You still use your iPhone for Apple Pay lol. The Apple Watch has worked great for me for years, and is even more convenient! ;-)
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iPhone 8 Infrared Face Detection and General Device Design Revealed in HomePod Firmware
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You still use your iPhone for Apple Pay lol. The Apple Watch has worked great for me for years, and is even more convenient! ;-)
I've bought every iPhone except the original
Real talk: if TouchID is out, I'm out
Real talk: if TouchID is out, I'm out
I can see it now..
Please move your face further back it's too close.
Please move your face closer it's too far away.
All instead of - please press the home button.....
Yeah real innovation and moving tech forward!
Really can't see this being half as good as Touch ID. People will probably go back to pin codes!
Oh and as for the design, people do realise ever since the first iPhone it's ALWAYS had balanced chin on the top and bottom, the same size, one of the things I like about the iPhone actually, but this new design has removed that and you will now have the top chip bigger then the bottom which will feel weird when holding the phone in its side, it'll constantly look unbalanced when watching videos or playing games etc.
I hope they put a black bar on the bottom to even it out otherwise it'll look silly.
Please move your face further back it's too close.
Please move your face closer it's too far away.
All instead of - please press the home button.....
Yeah real innovation and moving tech forward!
Really can't see this being half as good as Touch ID. People will probably go back to pin codes!
Oh and as for the design, people do realise ever since the first iPhone it's ALWAYS had balanced chin on the top and bottom, the same size, one of the things I like about the iPhone actually, but this new design has removed that and you will now have the top chip bigger then the bottom which will feel weird when holding the phone in its side, it'll constantly look unbalanced when watching videos or playing games etc.
I hope they put a black bar on the bottom to even it out otherwise it'll look silly.
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that is Samsung way...like touchID came to the world in iphone 5s and everybody learn how to be implemented and workI can see it now..
Please move your face further back it's too close.
Please move your face closer it's too far away.
All instead of - please press the home button.....
Yeah real innovation and moving tech forward!
Really can't see this being half as good as Touch ID. People will probably go back to pin codes!
Oh and as for the design, people do realise ever since the first iPhone it's ALWAYS had balanced chin on the top and bottom, the same size, one of the things I like about the iPhone actually, but this new design has removed that and you will now have the top chip bigger then the bottom which will feel weird when holding the phone in its side, it'll constantly look unbalanced when watching videos or playing games etc.
I hope they put a black bar on the bottom to even it out otherwise it'll look silly.
now Apple will do the same with faceID...and probably like touchid, there will be a vers 2 in 2-3 years
That looks really slick but I would miss the time being top middle. And I guess apps that go full screen will just black (or white) off the bits at the side?
Also I sometimes wear glasses, hat, scarf, helmet, etc. Will I have to remove these to use FaceID?
Can this site just sticky an article explaining IR?
Apparently Apple is gonna blow everyone's minds when the phone can see you in the dark.
Don't see what the big deal with Apple Pay is. I could see it working with an unlocked phone. Phone is unlocked, goes onto the terminal. Or a pin I guess.
The one time I used Apple Pay on my phone, the TouchID failed because I was buying a cold drink with condensation on my hand. It was kind of embarrassing as Apple Pay was new and you start to look like that guy wrestling with his tech and wasting time. But now I use Apple Watch and the implementation on that is perfect. If I had to use the phone, I think I'd prefer a 4 digit pin. It still feels geeky to be using Apple Pay in the first place so I don't want to fumble with anything.
On a separate note... why do I still feel like the only person on the planet using Apple Pay?! It makes a heck of a lot more sense now with how slow chip cards are.
Apparently Apple is gonna blow everyone's minds when the phone can see you in the dark.
Don't see what the big deal with Apple Pay is. I could see it working with an unlocked phone. Phone is unlocked, goes onto the terminal. Or a pin I guess.
The one time I used Apple Pay on my phone, the TouchID failed because I was buying a cold drink with condensation on my hand. It was kind of embarrassing as Apple Pay was new and you start to look like that guy wrestling with his tech and wasting time. But now I use Apple Watch and the implementation on that is perfect. If I had to use the phone, I think I'd prefer a 4 digit pin. It still feels geeky to be using Apple Pay in the first place so I don't want to fumble with anything.
On a separate note... why do I still feel like the only person on the planet using Apple Pay?! It makes a heck of a lot more sense now with how slow chip cards are.
