iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

[The Game 161]

amazing to see some of the reactions in here so different to what we have seen for months lol

i know plenty here won't upgrade but many won't be able not to. me included

 

[MrX8503]

I don't think the A10 will be as fast as specified in the article.

The iPhone 6's A8 was barely any faster than the iPhone 5s's A7, as the clock rate only differed by 100 MHz. Apple itself even said the performance difference was pretty minimal (20-30%).

I'm looking at patterns here, which Apple tends to follow sometimes, so my hypothesis is that the A10 will be around as fast as the A9, only with a minor performance improvement in both CPU and GPU.

No, I'm not from the future and I may be wrong, but this is what I'm feeling.

iPhone 4s to iPhone 5 => 2x faster

iPhone 5 to iPhone 5s => 2x faster

iPhone 5s to iPhone 6 => ~1.30x faster

iPhone 6 to iPhone 6s => ~1.70x faster (2x as fast as iPhone 5s)

iPhone 6s to iPhone 7 => (~1.30x faster)?

iPhone 7 to iPhone 7s => (~1.70x faster)? (2x as fast as iPhone 6s)?

20-30% is huge

 

[kemal]

Piano black..... That would be polishing the entire case before black anodizing. I say $25 more for that finish.

 

[cult hero]

I cracked it. They remove 3.5 mm jack just to add it back in 2017 year iPhone and boost sales.

Tim on stage: By popular demand...

It's dead Jim.

Analog is going bye-bye and it's not just Apple.

Old ports and connectors get deprecated as the industry evolves and advances.

 

[tgwaste]

So they changed the color of the most popular phone. Great. Now you're going to be able to see every tiny scratch just like you did on the iPhone 5.

Probably another Tim Cook decision.

 

[Tompkinson]

Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter in the box surprises me some what. It almost feels like an admission from Apple that removing the headphone jack was a mistake. They expect a majority of buys to need them. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall of the internal discussions inside Apple when the desion was made to include them.

Making and including the adapter might be:
a- admitting a mistake
b- accompanying transition from wired to wireless.

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

I'm in favor of much more duller improvements, like better battery capacity and management.
I'm tired of using my camera and my phone dying before th end of the day. I can only assume it's draining the battery even when I'm not using the camera because I've not quit the app?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Mac 128]

You won't enjoy your hands-free time simply because you won't have any left, spending your life pairing your BT prosthesis with all of the above.
Anyway I was just trying to support Calzon65 post vs. Mansu944 answer, see the quotes links

Well I kind of debunked Calzon65's post with respect to BT, now didn't I?

As for pairing my headphones to all those devices ... that's not really the point. And I fully expect that if Apple is removing the headphone jack that pairing is going to be incredibly simple. It already it. When I rent I car, I typically pair my iPhone on a completely unknown automobile within 30 seconds, while I'm adjusting the mirrors. That's a lot faster than what I used to have to do -- scanning the radio for local channels I actually wanted to listen to.

Do I really need to go through that list all over again and explain how negligible pairing my headphones to them is, even with current inefficient technology?

Heh, even the most expensive BT headphone will sound like crap compared to a wired headphone of comparable quality. The simple problem is that BT's bandwidth is insufficient for HQ audio. There is nothing to be done about it short of revising BT tech.

Now BT may be fine for you, I get that, but a 3.5mm audio jack doesn't prevent you from using BT for audio. So why do you care if someone else wants the option to use the standard connector for high quality audio?

That's today. And there's aptX which iOS doesn't use, which I would argue does hold up to comparable wired headphones for many. But who knows what Apple is introducing, I'm expecting some pretty impressive advances in wireless audio. And as you pointed out, that's not really an issue for many people, and I'd suggest the majority of people.

And where did I state that I cared whether they removed the 3.5mm jack or not in my post? Personally, I would prefer they not remove it. However, I can imagine several reasons for doing it, good and bad. And I have clearly stated in numerous posts that if they remove the headphone jack only to add a second speaker as rumored, that I consider that a horrible reason. It's funny, though; every time I support the removal of the headphone jack for potential gains, I'm attacked. When I support keeping the headphone jack rather than adding what I consider a mostly useless second speaker, I'm attacked. This place is nuts.

