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Dual lens camera seems to be the leat useful feature ever,it just screams gimmick..

Have you not read about the dual-cameras? It's not a gimmick. Much better low-light photos and the ability to zoom in without losing quality. Oh and the bokeh effect. Yep, that's a gimmick. Do your research.
 
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Lightning, which combines - let's be honest - unreliability of all those small digital connectors with a high price of accessories 'cause it is proprietary.
Thought you were going to be honest.
The only time I've seen unreliable Lightening connectors, they've been cheap third party versions.
 
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I'll take a <1k screen that works over the Samsung trash any time.

Personally I think the screens on iDevices are nicer than Samsungs, although at a lower resolution. Samsung devices look fake to me and cartoonish.

iPhones have a genuine feel to pictures on the screen. Not washed out with false coloration and saturation.
 
I think Apple's goal is not to improve audio quality. Their goal is to have a single multipurpose input and output port rather than separate ports for each purpose.

If you actually believe this, you should be in the group wishing the replacement for 3.5mm would be USB3 instead of Lightning. USB3 will fully cover the same base AND put far more "multi" in multipurpose utility. Lighting will have it's "multi" capped at a range of utility chosen by Apple.
 
Personally I think the screens on iDevices are nicer than Samsungs, although at a lower resolution. Samsung devices look fake to me and cartoonish.

iPhones have a genuine feel to pictures on the screen. Not washed out with false coloration and saturation.
You can alter the display to less saturated colours.
 
If you have an iPhone 6 or 6s there's not much to upgrade to, besides the new colors.

Unless Apple unveils an Apple Watch with LTE, I will keep my old watch as well.


When it comes MBP, I would definitely upgrade, and I only demand the chip architecture that's been around for a year, but that seems impossible to bring out.
 
Are both TOSLINK and 3.5mm primarily meant to transmit audio signals? If yes, I don't see how I'm wrong here. What I'm saying is the world (or at least Toshiba) did indeed dabbled with digital audio output. If not why would the 3.5mm jacks on MB double up as mini-TOSLINK? There are even portable DACs that accepts mini-TOSLINK input.

What you are saying is the equivalent of 'why do we need speaker cables when we have TOSLINK?' It makes no sense. Yes one carries a digital and the other an analogue signal, but they are at different points in the chain and for completely different purposes. You can't just get rid of the analogue part of the chain; it has to happen somewhere. Switching from 3.5mm to lightning doesn't change quality one bit. It just moves the 'somewhere.'
 
The reason why people think samsung or any oled display has a fake look to it is due to the contrast making things pop.

Try this out... restart your iphone or iPad and watch it when It boots up to a black screen (better to do this test in the dark to see how grey your blacks have been all these years). See that "black" it's actually grey due to the LCD not being able to reproduce a native black colour due to the backlighting tech.

Oled has come along a huge way in recent years and out of all the displays I've seen the latest in the Galaxy 7 series are by far the best.

True black with great colours. You can't beat an infinite contrast ratio as there is no backlight.

Now the only issue is the suB pixel arrangement using a white filter, but that is a limitation of the tech currently.

I guarantee you all when apple switches to oled the first responses will be "omg how gorgeous is that screen"

It's not something an LCD can do.
 
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Depending on availability between the piano black and matte black, surely the latter would be much better as you wouldn't notice the fingerprints on it. If it really worries you, get a transparent case.

In my opinion, matte looks much better on anything.
 
What you are saying is the equivalent of 'why do we need speaker cables when we have TOSLINK?' It makes no sense. Yes one carries a digital and the other an analogue signal, but they are at different points in the chain and for completely different purposes. You can't just get rid of the analogue part of the chain; it has to happen somewhere. Switching from 3.5mm to lightning doesn't change quality one bit. It just moves the 'somewhere.'

With more flexibility for DAC built into headphones and outside of the phone, it's only a matter of time audio quality increases with the loss of the 3.5mm
 
I suppose an expansion of the iPhone upgrade programme is too much to ask for? Say one that doesn't start and end with US??

Honestly I get really tired of the hoops I have to jump through just to trade in my old phone and buy a new one. Bizarre that it hasn't been made available in UK.
 
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With more flexibility for DAC built into headphones and outside of the phone, it's only a matter of time audio quality increases with the loss of the 3.5mm

No it's not. First, if manufacturers want to build headphones like that, there has been nothing stopping them for the past few years. Few have bothered because there is little advantage from moving the dac and amp outboard of the phone into something that can be contained in a tiny pair of earbuds. Most outboard dac's and amps have been battery powered bricks where there is room to put the components that will actually make a difference.

As I've been saying since the very first whiff of this rumor, the vast majority of the headphones sold in the world cost less than $50. Now those $50 headphones that aren't that great now have to also include a lightning adapter (with the associated licensing fees), a dac, and an amp. If they are wireless they also need to include a battery and the bluetooth hardware, plus probably a cable for charging. You really think that is going to improve sound quality for the same $50 budget?
 
