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I'm relatively new here, so I just randomly picked this thread to ask:

Does MR ever lock threads that are endlessly pointless bickering, retreading the same flamewar troll-bait points over and over again?

Just, you know, wondering.

All the time, but this is the original bendgate thread and we're usually directed to post in this thread.
 
But not permanently at 23 pounds, I highly doubt it only takes 23 pounds of pressure for permanent deformation that is just silly

And no not entirely, the phone in your pocket the pressure gets spread out more to the contours of your thigh, the pressure is more so spread across the device,

Like I said, I'd like to see you pull the phone out of your front jeans pocket while seated without creating a fulcrum with the pressure just below the volume controls. Like you would do if you were say buckled into the seat of a car or airplane.

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do not put a huge a$$ phone in your pocket and sit down. end of issue worldwide!!!

A hand held cell phone that can't safely be carried in the front pocket is defective by design.
 
I'm relatively new here, so I just randomly picked this thread to ask:

Does MR ever lock threads that are endlessly pointless bickering, retreading the same flamewar troll-bait points over and over again?

Just, you know, wondering.

Excessive thread locking and post deletion and banning has destroyed countless formerly great forums - deleting spam is one thing but vibrant forums that stay vibrant are typically the least moderated. MR was flirting with overmoderating a few months ago (after putting up deliberately trollish articles) but it seems the mods got a clue and have backed off. It's simple really, if you don't like the thread, don't click on it!
 
Like I said, I'd like to see you pull the phone out of your front jeans pocket while seated without creating a fulcrum with the pressure just below the volume controls. Like you would do if you were say buckled into the seat of a car or airplane.

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A hand held cell phone that can't safely be carried in the front pocket is defective by design.

Who said it cant be safely carried in front pocket lol? I been usin it in my front pocket for weeks now and It seems to be doing okay, I also dont wear tight jeans, all I really have to do to get my phone out my pocket smoothly is just lean back a little while sitting and pull it straight out my pocket, why are you making it seem sound so scientific lol, i dont know which way your thinking but people dont pull their phone out their pocket when they are sitting forwardly usually, espcially such a big phone as the Plus, I move my upper body backwards a bit and I just pull the phone out my pocket easily, and I also dont let the phone hang at the edges of my pocket, or on the edges of my thigh, I push the phone torwards my groin area in my jean pocket for less pressure on my device

Anyone who sits on their device in their back pocket deserves to have whatever happens to their device, don't you know not to press on LCD panels because youll get that weird distortion effect and also potentially damage the LCD display?? Lol.....i Happen to weigh 215 pounds, If i ever sat on my phone id probably destroy it with my weight lol
 
..particularly if the proposed mechanism of bending is related to your bodyweight - that's a lot of kilograms of force.
 
Who said it cant be safely carried in front pocket lol? I been usin it in my front pocket for weeks now and It seems to be doing okay, I also dont wear tight jeans, all I really have to do to get my phone out my pocket smoothly is just lean back a little while sitting and pull it straight out my pocket, why are you making it seem sound so scientific lol, i dont know which way your thinking but people dont pull their phone out their pocket when they are sitting forwardly usually, espcially such a big phone as the Plus, I move my upper body backwards a bit and I just pull the phone out my pocket easily, and I also dont let the phone hang at the edges of my pocket, or on the edges of my thigh, I push the phone torwards my groin area in my jean pocket for less pressure on my device

Anyone who sits on their device in their back pocket deserves to have whatever happens to their device, don't you know not to press on LCD panels because youll get that weird distortion effect and also potentially damage the LCD display?? Lol.....i Happen to weigh 215 pounds, If i ever sat on my phone id probably destroy it with my weight lol

Sorry. I didn't realize that fulcrum was such a big word. :roll eyes:

Oh well, when your phone bends I hope you're big enough to come admit you were wrong (although I don't expect you will.)
 
Aluminum is not the problem. Some great high end mountain bike frames are made of aluminum and don't bend...unless of course you slam into a tree.

no other phones don't bend at 23 lb of force, and the question is. why is Apple using aluminum (a metal so known for its malleability) used to create such a thin device?
 
Sorry. I didn't realize that fulcrum was such a big word. :roll eyes:

Oh well, when your phone bends I hope you're big enough to come admit you were wrong (although I don't expect you will.)

Have owned the 6 since launch and was perfectly fine, and then recently had swapped it for a Plus about a week ago and it is perfect aswell, Dont think itll occur, regardless I have Applecare+ so
 
Aluminum is not the problem. Some great high end mountain bike frames are made of aluminum and don't bend...unless of course you slam into a tree.

New Ford trucks are made with Aluminum as well. But surely the density of the aluminum has something to do with the durability. But Apple doesn't like thick.
 