 

[Tompkinson]

What u mean by visited countless studios..

It's one of many possible ways of saying: visited too many studios to count, visited a multitude of studios, been in very many places that describe themselves as a studio, visited studios and lost count of how many studios were visited.

Hope that helps?

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

It's dead Jim.

That was a full-on LOL for me. Thank you.

Analog is going bye-bye and it's not just Apple.

To further the Trekkie connection though, unless you are Mr. Data, your ears can only hear analog. It cannot go bye-bye until maybe we are assimilated (Borg).

FYI: this whole argument is not about analog vs. digital.

 

[Tompkinson]

I'm in favor of much more duller improvements, like better battery capacity and management.
I'm tired of using my camera and my phone dying before th end of the day. I can only assume it's draining the battery even when I'm not using the camera because I've not quit the app?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

There are many tutorial type sites on the net to work out what is actually using up your battery faster than expected. I'd suggest searching through these checklists. I use my phone a lot, rarely have less than 30% battery by day's end.

 

[DakotaGuy]

I like the bezels the way they are. Without them my fingers as they curl around the sides would obstruct what's on the display. No thanks...

For many I suspect the no bezels mantra is all about having something that looks different and cool. I'd rather have a display that's more readable than content going to the edge and being obscured.

Might not be a problem if you have very small hands.

I have a Note 7 and the bezel-less sides are not an issue at all. Don't worry the next iPhone will gain a curved screen as well and you'll be fine with it. If not just throw a case on it.

 

[Mac 128]

So the pro is now you won't have a cable from your phone to your headphones, but the con is you have something else to charge. When the charge on the headphones run out your done until you plug them in again. Pack another charger for every trip...

Why another charger? The Lightning charger you're already carrying for your iPhone will work fine, not to mention Apple may allow charging from the iPhone. What I do know, is that anyone buying a pair of BT headphones to use with Apple's new audio technology, should buy one with a detachable cable so the headphones can be used when the power does run out completely. In fact, it might even be the same cable you use to charge your iPhone, depending on the headphone maker, so you won't even need another cable.

As for the pros and cons, yes, I'd rather not plug and unplug my headphones a dozen times a day, wrap and untangle the cable a dozen times a day, or go without listening during a short period because it's too much of hassle to get them out and put them away. Simply plugging them in once a day along with my other gear is all the "inconvenience" I need. To say nothing of not having to manage cables, or getting them caught on something, while I'm using them.

 

[deany]

I'm agreeing, but there still has to be a way for that cable to attach to the AirBuds. I'm saying magnetic induction, which also allows them to be used while they're charging. The same cable can be used as a "safety" harness for those who are afraid they might fall out during vigorous activity like running on the treadmill.



It doesn't even need to be that. It doesn't even need to be an adapter. Something like a Lightning passthrough built into the Lightning charging cable they already include in the box.

Something like I posted in this link:

iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

Totally agree, I remember in amazement a few years back apple saying they were not interested in electromagnetic induction - this really surprised me at the
time.
Now two three years on electromagnetic induction is 100% on apples radar and their future.
I think this maybe June 2017 though iPhone 10 as I like to call it! - so if Sept 2016 "AirBuds" are wireless and "apple pencil" fast charge I feel apple will include a female port for lightning charging the "AirBuds" as
well as a male port for iPhone charginging.
Cheers

 

[Tompkinson]

Yet I can promise Apple still won't have wireless charging.

I think we can promise that they will have wireless charging.
At some point in the future, might take a few years.
And to be honest: it is the one wire-situation i am not too averse to.
Would rather just carry a plug and cable than some mat or device.
But I am sure they are working on it as we speak.

 

[CEmajr]

It actually looks like an impressive update from the list. I'm too content with my 6S Plus to upgrade this time around though.

 

[TurboPGT!]

I have a Note 7 and the bezel-less sides are not an issue at all. Don't worry the next iPhone will gain a curved screen as well and you'll be fine with it. If not just throw a case on it.

