iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[fermat-au]

Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter in the box surprises me some what. It almost feels like an admission from Apple that removing the headphone jack was a mistake. They expect a majority of buys to need them. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall of the internal discussions inside Apple when the desion was made to include them.

 

[LordQ]

- Improved IPX7 water resistance matching that of the original Apple Watch and making the device suitable for splashes, showering, and even brief dips in water up to one meter deep.

Gonna be a lot of water getting wasted if people can text and Facebook in the shower

Snapchat will get flooded with shower nudes.

 

[rGiskard]

I guess I'm the only one stoked about the Plus's camera w/LinX technology. Kind of funny how it may represent the greatest advance in camera tech in the history of the iPhone yet the buzz here is over new colors.
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Snapchat will get flooded with shower nudes.

It's already flooded with shower nudes.

 

[Soni Sanjay]

Oh yeah. You're so right. So much to apologize for:
New Apple A10 chip
Storage capacities of 32 GB, 128 GB, and 256 GB
Five color options
IPX7 water resistance
Next Gen Audio jack
Earpiece receiver to become a speaker
3D-Touch click-less home button
Dual-lens rear camera on the iPhone 7 Plus
Upgraded rear camera flash
Possible upgraded proximity sensor
FeliCa NFC support

I mean; right??
The only things they left off were:
Scratchable screen.
Slow as s**t.
Exploding battery.

Case in point ^^
You are exactly what I am describing. Sad.

 

[Tompkinson]

What a poor excuse to get rid of that audio jack

I doubt it is an excuse, I doubt they need an excuse.
Rather I presume it is pointing the way towards a wireless future.
A device with no ports and no cables.
Which sounds like a good idea to me.
I recall having to plug so many things into computers in earlier times.
Printers, scanners, cameras, backup disks, ethernet cables, loudspeakers, headphones, microphones,
For me: Good riddance to those days.

 

[D.T.]

It's already flooded with shower nudes.

You're welcome.

 

[citysnaps]

No bezel would actually be great. The iPhones are too big for the screen size they have, IMO. Also, it'd be nice if they could design a case that doesn't feel like a slippery piece of soap in your hands. You know, a little less "form over function".
You're welcome.

I like the bezels the way they are. Without them my fingers as they curl around the sides would obstruct what's on the display. No thanks...

For many I suspect the no bezels mantra is all about having something that looks different and cool. I'd rather have a display that's more readable than content going to the edge and being obscured.

Might not be a problem if you have very small hands.

 

[Tompkinson]

I can just see the phone dropped when a big adapter is plugged into it messing things up. That's all I'm saying.

A Y-cable is hardly a "big adapter"?

 

[littyboy]

Piano Black = Fingerprintgate.

Not really sure why people want this glossy black. It'll just make you look like you have greasy hands (although we all do).

 

[sofila]

Oh let's just take that list shall we:

1) Laptops -- have BT radios

2) Automobiles -- new ones have BT radios, old ones can be retrofitted with inexpensive BT dongles

3) Desktops -- have BT radios

4) Music Players -- iPod Touch & Nano have had BT radios. Wouldn't be surprised to see the shuffle get an upgrade too, once they make room by removing the 3.5mm headphone jack. Who uses anything else? And why should Apple care if they do?

5) Stereos -- most modern receivers have had BT for several years now, some even have wifi. See #2 Automobile above for older stereos.

6) Mobile Phones -- have BT radios

7) Tablets -- have BT radios

8) In-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines -- well there you got me. Looks like you'll have to pack a pair of wired headphones along with the dozen other things you'll need for your digital equipment on that trip -- or just use the cheap pair the airlines give you for free. If you insist on using your wireless BT headphones, I refer you to #2, Automobile above for the most convenient method that doesn't require you to unplug your headphones in order to let the window seat passenger out to go to the bathroom. However, I would encourage anyone buying a BT headphone to get one with a detachable cable for use with 3.5mm jacks when the battery runs out.

