iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model

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40 pages for a phone...

 

[itsboi]

You've never used a new android phone I suppose. No lag, great performance and even better stability then iOS (this has been researched). You might live in a country where are lots of other iPhone users.

I've honestly never had this consistent experience on my previous Galaxy phones.

 

[9081094]

You do realize that since Tim Cook took over as the hand-picked replacement by Steve, that profits and sales are higher than they ever have been? That means way more customers are buying apple products that ever before and the customer satisfaction is higher than any other company. That means Apple Customers are extremely happy and buying more and more Apple products. That makes Shareholders happy and since Apple isn't a Private company, they will not act like a private company which doesn't have to disclose anything.

We are more techie and we want things the way we want things... we are the minority of the consumers. The consumers are buying more Apple products than ever before. The 5-year run by Tim Cook - no matter how much we don't like it, has seen the largest growth by Apple ever it its history. Tim Cook donates/gives away almost all of his money he makes from Apple so he is not greedy/driven by profits. I think he gives away 95% of all his money to charity.

That's going to change soon. Have you seen the buyers guide here on the forum. All products except two are set on 'don't buy'. It's true that Apple made billions in profits the last couple of years. But that's going to change rapidly because they've done little with those billions to invest in new products and research and development. Competitors are ahead of Apple now. And it's really greedy of Apple selling 4+ years old computers for the same price. That's arrogant and greedy.

But that's going to change rapidly because Apple gets punished by about any other tech/computer maker.
Their biggest milking cow, won't sell that much as it did before. The market will respond and by that time those same shareholders will abandon ship and buy themselves into another company. Shareholders are like a plague of grasshoppers. They care about one thing. The same thing Apple has been caring for under Cook. And it's not selling their customers the best products and experiences.

 

[Tycho24]

This is already happening here in the Netherlands and I believe is happening in China as well. People wake up and want bang for their bucks. Even in the USA I believe the Galaxy s7 edge is outselling the iPhone 6s. Over here Aplle is slowly losing its cool and the youngsters of today won't buy them like they used to do. Only a matter of time now.

Lol, nice try... but the flaming note galaxy series is the "untested garbage" I'm referring to & what the op thinks Apple should copy. Samsung is all sizzle, no steak. It is RIDICULOUS that their newest handsets highest reviews say things like "barely perceivable lag on the home screen" and comments like that. Lol, wut?? 8 core processors, more ram than a laptop... & can't do things like "scroll between home screens" without lag??
What a joke!!!!
Yeah: again, my point is- the day Apple changes their strategy to match these clowns is the start of the nosedive.
Sorry you missed my point so badly.

 

[9081094]

Lol, nice try... but the flaming note galaxy series is the "untested garbage" I'm referring to & what the op thinks Apple should copy. Samsung is all sizzle, no steak. It is RIDICULOUS that their newest handsets highest reviews say things like "barely perceivable lag on the home screen" and comments like that. Lol, wut?? 8 core processors, more ram than a laptop... & can't do things like "scroll between home screens" without lag??
What a joke!!!!
Yeah: again, my point is- the day Apple changes their strategy to match these clowns is the start of the nosedive.
Sorry you missed my point so badly.

Sorry you've missed my point. That nose dive of Apple is already happening. Look at the numbers and you'll see.

 

[The Game 161]

Youngsters leaving iMessage? Almost no chance in that...for that market iPhone will always be the best option.

 

[TallManNY]

This is a little different to the other past apple 'game changers' There must be 7 billion 3.5mm jacks at least in the world. (this is a guess but I dont think I'm far wrong if at all).
Apple would have been crazy to risk upsetting so many.
The expression "commercial suicide" comes to mind.
So this time a free adapter in box
was a must have - must include - must keep all these billions as happy as we can for the 50 cent cost.

I better there are more than 7 billion. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 15 billion. Not actively used mind you. But if you could the ones sitting in drawers. I'm a tech guy and not indicative of normal folk, but I'd guess I have 20 devices in my house that have 3.5mm jacks in them.