I guarantee you all when apple switches to oled the first responses will be "omg how gorgeous is that screen"

Correct, our hate, contempt, "99% don't need..." feelings about competing technologies only persists until we believe Apple is going to adopt them. Then it's as if we never had such feelings. Or a few might reuse the old, "...but now I'm coming around..." or the "now that I've actually seen it..." lines rather than just ignore their past stances.

The vast majority of "us" used to rip phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" for years with "one handed use" and "pants with bigger pockets," etc. Then Apple adopted bigger-screen phones and I'm still to see all these people roaming around in pants with bigger pockets. And apparently our hands grew... or we noticed that we have another to work with.;)

We relentlessly bashed NFC as gimmick until Apple adopted it.

Etc. It's always stupid while Apple doesn't have it... or it becomes stupid when we believe Apple wants to get rid of it.

I wish we could peek into a parallel universe where- say- Samsung was the one jettisoning the 3.5" for a proprietary "all digital" jack and see how passionate the Apple crowd would be about endorsing that change for "the future" and kicking out the "antiquated." I guess Apple would be so very wrong for clinging to the ubiquitous 3.5mm jack in that universe and our equivalents would be ripping into Apple for doing so, while praising Samsung for leading the way to "the future.":p
 
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Damn ****ing we need a new iPhone after two years o_O and not a old recycled with some minor changes
Because to stay compelling and justifying the price tag it holds... Oh wait, the most expensive part of the iPhone is the :apple: on it :eek:.

Still don't understand why they keep the dual camera and 3 gb only for the 7 plus if rumors hold true... I suppose the price will come down to stay relevant in the market :cool:
 
Thought you were going to be honest.
The only time I've seen unreliable Lightening connectors, they've been cheap third party versions.

I had to throw away the cable included in the box with my 6s+ after less than two months of usage. It was bothering me with constant connect/disconnect notifications from the phone when attached to my MBP. I've replaced it with a cheap third party option which works fine for more than half a year.

The cable that came with my SE is good though.

You have a simple choice - or continue thinking I'm trying my best to lie to you, or admit that all these tiny data+power cables are more or less the same. Sometimes good, sometimes not, and sometimes prone of fast wear.
 
We don't know if it will have fast or wireless charging yet. Possibly.

I thought you ordered the Note 7 from a few posts back or you preordered it? At least you started a thread on this. Are you switching over? Last I read you stated you were not interested in the iPhone 7.
I never said I wasn't interested. It's that Samsung is doing some really cool things in hardware right now while Apple seems to have stagnated. That being said, my Note 7 is currently in a FedEx box being sent back. The phone was fun but it still ran Android, and it had some serious performance issues. Now that there has been a worldwide recall, I'm sending it back and won't be rebuying it.
 
Have you not read about the dual-cameras? It's not a gimmick. Much better low-light photos and the ability to zoom in without losing quality. Oh and the bokeh effect. Yep, that's a gimmick. Do your research.

Is that another gimmick that Apple have "borrowed" (cough) :rolleyes: from Android.?
 
How many do you expect to see in 5 years? 10 years?
I am in the shower right now, can't see a single 3,5mm port anywhere...

I can't predict the future, but let's look at the past for guidance. 5/10 years ago, I had fewer 3.5mm ports in my living room. Seems the standard is growing...

If you posting from the shower, presumably from an electronic device, you should see at least one 3.5mm port, unless you have one of the few smartphones without one. In my shower, the shower radio also has a 3.5mm port (not that I have ever used it)
 
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Imagine for a moment the Galaxy 7 edge wasn't a Samsung phone but an Apple phone with the :apple: on it.
I'll bet we would see huge lines in front of the Apple stores.

I'll bet those same people who criticize about oled are flabbergasted by the screen and camera. For me it isn't important if a phone starts apps a tenth of a second faster then the other. Fast is fast these days. You'll be using the screen the most, so that should be top in a premium priced phone, like the rest of the components.

Back to reality... Same old, same old. Yawn.
 
I had to throw away the cable included in the box with my 6s+ after less than two months of usage. It was bothering me with constant connect/disconnect notifications from the phone when attached to my MBP. I've replaced it with a cheap third party option which works fine for more than half a year.

The cable that came with my SE is good though.

You have a simple choice - or continue thinking I'm trying my best to lie to you, or admit that all these tiny data+power cables are more or less the same. Sometimes good, sometimes not, and sometimes prone of fast wear.

I had that too, but with all my cables (both lighting and audio jack was flaky). I though my phone was dying. I tried everything (reset, reinstall, new cable) to fix it. Then I found a website saying it is lint in the back of the connectors, use a toothpick and dig it out and holy **** there was a ton of lint coming out. After the procedure, everything worked fine again.
 
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