Nope, the iPhone has had a curved glass for 3 years...unfortunately for Samsung they read the rumors wrong and thought that meant curved display, so they made awkward worthless gimmick phones with curved displays because they thought thats what Apple was doing. When that turned out to be wrong, they were stuck with yet another gimmick with no purpose that they cant back down from.

 

[Mac 128]

I think we can promise that they will have wireless charging.
At some point in the future, might take a few years.
And to be honest: it is the one wire-situation i am not too averse to.
Would rather just carry a plug and cable than some mat or device.
But I am sure they are working on it as we speak.

I would actually be thrilled with a Smart Connector dock, or charging mat for some situations -- my car chief among them. I'm down to plugging in just one cable now, but I'd love to be able to throw my phone into its mount and not have to worry about aligning it correctly, or rummage around for a cable.

For travel it would be much less practical. I use docks at home and office, and a mat would actually be much more convenient, especially at 3AM when I'm trying to line up my iPhone on its Lightning dock after grabbing it to see who butt-dialed me!

That said, I agree that Apple is working on a way to implement truly wireless charging, which is still going to require charging stations that radiate the signal (I suspect). And when that happens, the chief complaint about BT headphones will disappear as they will no longer be "just one more thing to charge". Then again, no one will have to remember to charge anything.

 

[skinned66]

I only count two colours - gold and rose gold. More colour options would be nice.

Don't get me wrong, I think that non-glossy black looks great and so does the glossy before it gets finger prints all over it. With the current colour lineup I'd go with the former hands-down.

 

[daijholt]

What makes you think analogue output is inferior to digital? I'll tell you a secret: Your ears are analogue. Something, somewhere _must_ convert the digital signal to analogue. That converter needs power. The easiest way to get a high quality digital / analog converter is to build it into the phone, where you have a strong power supply, and tons of electronics designed by people who know how to put high quality components into the smallest possible space.

And since 99.9999% of existing earphones and headphones don't have a built-in digital / analog converter, the iPhone still needs to have one.

Fair enough. But whatever the argument, the minute the iphone is shown on the big screen with no headphone jack, the 3.5mm port is dead in the water. And so it shall be.

 

[Tompkinson]

I would actually be thrilled with a Smart Connector dock, or charging mat for some situations -- my car chief among them. I'm down to plugging in just one cable now, but I'd love to be able to throw my phone into its mount and not have to worry about aligning it correctly, or rummage around for a cable.

For travel it would be much less practical. I use docks at home and office, and a mat would actually be much more convenient, especially at 3AM when I'm trying to line up my iPhone on its Lightning dock after grabbing it to see who butt-dialed me!

That said, I agree that Apple is working on a way to implement truly wireless charging, which is still going to require charging stations that radiate the signal (I suspect). And when that happens, the chief complaint about BT headphones will disappear as they will no longer be "just one more thing to charge". Then again, no one will have to remember to charge anything.

Yes, not so practical for me. but glad it would work well for you.

 

[skinned66]

It actually looks like an impressive update from the list. I'm too content with my 6S Plus to upgrade this time around though.

I'm with you, not enough for me either.
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But whatever the argument, the minute the iphone is shown on the big screen with no headphone jack, the 3.5mm port is dead in the water. And so it shall be.

True, I am not a fan of the decision but it's looking pretty much like it's a fact now so everybody's just going to have to live it. Time to get started.

 

[Tompkinson]

I only count two colours - gold and rose gold. More colour options would be nice.

Don't get me wrong, I think that non-glossy black looks great and so does the glossy before it gets finger prints all over it.

What is your issue with fingerprints?
Phone still works fine, doesn't it?

 

[skinned66]

What is your issue with fingerprints?
Phone still works fine, doesn't it?

So does a toilet seat with piss on it but I'm not the type to take a seat anyway.

 

[tgwaste]

Why another charger? The Lightning charger you're already carrying for your iPhone will work fine, not to mention Apple may allow charging from the iPhone. .

I sure hope not. I want apple to copy samsung's iconX buds and have a rechargeable case. No more cables!