You won't enjoy your hands-free time simply because you won't have any left, spending your life pairing your BT prosthesis with all of the above.
Anyway I was just trying to support Calzon65 post vs. Mansu944 answer, see the quotes links

 

[Tompkinson]

I can just see the phone dropped when a big adapter is plugged into it messing things up. That's all I'm saying.

A Y-cable is hardly a "big adapter"?

 

[rGiskard]

Oh let's just take that list shall we:

1) Laptops -- have BT radios

2) Automobiles -- new ones have BT radios, old ones can be retrofitted with inexpensive BT dongles

3) Desktops -- have BT radios

4) Music Players -- iPod Touch & Nano have had BT radios. Wouldn't be surprised to see the shuffle get an upgrade too, once they make room by removing the 3.5mm headphone jack. Who uses anything else? And why should Apple care if they do?

5) Stereos -- most modern receivers have had BT for several years now, some even have wifi. See #2 Automobile above for older stereos.

6) Mobile Phones -- have BT radios

7) Tablets -- have BT radios

8) In-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines -- well there you got me. Looks like you'll have to pack a pair of wired headphones along with the dozen other things you'll need for your digital equipment on that trip, which you're probably doing anyway because that's the only place you use your noise canceling headphones -- or just use the cheap pair the airlines give you for free. If you insist on using your wireless BT headphones, I refer you to #2, Automobile above for the most convenient method that doesn't require you to unplug your headphones in order to let the window seat passenger out to go to the bathroom. However, I would encourage anyone buying a BT headphone to get one with a detachable cable for use with 3.5mm jacks when the battery runs out.

Heh, even the most expensive BT headphone will sound like crap compared to a wired headphone of comparable quality. The simple problem is that BT's bandwidth is insufficient for HQ audio. There is nothing to be done about it short of revising BT tech.

Now BT may be fine for you, I get that, but a 3.5mm audio jack doesn't prevent you from using BT for audio. So why do you care if someone else wants the option to use the standard connector for high quality audio?

 

[DakotaGuy]

I doubt it is an excuse, I doubt they need an excuse.
Rather I presume it is pointing the way towards a wireless future.
A device with no ports and no cables.
Which sounds like a good idea to me.
I recall having to plug so many things into computers in earlier times.
Printers, scanners, cameras, backup disks, ethernet cables, loudspeakers, headphones, microphones,
For me: Good riddance to those days.

Yet I can promise Apple still won't have wireless charging.

 

[deany]

I need to upgrade my phone every year to keep the phone running smoothly. Back when phones had proprietary software


iPhones are the things I used to day dream of when I was 5 years old. When I watched movies like Back to the Future 2 I wanted things to be like they are today. And now they are. My first iPhone was the 5s and that had better specs than the computer we had at the time. It was an old BUDGET custom built from 6 years before. Single core, 32-bit, 2 gigs of ram, 32 gig hard drive. Then I was carrying around a computer in my pocket that had a dual core chip, it had a billion transistors, it could take 10 pictures a second. It was a dream come true.

But because it looked like the iPhone 5, people complained. They complain every year that the phones aren't innovative but they think innovation means something different. But if Apple made a round iPhone those same people would freak out. And what's going to happen next year? We're going to get a edge-to-edge phone screen. Something we've seen in concept videos for years, but people will just complain that they're ripping off Samsung.

People are never satisfied, you're right.

great post.

 

[Mac 128]

I think the "AirBuds" will have a male lightning jack to plug into iPhone -
"AirBuds" charged off iPhone 0-100 in about 30 minutes.
So very very fast.

I'm agreeing, but there still has to be a way for that cable to attach to the AirBuds. I'm saying magnetic induction, which also allows them to be used while they're charging. The same cable can be used as a "safety" harness for those who are afraid they might fall out during vigorous activity like running on the treadmill.

A Y-cable is hardly a "big adapter"?

