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When computer manufactures abandoned the floppy (yes Apple was a visionary), there was a new standard the manufactures all embraced, we got the CD then the DVD. Consumers had a "new option", but this time there is no new standard. There is Apple's Lighting standard and everyone else.

Trending technology changes are hard to predict but I think if Samsung and the other major Android phone manufacturers (Lenovo, LG, Xiaomi, ZTE, Huawei, Yulong, Alcatel, and Vivo) continue to support 3.5mm, there is a chance Apple's move to abandon 3.5mm could backfire. I doubt Hauwei, ZTE, Samsung, Xiaomi, or any other major Android phone manufacture will ever adopt Lighting. Keep in mind, the Android manufactures built/sold about 280 million phones last year (Samsung alone built/sold over 80 million), Apple built/sold about 60 million. Apple is innovative and sometimes others follow, but Lighting is Apple's proprietary standard and I think the Android manufactures will not follow.

Sadly for consumers, I think the mobile device market will be divided into two camps with two competing audio connection standards. We will see the IOS camp embracing Lighting and the Android camp embracing 3.5mm or some other standard that is not Lighting. It will be like MacOS and Windows, two different standards, two very different camps, and a vicious emotional battle between the two camps.
There's also a saying-necessity is the mother of all invention.

When iOS blocked flash, there wasn't a ready alternative available. HTML 5 was still in its infancy, and the App Store didn't yet exist. But there was a desire to reach out to this consumers using iOS devices, and so developers changed the way they present their media. Native apps were created, and they offered a better user experience because they were optimised for touch and direct input. HTML5 begin to replace flash. And in a worst case scenario, you had third party browsers which could load flash.

What I see Apple doing is showing the way with their own Apple-branded Bluetooth headphones. They may also open up the technology to other manufacturers. We will see more Bluetooth headphones being offered in the market, all these options will help to push prices down and quality up, and all this would not be possible if consumers didn't have a compelling reason to move away from wired headphones.

Sometimes, you cannot have a new world order without first doing away with the current one.
 
Nobody is talking about the charger. It's going to have a USB-C connector and new design
 
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Ming-Kuo Needs to give it a rest? He apparently has inside connections with manufacturers and suppliers. He is fairly accurate, not perfect, but He is a regular source for Macrumors and other various sites.

And for those who make the cheap, shoddy Apple comments are hating for their own personal reasons. That can't be controlled one way or the other.
Seems like you are having tough time controlling the negatives on this forum but i gonna tell you this as long as apple will keep disappointing their loyal customers it's gonna rise
 
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Yeah, but none of that is copying Samsung. Samsung didn't invent any of that, and the Apple Watch already has contact charging. Hell, my toothbrush had that 15 years ago, so that's nothing new on the market.

Neither did Apple invent most things. It didn't stop Apple fanboys of saying Samsung copied Apple.
 
"it'll have stereo sound in landscape mode"

how is this happening if the speakers are on one side of the device when held landscape?

Ummmmm.....
Well, it would not have stereo in landscape if the speakers were on the same side.... however (from the article):
"Rather than putting a second speaker at the bottom in place of the headphone jack, Apple is said to be upgrading the earpiece receiver at the top of the device to become a full speaker. The change would provide enough separation to allow for stereo sound when the device is held in landscape orientation".

Always best to read the article you're commenting on! =P
 
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You serious? The Lightning port is the most durable port I've ever seen.

You mustn't have seen many ports. Over time the constant pressure in all directions wiggling the lighting connector as you walk is going to affect the fit. It has happened to me and a few people I know just from using the phone while it is charging.

I think the lighting port is far better than micro-USB bit it is far from durable. Headphones will destroy it.
 
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Based on reviews I've read of lightening headphones, the benefit of lightening headphones is the audio driver.

Due to cost and quality, most manufacturers use cheap audio drivers for the 3.5mm jack. However, lightening jacks are digital instead of analog and have the driver built into the headphones. This allows for premium headphones to perform significantly better through lightening vs 3.5mm jack. Apparently, the difference is pretty noticeable.

I get where you're coming from in regards to the universality of the 3.5mm jack. However, the 3.5mm jack is analog and we are in a digital age. It's due for an upgrade. Basically this will suck for 1-2 years while you upgrade stuff, but after that, it's fine.

I had tons of 30-pin cables and when they switched to lightening it sucked. But after 2 years I had cables a plenty. If they have an adaptor and upgrade laptops to accept lightening headphones, it'll all be ok within a few years.

People bitch, but it all works out in time.

Unless you have something other than regular ears, everything you hear is analog. Guitars used in studios are analog. What you said makes no sense at all and shows a total and complete ignorance in this topic.
 
Seems like you are having tough time controlling the negatives on this forum but i gonna tell you this as long as apple will keep disappointing their loyal customers it's gonna rise

Negatives are everywhere Sunny. I call a spade a spade when I see it. Especially if someone is blatantly misquoted or wrong.

