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This is why a lot of Americans are in debt. Everyone that "liked" this comment, how many of you have everything paid off? Like my 1.6 million home, 20 watches each costing $20,000 and up, just brought 2 BMW last month paid off. Yes I really could buy that $50,000,000 latest yacht but it's stupid cus i already got 1 already, yes it's 5 years old but it's paid off. I feel so bad for everyone just showing off that they can buy this phone but yet it's through monthly payments through your carrier. And yes the yacht cost more than the house but who cares. It's all paid off. Do I go show off and say, because we can. Only little kids do this.


I love a decent comedy in the morning.
 
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Always a good old belly laugh to be had listening to people making purchase decisions about a device THAT HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED YET.

:D :D ROFL!
 
About 18 months ago I got a 6+ and I paid full price to avoid the contract. It was just over $1000. Now, thanks to the gray bar problem, I'm about to have a non-functioning device that Apple will not replace unless I purchase a refurbished model. I'm not throwing another grand at them only to get another device that will last 18 months. Nope. My 5S is charging up right now, and I've got a 4S behind that.
 
Let it go..... Again I am going to say this over and over...... That 3.5 jack takes up an enormous amount of internal space you do realize that right? Removing it allows for much more internal space for things like battery, speakers, and so on. So what difference does it make if apple will be including a lightning to 3.5 adapter? How many people truly use the 3.5 jack AND the lighting port at the same time? Likewise I am sure there will be y adapters out there to allow for charging and 3.5 jack. Even on the android side they are moving away from the 3.5 port and going over to USB-C.... The 3.5 jack is a dying tech standard. The new standard will be USB-C/Bluetooth.
The big difference is that you might use it in a car as an iPod and a GPS and need both of the ports if the car is not supporting bluetooth....
 
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I hope they make it a little thicker so it doesn't bend simply being in one's pocket...

Or

I hope this event reduces the cost of the iPhone SE.
 
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To generate interest in wireless headphones and boost adoption of them.

Sometimes, the best way to predict the future is to invent it, and that seems to be precisely what Apple is doing - taking an active hand in shaping the way we consumers listen to our music.

"Who wants wireless EarPods? You have to get em', put em' away. You lose them. Yuck."
 
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The big difference is that you might use it in a car as an iPod and a GPS and need both of the ports if the car is not supporting bluetooth....
An adapter could provide a 3.5mm output jack for older cars that don't have either bluetooth or a USB outlet. And if you leave the adapter in your car you only have to plug one thing into your phone every time you get in, rather than fumbling for both the lightning cable and the audio cable.
 
The big difference is that you might use it in a car as an iPod and a GPS and need both of the ports if the car is not supporting bluetooth....

The simplest way for Apple to address this problem is to update the free Lightning charging cable included in the box with a pass-through port on the plug, adding no more bulk to the cable. Third parties will certainly be able to crank these out pretty cheaply as well. Personally, I'd opt for a $20 BT dongle for my car's head unit, that I could also take with me to use in other cars, airplane entertainment systems, house parties, etc. But that's me.

Until your battery runs out.

When your battery runs out, you plug in your cable and keep listening. Don't buy a pair of wireless headphones without a detachable cable.

Look at any thread on this and many other websites. A 3.5mm jack is what the consumer is demanding, and many won't upgrade to the iPhone 6S re-skin minus a headphone port.

That's anecdotal evidence at best and from a very specific demographic . Here's a survey that demonstrates very different results.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/16/01...o.ask.apple.shoppers.what.they.thought.131986

Barely anyone was using thier Floppy/CD when they where removed. The keyboard removal didn't obsolete the equipment you used or removed interoperability with other equipment. If the audio jack has to go, then USB-C will be the wired standard in the future, not lightning. This will be another USB vs Firewire thing where firewire will die sometime in the future.

You're right. By the time USB-C achieves any kind of market saturation, the Lightning port will likely go away completely on the iPhone, and wireless will be the only way to connect anything to the phone. If someone absolutely needs to connect something physically to the iPhone, it will be through magnetic induction. Most other devices will provide a standard wireless interface as well. Since USB-C won't eliminate the need for adapters for well over a decade, carrying an adapter after wireless becomes the standard won't be a problem.

Have Apple thought this 3.5mm/lightning thing through properly? A lot of Apple fanboys are musicians. Bluetooth headphones have latency which makes them impossible to perform music on. If the lightning socket is occupied by a MIDI keyboard (as I use it for), then where are the headphones going to go? Bluetooth headphones are not an option.

I'll guarantee you they've given more thought to this than you have.

The simplest answer is you'll need a splitter, which you'll leave attached to your midi keyboard. I can imagine other options, some included in the box, depending on your headphones and equipment.

Out of curiosity, how do you charge your iPhone currently while your MIDI keyboard is plugged into it? If you're like me, a long music session could easily drain your iPhone.

Q1: Lets assume lightning headphones are provided:

To use my existing headphones in the iphone 7 - I need an adaptor. Hopefully free, otherwise at least 20-30 bucks.