New Ford trucks are made with Aluminum as well. But surely the density of the aluminum has something to do with the durability. But Apple doesn't like thick.

Obviously thickness and grade of aluminum are factors as well as the design of the shell itself, but the even bigger element which most people seem to ignore is the reinforced frame inside the phone that provides the actual rigidity. It isn't just an aluminum shell.
 
I agree, but the point is that it is not the fact that they are using aluminum, it's the design specs. A few extra microns would hardly be noticeable in thickness but would have prevented this entire mess. What I'm saying is there is no need to go to plastic/polymer etc. like some folks keep implying.

New Ford trucks are made with Aluminum as well. But surely the density of the aluminum has something to do with the durability. But Apple doesn't like thick.
 
I agree, but the point is that it is not the fact that they are using aluminum, it's the design specs. A few extra microns would hardly be noticeable in thickness but would have prevented this entire mess. What I'm saying is there is no need to go to plastic/polymer etc. like some folks keep implying.

Except that 1) it's debatable whether there's a "mess" to be avoided in the first place and 2) you can't really say whether another micron or two of thickness would have made a difference or not unless you're on Apple's engineering team. The fact that you're posting here more or less precludes that possibility.
 
Well debatable only by a few. Based on what I've seen in my experience and around the web, IMO opinion there is an issue. If there weren't it's not likely we'd be discussing it now.

As far as my statement, don't take 1-2 micron so literally. I think you know what I meant which is if the case was slightly thicker, it would be stronger. There is no need to move away from aluminum to prevent bending. As I said, high end mountain bikes which take an infinitely larger amount of stress and abuse have extremely light and thin frames, relatively speaking. It is certainly possible to make a thin aluminum phone which will not bend during everyday use in life.

Except that 1) it's debatable whether there's a "mess" to be avoided in the first place and 2) you can't really say whether another micron or two of thickness would have made a difference or not unless you're on Apple's engineering team. The fact that you're posting here more or less precludes that possibility.
 
Well debatable only by a few.

Sure. The few who have either gotten a bent phone out of the box, have somehow bent their own phones or otherwise want there to be an issue here for whatever reason. Meanwhile tens of millions of others have no issue whatsoever. So...

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I don't think those are reinforcements. Even the ifixit video says they are connections for components:
http://youtu.be/65yYqoX_1As?t=4m39s

Fair enough.
 
Sure. The few who have either gotten a bent phone out of the box, have somehow bent their own phones or otherwise want there to be an issue here for whatever reason. Meanwhile tens of millions of others have no issue whatsoever. So...

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Fair enough.

it's also about reputation as well. Apple Map isn't horrible to 99% of the people (it personally got me lost twice and one time it brought me so far off the map, it had no signal), but it will forever been known as inferior due to its rocky launch.

Is iPhone 6+ the same? No idea, but in my group of friends, everyone is always asking me to check if my phone is bent or not. so the stigma is out there (at least in my group of friends)
 
it's also about reputation as well. Apple Map isn't horrible to 99% of the people (it personally got me lost twice and one time it brought me so far off the map, it had no signal), but it will forever been known as inferior due to its rocky launch.

Is iPhone 6+ the same? No idea, but in my group of friends, everyone is always asking me to check if my phone is bent or not. so the stigma is out there (at least in my group of friends)

Maybe you need better friends. No one has ever asked me about bending and I have a lot of friends. And Maps is a completely different situation. It was (and continues to be) demonstrably inferior to other mapping services on EVERYONE'S phone.
 
You don't see it? It's right there. Several sets of reinforcements tied together by a series of set screws into a frame that runs the length of the phone. The image shows it quite clearly.

Those provide no(or close to no) structural support, a structural frame would be a solid piece spanning the length of a device like a spar in an airplanes wing. I would say the parts that are providing support would be the frame, display, and logic board. I have heard there is some sort of other reinforcing part, but I don't think it can be seen in those photos.
 
A hand held cell phone that can't safely be carried in the front pocket is defective by design.

So when a 9" Galaxy S9 comes out, its supposed to fit in a front pocket!?!?!?

The phone is too big for the front pocket. The issue is the phones are getting too big to be able to be pocketed. the 6 doesnt bend, just the 6 plus. the only design difference is the screen size.
 
I'm reading these posts too much! I had a dream last night that my phone bent. I tried to bend it back and it just got worse. Maybe I should stay away from the forum for a while :)
 
I'm reading these posts too much! I had a dream last night that my phone bent. I tried to bend it back and it just got worse. Maybe I should stay away from the forum for a while :)

I had a bend dream last night too. I was setting up a TV and I was squatting down for only a couple of minutes. I took out my iPhone 6 and it was curved! Apple replaced it though.
 
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