That's going to change soon. Have you seen the buyers guide here on the forum. All products except two are set on 'don't buy'. It's true that Apple made billions in profits the last couple of years. But that's going to change rapidly because they've done little with those billions to invest in new products and research and development. Competitors are ahead of Apple now. And it's really greedy of Apple selling 4+ years old computers for the same price. That's arrogant and greedy.

But that's going to change rapidly because Apple gets punished by about any other tech/computer maker.
Their biggest milking cow, won't sell that much as it did before. The market will respond and by that time those same shareholders will abandon ship and buy themselves into another company. Shareholders are like a plague of grasshoppers. They care about one thing. The same thing Apple has been caring for under Cook. And it's not selling their customers the best products and experiences.

Apple is spending billions on R&D. Much more their competitors. I think we are seeing the effect in the phenomenal mobile chips that they are pushing out. And presumably billions is going into the car project.

But I'm quite disappointed with the rate of change for the Macs. The iPhone seems great and except possibly for the better screen available on top of the line Androids, I'm not sure if there is any really innovation that is so amazing on them.

 

[Abazigal]

I'm sorry did my post mention the word "all" ?

You mentioned copying Android. While conveniently sidestepping the fact that different android smartphones run different features. There isn't one version of Android which manages to amalgamate all these features, just as each of their takes on Android has its own share of flaws as well. Just because one out of many smartphone OEMs has done dual-cameras, so Apple is somehow copying Android now?

It's an unfair condemnation either way.

 

[iPhisch]

You serious? The Lightning port is the most durable port I've ever seen.

Durable, maybe, but every cable I've owned has corroded leads and has eventually been replaced. The exposed leads on the tip suck. Your kid hides behind the couch and sticks the cable in their mouth for 15 seconds and it's ruined. It needs a retractable spring cover or something.

 

[9081094]

Youngsters leaving iMessage? Almost no chance in that...for that market iPhone will always be the best option.

I'm from the Netherlands where about 10% is on iPhone and that number is decreasing. So yes... It's hard to use iMessage here. Whatsapp is the standard.

 

[igorsky]

There have been numerous articles posted over the past few months talking about the rumor of Apple removing the 3.5mm jack. If you look back at those articles, the numbers of responses are astounding and the vast majority of responses are from people furious about the potential (probably imminent) 3.5mm jack removal.

The 3.5mm jack is a universal standard across laptops, automobiles, desktops, music players, stereos, mobile phones, tablets, even in-seat audio jacks on most passenger airlines. Removing this standard is a complete slap in the face to millions of consumers who have spent a lot of money on high quality headphones, earbuds, speakers, etc. that all use the 3.5mm standard.

I know people love to compare removing the 3.5mm jack to eliminating the old floppy or CD, but those were upgrades to new standards embraced by the entire computer industry as a move forward in technology and convenience.

If removed, Apple will have taken away a reliable open standard, replacing it with their proprietary standard, and I'm confident virtually no other equipment manufacture will ever embrace Lightning (I'm not talking about headset/earbud manufactures, I'm talking about other desktop, laptop, tablet, stereo, phone, automobile, music player, and aircraft manufactures). You are never going to see widespread acceptance of Lightning on other devices.

With this potential bonehead decision Apple does not move us forward, they lock us into a standard they control/own and move us away from the mainstream into a segregated solution that is not even available on Apple’s own computer line ... which coincidently uses the 3.5mm audio jack.

So what might Apple give us in return, maybe they shave a faction of a millimeter (bid deal) from the phone's thickness, and/or maybe we get a second (or better) speaker because they want us to believe we need some kind of so-called “stereo sound”. It’s pathetic!

Give us back the 3.5mm jack and keep your second/improved speaker. We don’t need a so-called stereo in our pockets.

I look forward to your follow up comment in a few years when every new smartphone on the planet follows Apple and ditches the 3.5mm jack.