It doesn't even need to be that. It doesn't even need to be an adapter. Something like a Lightning passthrough built into the Lightning charging cable they already include in the box.

Something like I posted in this link:

iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

 

[calzon65]

Heh, even the most expensive BT headphone will sound like crap compared to a wired headphone of comparable quality. The simple problem is that BT's bandwidth is insufficient for HQ audio. There is nothing to be done about it short of revising BT tech.

Now BT may be fine for you, I get that, but a 3.5mm audio jack doesn't prevent you from using BT for audio. So why do you care if someone else wants the option to use the standard connector for high quality audio?

Agreed.

For those who want to use BT, the iPhone supports that, for those who want a higher quality connection, we have 3.5mm, and for those who want to use a Lightning connected headset, iPhone can support that too. I have BT headphones but don't use them often because it's just another things to charge, but my primary observation/problem is that the battery on my iPhone seems to drain faster if BT is connected and active, so I prefer wired headphones/earbuds.

 

[Tompkinson]

I was being perhaps hyperbolic, but to whit: here is my dream set of cans http://www.gradolabs.com/headphones/professional-series/item/23-ps1000e
About $1700... and to steal a quote "they don't have FEW peers, they have NONE". A large investment, yes. But completely worth it, in my eyes (or... to my ears I suppose. Lol). When people are serious about audio; they may have a dedicated "listening room" in their home... they may have, when they 1st bought the house, had an audio engineer come out and place speakers, etc.
This may seem like a grand expense, but it only would be borne ONCE. Audio equipment & standards are such that that is true. They are NOT similar to consumer electronics specifications.... they don't rapidly change. That is what that industry is built on & centers around. Now, I applaud and embrace ALL tech advances! I can't wait to use my fancy (skinny!!!! waterproof!!!) iPhone 7; I don't mind at all that it doesn't have an audio jack, and I certainly DO believe all the copycats will follow suit.
What I don't believe and won't do- is stick my head in the sand & claim death knell for the 3.5" jack in NON consumer equipment... equipment that does NOT need to be thinner and lighter, equipment that does NOT need to be waterproof. It would be such an expensive and pointless and industry destroying move, it is literally unthinkable. I recognize there will be a slight fork, if you will, in audio equipment in the near future- in that consumer equipment will change connectors every three or four or five years, to the latest/thinnest/securest/power optimized option; while professional equipment will march along for the foreseeable future with their standard.
THERE IS NO ISSUE HERE!!! Nobody will be stepping on any one else's toes. Trust me.

I trust you implicitly and have no issue with your firm beliefs relating to pro-audio equipment and related plugs and sockets. And I am not asking you to stick your head in the sand and claim any death knells, for the 3,5mm jack or any other jack. (BTW: 3,5" would be a rather larger plug I think you'll find)
May you have lots of enjoyment of your fancy iphone7 AND your other equipment.
Have a good evening!

 

[citysnaps]

Oh yeah. You're so right. So much to apologize for:
New Apple A10 chip
Storage capacities of 32 GB, 128 GB, and 256 GB
Five color options
IPX7 water resistance
Next Gen Audio jack
Earpiece receiver to become a speaker
3D-Touch click-less home button
Dual-lens rear camera on the iPhone 7 Plus
Upgraded rear camera flash
Possible upgraded proximity sensor
FeliCa NFC support

I mean; right??
The only things they left off were:
Scratchable screen.
Slow as s**t.
Exploding battery.

And don't forget a substantially upgraded display using tech from the 9.7" iPad Pro display, which DisplayMate ranked at the top. And along with that Apple's True Tone feature.

With the enhanced display and dual cameras, along with being able to capture and process RAW files now that the APIs are available, as a photographer that by itself would be a huge reason for me to upgrade from my 6+.

 

[DakotaGuy]

So the pro is now you won't have a cable from your phone to your headphones, but the con is you have something else to charge. When the charge on the headphones run out your done until you plug them in again. Pack another charger for every trip...