I cannot use my new bundled iphone 7 headphones with my ipad pro or older iphones? Also cannot use it with my macbook 12 - so another adaptor required. Another 20--30 bucks.

WOW!

Q2: Also, how come apple don't remove lightning completely, and use usb-c on their ios devices?

1a) If you want to keep using your old equipment, yes you will need an adapter and I expect Apple will not include one in the box. Expect to pay $20 for one.

1b) of course your Lightning headphones will be compatible with any Lightning port. If you have an old 30-pin iPad, you'll need an adapter. I expect Apple will add Lightning ports to new Macs. But you'll need an adapter with your old Mac. The difference here is that I don't expect this adapter to be very expensive at all.

I expect Apple to update MFi specs to allow analogue audio to be input through a Lightning plug for use with an analogue device -- a situation that hasn't existed before. Since Lightning is a smart connector, a chip in the adapter will tell the headphones to bypass the internal DAC and pass the analogue signal straight to the transducers. This prevents the ridiculous situation of converting an analogue signal into digital just to get it into the headphones, only to convert it back to analogue again. Such an adapter could easily be less than $5 since it's basically just a conversion wire. And I expect Apple to include it free in the box, as it promote the use of Lightning headphones.

2) if Apple switched to USB-C, over half-a-billion customers will have to throw out their investment in Lightning cables and accessories over the last 4 years, and replace them with USB-C, which is not presently usable on much else. It will take several more years before USB-C is even widely available on many devices. by the time USB-C achieves market saturation, Apple will likely be removing all ports from the iPhone and go wireless for everything on mobile devices. And since Apple is promoting wireless headphones, which is a much wider standard than USB-C (which is in its infancy), there's no real reason to jump onto a yet to materialize wired audio standard.

I've already got bluetooth headphones for the gym and theyre a pain remebering to charge them once a week. Maybe if theres no cables to plug in could have a stand on my desk and just a case of putting them onto the stand at night to charge.

Ask Siri to provide you with a reminder. But I can't help but observe your complaining about charging the headphones once a week, but not the daily grind of winding and untangling cables between each use, constant plugging and unplugging, and general cable management of using wired headphones. I have happily left that hassle behind, in a trade off of charging my headphones once a day, along with my other gear.

I guess iconic pics like this will be dead now.
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Nope. They just won't have wires.

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My point was that just because something lasted 40 years, doesn't mean that we are not nearing a tipping point. And there comes a point where we don't mourn the loss of the 56K modem port or that of the Ethernet port anymore.

Actually many people due mourn the loss of the Ethernet port. I attended Apple WWDC this year and found it quite amusing that they had "download stations" that they encouraged people to use to download the new betas instead of over Wifi. They even provided the TB->Ethernet connectors to use. While Wifi is deemed "good enough" for many cases, there still is a benefit to wired ethernet (speed/reliability/latency/security). The same is to be said of BT vs. 3.5m. 3.5m provides better sound quality, reliability and latency that BT can't match.
 
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yea, yea, minor upgrades. I'm hoping for some exclusive software features for the new phone like the 6S with the live photos. I'm upgrading anyways from the 6+. I want my 4K camera and fast Siri response! Maybe there will be some exclusive tandem feature with the Apple Watch 2.
 
This years killer Feature:

One more thing ...

We have this amazing new feature it's brilliant and one of a kind ... We call it: Apple TAX !!

Simply by swiping it makes all your social duties go away, Tax is reduced to 0.00001%, it's that simple! And it is fully integrated with Apple PAY, can you believe that? We will be amazed what people can do with it!
 
Actually many people due mourn the loss of the Ethernet port. I attended Apple WWDC this year and found it quite amusing that they had "download stations" that they encouraged people to use to download the new betas instead of over Wifi. They even provided the TB->Ethernet connectors to use. While Wifi is deemed "good enough" for many cases, there still is a benefit to wired ethernet (speed/reliability/latency/security). The same is to be said of BT vs. 3.5m. 3.5m provides better sound quality, reliability and latency that BT can't match.

Wi-fi is really convenient, but cables are faster.
I cabled my flat during the refurbishment and I have my Apple tv and my Mac connected via ethernet. With about 15 wi-fi networks available I experiences serious signal problems.

Bluetooth will improve a lot, but I agree on the fact that wired headphone will always sound better. The gap will narrow and bluetooth will be ok for most users (in fact it is a good option even today) but I imagine wires equipment will continue to be better even in the future
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You're right. By the time USB-C achieves any kind of market saturation, the Lightning port will likely go away completely on the iPhone, and wireless will be the only way to connect anything to the phone. If someone absolutely needs to connect something physically to the iPhone, it will be through magnetic induction.

The smart connector may become their only physical interface in the future. It carries data and power, so it can be used to charge the battery and to transfer data.
 