 

[ZebraDude]

Adapter in the box? Good one. This is the same Apple that doesnt include a proper charging brick with their $1000 12.9" iPad

and the same Apple that did not include the proper 10w charging brick with my iPhone 6 plus.

 

[AppleScruff1]

As an Apple Shareholder, I am very thankful of their profits and superior build and quality still today and everyone is fine to keep topping them on thinness and price because they run Windows or Linux. No thanks... Apple just makes superior quality products and by far the best eco-system which means the most to businesses and educated individuals who do not want to spend all day troubleshooting and rebooting.

I've used Windows for years and have never spent much time trouble shooting or rebooting. Are you sure that Apple products appeal to to "educated" individuals because of quality? Or is it simplicity and ease of use? And last time I checked, the business world runs on Windows, just like the machines that are used in iPhone production.

 

[The Game 161]

I'm from the Netherlands where about 10% is on iPhone and that number is decreasing. So yes... It's hard to use iMessage here. Whatsapp is the standard.

Each to their own I guess. I know in different countries what's app is very popular. I know here most of us who I know only use what's app for pic ,messages. I think if they transferred what's app to tablets/computers I think it would catch on more.

 

[9081094]

Durable, maybe, but every cable I've owned has corroded leads and has eventually been replaced. The exposed leads on the tip suck. Your kid hides behind the couch and sticks the cable in their mouth for 15 seconds and it's ruined. It needs a retractable spring cover or something.

Each to their own I guess. I know in different countries what's app is very popular. I know here most of us who I know only use what's app for pic ,messages. I think if they transferred what's app to tablets/computers I think it would catch on more.

whatsapp is very similar to iMessage and you can make free phone calls to others too, like FaceTime (sound only). It's multi platform and you can have group chats. Although I love iMessage, it's only possible with a few friends. Most people here are on android.

 

[Mac 128]

I've used Windows for years and have never spent much time trouble shooting or rebooting. Are you sure that Apple products appeal to to "educated" individuals because of quality? Or is it simplicity and ease of use? And last time I checked, the business world runs on Windows, just like the machines that are used in iPhone production.

I'd say "quality" has something to do with it (depending on what your definition of "is" is). I have friends who exclusively use Windows, but buy Macs to run it on. Some of these are software developers. They also use iPhones and iPads. Interestingly, most have smart/fitness watches but none chose Apple.

 

[jimbobb24]

Splitting out the plus and normal in terms of features besides size continues to be one of the most bizarre moves ever. No way I want a plus but I have to choose a different size to get dual camera. Does any other phone company do this? It sucks. And in one of those "Apple is a penny pinching greedy company" moves like 16 Gb of storage.

 

[Emilio G]

LOL keep deluding yourself.

Thanks! Will do!

 

[coachingguy]

Nope, that would be battery and camera. Perhaps they can become accessory add-ons in the next iPhone(s)... sold separately too? The very same "antiquated" arguments could be applied to battery and/or camera with only minor wording changes. Are we going to do that should Apple feel emboldened to see if they can kick those out too. You may think that's a joke but the camera "wart" will only clash more and more with "thinner." And nothing will "thinner" a future iPhone faster than getting rid of the thing that makes up most of it's "fat" inside now.

Of course, we won't bash Apple for still using those even older technologies in this iPhone rather than boldly jettisoning those to spur on "the future" because those will still be built INSIDE of this next iPhone. Our only "antiquated" spin is associated with the one thing we pretty much know is getting jettisoned... and then all this is only spun here- with this one Apple product- because it's the only one that will be without a 3.5mm jack. None of us are over in Mac, iPad or iPod threads ripping into Apple for continuing to sell those products with the antiquated, outdated, inconvenient, "wires cause cancer", "I tripped over a headphone wire and fell down 2, no 20 no 200, no 2000 flights of stairs... yeah, that's the ticket", etc.

Instead, here- with just the one thing- 3.5mm is almost at "abomination" status. But do keep buying all those other Apple products that still have it because it's fine over there... until Apple gets rid of it there too.