 

[Tech198]

Seems we have whole 'something'-gate down solid.

 

[Rigby]

I like the bezels the way they are. Without them my fingers as they curl around the sides would obstruct what's on the display. No thanks...

Obviously the real issue are the huge top and bottom bezels.

For many I suspect the no bezels mantra is all about having something that looks different and cool. I'd rather have a display that's more readable than content going to the edge and being obscured.

Might not be a problem if you have very small hands.

Oh my.

 

[Tompkinson]

I guess I'm the only one stoked about the Plus's camera w/LinX technology. Kind of funny how it may represent the greatest advance in camera tech in the history of the iPhone yet the buzz here is over new colors.

i agree and I too am looking forward to trying this.

 

[ysr]

Dark black, piano black, 256 GB and water resistance. Thank God I waited this long, just take my money already

 

[Tuci]

Dark black, piano black, 256 GB and water resistance. Thank God I waited this long, just take my money already

They had me at black.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Oh let's just take that list shall we:

1) Laptops -- have BT radios

2) Automobiles -- new ones have BT radios, old ones can be retrofitted with inexpensive BT dongles

3) Desktops -- have BT radios

4) Music Players -- iPod Touch & Nano have had BT radios. Wouldn't be surprised to see the shuffle get an upgrade too, once they make room by removing the 3.5mm headphone jack. Who uses anything else? And why should Apple care if they do?

5) Stereos -- most modern receivers have had BT for several years now, some even have wifi. See #2 Automobile above for older stereos.

6) Mobile Phones -- have BT radios

7) Tablets -- have BT radios

8) In-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines -- well there you got me. Looks like you'll have to pack a pair of wired headphones along with the dozen other things you'll need for your digital equipment on that trip, which you're probably doing anyway because that's the only place you use your noise canceling headphones -- or just use the cheap pair the airlines give you for free. If you insist on using your wireless BT headphones, I refer you to #2, Automobile above for the most convenient method that doesn't require you to unplug your headphones in order to let the window seat passenger out to go to the bathroom. However, I would encourage anyone buying a a pair of BT headphones to get one with a detachable cable for use with 3.5mm jacks when the battery runs out. In the future it will likely be hard to find a BT headphone without a detachable cable.

Wow Mac128, you work so very hard to tow the company line. Every post I read of yours perfectly aligns with whatever Apple sells or you think Apple is going to roll out. Basically the message is always consistent: telling whoever to which you are replying to adapt to make whatever Apple is doing work for them. Resistance is futile?

To the above, I completely agree with you. Spend lots of money and anything Apple wishes to deprecate or do can be made to work. For music fans, why not just deprecate the whole phone and pay to have the bands you like follow you around and play your favored music live when you want to hear something? Then we don't need dongles or multiple wires with different terminators or even any concerns about recharging batteries.

Certainly, those that want to replicate their own 3.5mm ubiquity needs in a way to make Apple's decision work just as well for them can spend a bunch of money to do that. OR- and here's where we will certainly differ- Apple could have just left the jack in there for these people so Apple's customers wouldn't have to deal with buying a new car, new music players, new modern receivers and maybe a private jet outfitted with Bluetooth and/or Lightning to make Apple's decision work as well for them.

I have to believe you work for Apple, as you are always so aligned with whatever Apple wants to sell. And those "thinking different" than what Apple wants to sell are consistently judged wrong by you for doing so. However, you are quick to have the solution for them to get with the (Apple's) program: spend more money or quit caring about ubiquitous "just works" and embrace "the future" even if that will be a hassle for some... probably for years to come. Apparently, it's no hassle for you now, so it won't be for anyone else either? Resistance is futile.

I'm not knocking your opinions. I'm glad Apple always gets is perfectly right for your own uses. Too bad we are not all you. I'm sure Apple would be thrilled if we were.