A collective cry of "oh darn it" will be heard across Cupertino on Monday.
Not joking. They managed to keep the details of the Apple Watch under wraps until the reveal. No real leaks, so we had to make do with concept art that didn't even come close.
I think so.
Now even newspaper are writing stuff about the new iPhone, so the average customer can find out something big is going to happen this fall to the iPhone.
A lot of people I know don't follow macrumors or other tech blogs but know the new iPhone is going to be OLED, less bezel etc.
They can't have leaked the new firmware by mistake, it had to be on purpose.
They paid half a billion to buy Touch ID, it would be a shame to throw it away.
Also, face detection would be really inconvenient for people who wear sunglasses. On, off, on off every few minutes.
I admire your positivity, having never seen Apples system in action, let's not forget the people who can't get Touch ID to work for them. It's not fool proof and I doubt their face detection system will be either.
Not sure what Samsung has to do with this?
But but but... I'm a shape-shifter and don't have same face every day!
You know, there are numerous posts like this saying "no touch ID = no buy", you do know the 7s/7s+ will retain it and be an upgrade from what Apple is currently selling, what's the problem? get one of those.
OTOH, with touch id you can't wear gloves during winter.
Do you really think it would work like that? When you pay with apple pay you mostly look at your phone, don't you? The great thing about infrared is, that you wouldn't need to have it in a perfect angle. Like TouchID it works with every angle. Before TouchID we always hat to put the finger in the right direction or perfect angle. With TouchID this hassle was over, and it will be the same with FaceID or whatever they will call it.
Please enlighten me:
What's the difference between having to remove your glasses in sunny weather and removing your gloves in cold weather?
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No phone has ever shipped with 3D facial recognition; the whole point is a flat 2D picture won't fool it.
The good thing about the infrared approach is, that it would work in every light condition (also very dark etc), because as mentioned, it relies on infrared and not "normal" light.
[doublepost=1501487116][/doublepost]What I find really interesting is, that you all already hate Facial Recignition before you have tried Apple's solution. I assume, that the there will be a 3D print of different markings saved from the owners face. Then when we look at the phone, in which ever angle that might be (we just have to see the top notch of the phone), and the phone will be unlocked. Imagine how practical that would be?
When we first thought about TouchID a lot of people were sceptical, and I am sure some of you were sceptical, too. But Apple showed us a perfect solution. And I am sure that they will do the same with Facial Recognition. And if you look closely at the code, you can see that TouchID is still referenced. So, we still won't know if it is really gone or not.
I just hope that if Face ID replaces Touch ID on the iPhone 8, that banks, credit card companies, do not stop supporting Apple Pay, due to security concerns. Hopefully with Apple's strong history of security, this will not be the case with the banks and credit card companies.
So much complaining...I can see it now..
Please move your face further back it's too close.
Please move your face closer it's too far away.
All instead of - please press the home button.....
Yeah real innovation and moving tech forward!
Really can't see this being half as good as Touch ID. People will probably go back to pin codes!
Its amazing how conservative and reluctant to change people are. Before Touch ID was out, everybody was complaining it would not be as safe as a passcode, how criminals would chop people's fingers off to access phones, how they would never use it, how inaccurate it would be, ....
Guess what? Everybody instantly loved Touch ID. And the same will be true for Face ID. Apple will do this right, or they won't release it (yet).
And either it will completely replace Touch ID on their high end phones or it will be an additional feature where you can start using your phone right away without touching it but still need Touch ID for payments. Giving the security investments in Apple Pay, my money is on the latter scenario.
I may ride this one out and keep my 7 for another year (unless if there is a 7s and it has some astounding new features) because with all these new features it seems avoiding revision one is a good move. Next year the hardware/software issues that will inevitably show up will get ironed out. That's always how the cycle seems to go with iPhones and most new tech these days tbh.
I have read rumours that Face Detection would work when the iPhone was lying flat (for example on a table). So using Face Recognition for Apple Pay should be as easy if not easier than using Touch ID for Apple Pay.
I'm more concerned that banks and credit card companies with either stop supporting/suspend support for Apple Pay, with fears of security, in the short term at least. They may use the argument that Face Recognition can be bypassed (as was the case with the Samsung Galaxy S8).
But I think this argument wouldn't hold water as Apple's version would use infra red and 3D mapping and this couldn't be fooled by a photograph (as was the case with the S8).