Wait, what? So, the Camera and Battery have not undergone any improvements since the 3.5 jack was invented? We're not even having the same conversation. But thanks.

Coachingguy

 

[44267547]

I never said I wasn't interested. It's that Samsung is doing some really cool things in hardware right now while Apple seems to have stagnated. That being said, my Note 7 is currently in a FedEx box being sent back. The phone was fun but it still ran Android, and it had some serious performance issues. Now that there has been a worldwide recall, I'm sending it back and won't be rebuying it.

Interesting. I thought the Note 7 recall applied to the European model? This must have expanded?

Are you purchasing The iPhone 7? If so, which model and color? Three days until the KeyNote.

 

[9081094]

I've used Windows for years and have never spent much time trouble shooting or rebooting. Are you sure that Apple products appeal to to "educated" individuals because of quality? Or is it simplicity and ease of use? And last time I checked, the business world runs on Windows, just like the machines that are used in iPhone production.

I personally prefer OS X but unfortunately OS X runs only on outdated hardware. Hope that's going to change soon.With the lack of interest on Apple's part and exorbitant high price tags Apple just lost an opportunity to grow in computers.

 

[doelcm82]

Appreciate your points but this "present" can't be as pleasant, until it catches up to the pleasant present we already enjoy... except for those who are already fine with Lightning or Bluetooth, as this change has no net effect on them- just those of us who enjoy non-proprietary, adapter-less and thorough ubiquity.

Again, the very same arguments being spun against 3.5mm can be spun for the older technologies that are battery & camera. Perhaps Apple should go ahead and eject those out to add-on accessory items too... to spur on "the future" of those technologies, if having to get rid of present "just works" utility is pretty much a requirement to drive innovation of "better" and "the future"?

That's rhetorical. Since this iPhone will keep the battery and camera technologies, they are both perfectly fine- albeit more antiquated- technologies in iPhones. Just this ONE thing needs to go because... well because Apple has decided it should go. Should they decide the camera or battery should go, we'll argue the same great "the future" positives about shifting those out to add-ons too... for many of the very same reasons.

Apple can make even more margins, sell even more add-ons too, while keeping the iPhone price the same. Why bother to complain? Apple can innovate by subtraction but still command full price. At the same time, they are the catalyst for "the future" (so what if we consumers have to juggle adapters or other hassles while we await a "the future" with the ubiquitousness of what we already have in this version of "the present.")

I look forward to the "I told you so" when Apple releases an iPhone with no internal power supply or image-capturing hardware.
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40 pages for a phone...

It's the weekend before a new iPhone is announced. There aren't a lot of other stories to draw comments.

 

[9081094]

I look forward to the "I told you so" when Apple releases an iPhone with no internal power supply or image-capturing hardware.
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It's the weekend before a new iPhone is announced. There aren't a lot of other stories to draw comments.

But still 40 pages is remarkable knowing that all the new things of the iPhone 7 will fit in a 4 row quote

 

[0lf]

Even in the USA I believe the Galaxy s7 edge is outselling the iPhone 6s.

I bet you have valuable figures to share ? May be the sales during the first 6 month of their respective commercial life ?

 

[jimbobb24]

Apple rarely waits for "perfection" (as though that's possible) to make a move like this. The iPhone was released without support for Adobe Flash, even though that really limited the usefulness of mobile web browsing. They removed the optical drive when significant numbers of their customers were still using it.

They know that to really make a change happen, you don't make it easy for people to keep doing things the old way.

One way to switch the United States over to the metric system (a superior system in almost every way) is to make cute commercials letting people know how easy the metric system is to use (a gram is about the weight of a raisin, now isn't that amazin'? The meter is a little more than a yard. It's really not so hard.) Then the change will happen...someday...or not ever

The metric system? The 1970s called and they want your pseudo internationalism back. The US stands with Burma and Liberia is resisting this bland soulless system of measurement.