And not every Apple loyalist is disappointed. I consider myself positive and looking forward to Apple's iPhone 7. It all depends on what you consider dissapointed.

No disrespect to you, but your one of the most negative Forum members bashing the iPhone 7 for months now. Any one reading your previous posts will see this. It's clear your angry at Apple, which is your prerogative, but even on this thread, your Apple bashing.
 
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Piano black sounds yummy. Hopefully it will be deep black, without some retarded swirls and lines.
 
In a couple of years this will all work quite smoothly I am sure. As with most stuff in tech: there is never a final perfect solution on sale, it's all in flow and transition, easier for some than for others, but that is how it is.
True. I hope in a couple years better listening options will be available, then I will revisit my phone choices and decide what makes sense. Personally I'm expecting the iPhone 7 to be the first Bluetooth 5 device, if so this should bring some needed improvements.
 
I will admit I was a basher of the iPhone 7 and was willing to switch to the note 7 but I'm sorry ;-) I'm staying with iPhone and Apple now. iPhone 7 does look great because I have iPhone 6 Plus.

It takes a real person to admit this. Good for you for being positive, without having to tear someone else down and admitting your thoughts.
 
It's funny, though; every time I support the removal of the headphone jack for potential gains, I'm attacked. When I support keeping the headphone jack rather than adding what I consider a mostly useless second speaker, I'm attacked. This place is nuts.


I'm just sayin', BT audio sucks. If someone wants wireless audio on an iPhone they must sacrifice audio quality. BT 5 will improve broadcasting bandwidth but I think that's aimed at advertising so stores can firehose spam your iPhone when you walk by.

Apple could introduce a proprietary compression format for BT audio, but I still don't see how that obviates the need for an audio jack. No wireless headphones match the audio quality of wired, not even when the transmitter is in the home and has no weight or power limitations. If Sennheiser can't do it on dedicated headphones then it's doubtful Apple will crack that nut for a device with severe limitations on size and power usage.
 
And because there was never a need to do so before.
And why is there a "need" now that didn't exist before?
Software can be refined or modified. After all, iOS was a derivative of OS X. I won't be surprised if the AirPlay protocol could be modified to get a more power efficient variant meant to work only with audio.

It may not even be AirPlay in any shape or form, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple took inspiration from there.
This doesn't make any sense. Airplay is based on a number of standard IETF protocols that are designed to run on top of IP (e.g. audio is streamed using RTP/RTSP). Bluetooth earbuds do not have IP stacks. What is there to take inspiration from that isn't already possible with Bluetooth profiles today? Airplay does not in any way address the problem of very high power efficiency like BT does, since it was not designed for that.
 
Well, this is the first article I've read that doesn't make the iPhone 7 seem like a total piece of junk. I'm still going to skip it though, at this time there just aren't enough decent (or rather, decently priced?) non-3.5mm headphones available.

Excellent point. The reason being is because Macrumors laid out ALL the positive upgrades internally and externally that has drawn everyone's focus off of the negativity surrounding the 3.5 Jack, camera bump and antenna lines. It's amazing what a little positivity can change the tune in a thread.

It's nice to read positive posts for once versus the typical hatred.
 
True. I hope in a couple years better listening options will be available, then I will revisit my phone choices and decide what makes sense. Personally I'm expecting the iPhone 7 to be the first Bluetooth 5 device, if so this should bring some needed improvements.

It will be 4.2. 5.0 requires a new Chip that will not be ready for volume shipping until early 2017. All the BlueTooth worshippers in here will need to wait for the Apple Phone in 2017. :apple:
 
I imagine Apple would come up with a new streaming protocol and roll it into AirPlay like they have with Bluetooth (you invoke it the same way as AirPlay).
Huh? "Invoking" Airplay is nothing like using Bluetooth A2DP. And Apple hasn't "rolled" any new streaming protocol into Bluetooth. They are simply using the existing standardized profiles.
Personally I'd prefer that they just use AptX but since they have yet to and that protocol has been around for quite a while I doubt they'll start now.
Why? The AAC that they are using is just as good.
 
I will admit I was a basher of the iPhone 7 and was willing to switch to the note 7 but I'm sorry ;-) I'm staying with iPhone and Apple now. iPhone 7 does look great because I have iPhone 6 Plus.

I don't think there have been many serious people with a 6, 6+ that were really going to wait until 2017. The 7 is a very nice upgrade for current 6 and 6+ users. If you use a 6s it's not so compelling, IMO. Although the A10 does appear to be a screamer. Personally, I was not expecting such a high clock speed. :apple:
 
Earpiece as a second speaker? Suddenly all of the dual-speaker rumors actually make sense.

On a related note, I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
 
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