I bought an SE last week. Not sure if I could do without the headphone jack. Also tired of carrying large phones. Am so happy with my smaller phone...Small is Beautiful!
Small is useless can't use the Internet with a small screen size well, do videos, and it's using outdated tech already
 
The simplest way for Apple to address this problem is to update the free Lightning charging cable included in the box with a pass-through port on the plug, adding no more bulk to the cable. Third parties will certainly be able to crank these out pretty cheaply as well. Personally, I'd opt for a $20 BT dongle for my car's head unit, that I could also take with me to use in other cars, airplane entertainment systems, house parties, etc. But that's me.



When your battery runs out, you plug in your cable and keep listening. Don't buy a pair of wireless headphones without a detachable cable.



That's anecdotal evidence at best and from a very specific demographic . Here's a survey that demonstrates very different results.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/16/01...o.ask.apple.shoppers.what.they.thought.131986



You're right. By the time USB-C achieves any kind of market saturation, the Lightning port will likely go away completely on the iPhone, and wireless will be the only way to connect anything to the phone. If someone absolutely needs to connect something physically to the iPhone, it will be through magnetic induction. Most other devices will provide a standard wireless interface as well. Since USB-C won't eliminate the need for adapters for well over a decade, carrying an adapter after wireless becomes the standard won't be a problem.



I'll guarantee you they've given more thought to this than you have.

The simplest answer is you'll need a splitter, which you'll leave attached to your midi keyboard. I can imagine other options, some included in the box, depending on your headphones and equipment.

Out of curiosity, how do you charge your iPhone currently while your MIDI keyboard is plugged into it? If you're like me, a long music session could easily drain your iPhone.



1a) If you want to keep using your old equipment, yes you will need an adapter and I expect Apple will not include one in the box. Expect to pay $20 for one.

1b) of course your Lightning headphones will be compatible with any Lightning port. If you have an old 30-pin iPad, you'll need an adapter. I expect Apple will add Lightning ports to new Macs. But you'll need an adapter with your old Mac. The difference here is that I don't expect this adapter to be very expensive at all.

I expect Apple to update MFi specs to allow analogue audio to be input through a Lightning plug for use with an analogue device -- a situation that hasn't existed before. Since Lightning is a smart connector, a chip in the adapter will tell the headphones to bypass the internal DAC and pass the analogue signal straight to the transducers. This prevents the ridiculous situation of converting an analogue signal into digital just to get it into the headphones, only to convert it back to analogue again. Such an adapter could easily be less than $5 since it's basically just a conversion wire. And I expect Apple to include it free in the box, as it promote the use of Lightning headphones.

2) if Apple switched to USB-C, over half-a-billion customers will have to throw out their investment in Lightning cables and accessories over the last 4 years, and replace them with USB-C, which is not presently usable on much else. It will take several more years before USB-C is even widely available on many devices. by the time USB-C achieves market saturation, Apple will likely be removing all ports from the iPhone and go wireless for everything on mobile devices. And since Apple is promoting wireless headphones, which is a much wider standard than USB-C (which is in its infancy), there's no real reason to jump onto a yet to materialize wired audio standard.



Ask Siri to provide you with a reminder. But I can't help but observe your complaining about charging the headphones once a week, but not the daily grind of winding and untangling cables between each use, constant plugging and unplugging, and general cable management of using wired headphones. I have happily left that hassle behind, in a trade off of charging my headphones once a day, along with my other gear.



Nope. They just won't have wires.

Thank you.
 
- Storage capacities of 32 GB, 128 GB, and 256 GB on both the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The iPhone 7 Plus will include 3 GB of DRAM to support the dual-lens camera, while the iPhone 7 will continue to include 2 GB

What about prices?
These are the storage tier of iPad pro, and Apple charges $150 for each update.
I wonder if they'll adopt the same price policy or continue with current prices for the iPhone charging $100 for 128GB and $100 more for 256GB.
I think most users currently on 64GB won't go back to 32GB and be forced to chose the 128GB model, so $50 more for Apple.
And for European customer it is even worse, we pay about $200 more to have the 128GB model, so the second storage tier would cost like the third one, $100 more for Apple
 
Actually many people due mourn the loss of the Ethernet port. I attended Apple WWDC this year and found it quite amusing that they had "download stations" that they encouraged people to use to download the new betas instead of over Wifi. They even provided the TB->Ethernet connectors to use. While Wifi is deemed "good enough" for many cases, there still is a benefit to wired ethernet (speed/reliability/latency/security). The same is to be said of BT vs. 3.5m. 3.5m provides better sound quality, reliability and latency that BT can't match.

You're really talking about a professional vs. consumer environment. I doubt Apple would remove the 3.5mm headphone jack in preference for wireless, without addressing the issues you raise. But we will see. Nevertheless, for someone who needs the kind of quality and performance you describe, there's Lightning which enables arguably superior quality and performance depending on what's plugged into it. Otherwise, Apple would have just removed the port entirely and gone to inductive charging.
 
I would be surprised if their prices go up this cycle. Their sales of iPhones are down and are projected to be lower this year as well. They will need to be competitive, but you never know with Apple.
 
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