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iPhone 8 Production Said to Drop Significantly Given Popularity of iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X
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You may think you know what people want, but you don’t speak for me. I love the 4.7” screen and can operate it with one hand.
Not if they want a $349 price point. Refreshed next year to A10 and little else is my expectation. Could even keep the current A9 model and drop it to $299 in certain countries.
I'm surprised by the large number of people that say the price is so much more than the iPhone 8 Plus that it's just a ridiculous price.
$800 versus $1000 that's a 20% difference.
Let's see, if a cup of coffee was $1.00 versus $1.20, would they even think that it was 20% more?
Would people rather have a cheaper flip phone, a separate camera, a separate game boy, a separate tablet for web browsing and emails, a separate GPS with maps for navigation, a separate music player, etc.
Are they just trolls, or are these real people that have no idea of how much amazing technology they are getting for $1000?
$800 versus $1000 that's a 20% difference.
Let's see, if a cup of coffee was $1.00 versus $1.20, would they even think that it was 20% more?
Would people rather have a cheaper flip phone, a separate camera, a separate game boy, a separate tablet for web browsing and emails, a separate GPS with maps for navigation, a separate music player, etc.
Are they just trolls, or are these real people that have no idea of how much amazing technology they are getting for $1000?
Forgot to mention that the TITLE of this article is IN-accurate !
The reason the iPhone 8 hasn't been selling well is simply because Apple over-played their hand !
It doesn't offer much product differentiation than the iPhone 7, AND after the $100 Price Drop on Sept 12th, the iPhone 7 is excellent value at $549 USD ... $150 less than the 8 !
Also, those buying the Plus-sized devices, are typically more Performance-oriented, AND are willing to pay a premium for it.
The 8+ is also probably selling well because some customers, perhaps many, don't want to give up Touch ID, and if the 8+ is the last HIGH-PERF device in the line of iPhones with it, then it becomes the Go To choice !
NOT Rocket Science, but much of this stuff just doesn't just get it's just attention ... Haven't a Clue why, though.
I suspect MANY are on Apple's "secret" payroll !
The reason the iPhone 8 hasn't been selling well is simply because Apple over-played their hand !
It doesn't offer much product differentiation than the iPhone 7, AND after the $100 Price Drop on Sept 12th, the iPhone 7 is excellent value at $549 USD ... $150 less than the 8 !
Also, those buying the Plus-sized devices, are typically more Performance-oriented, AND are willing to pay a premium for it.
The 8+ is also probably selling well because some customers, perhaps many, don't want to give up Touch ID, and if the 8+ is the last HIGH-PERF device in the line of iPhones with it, then it becomes the Go To choice !
NOT Rocket Science, but much of this stuff just doesn't just get it's just attention ... Haven't a Clue why, though.
I suspect MANY are on Apple's "secret" payroll !
Great idea
Who says we need to have options anyways. Options are highly overrated. Especially since everyone on this planet is the same.
That's a false equivalence. $200 is very different from 20 cents even if the proportion is the same.
What you’re calling a 5SE is more like a 6SE. It’s a 6S, generationally, in an iPhone 5 size.
It’s Apple’s lowest priced phone, so don’t expect larger screen, no bezels, FaceID instead of TouchID, etc. because then it would be a $700 phone even without OLED.
I expect a refresh next year to A10 but what other changes make sense on this lowest tier phone?
I think some will take the X over the 8+ for its smaller size in the hand.
I bought the 8+ because I wanted most of the X features but didn't want to wait!
I'll probably upgrade to the next x.
I'm not sure it's "all of a sudden" I think it was that way since the announcement.
Also Touch ID, seriously, you'll never want to use it again. Face ID is just like having your phone unlocked all the time.
Think the X is expensive? Just wait until the X Plus comes out. It'll be $1600 USD for the 256GB model after all is said & done (taxes).
Indeed I agree with you.
That's like saying we have 20 grains of rice or 20 house bricks.
I'll throw 1 of each, and should be ok.
How about 20 of each!
Anecdotally I was getting the Plus model because I wanted the better technology (camera) and battery life. If Apple wouldn't differentiate their model's so much more people would perhaps prefer the non-plus version. This is also why I got the X. I wanted the latest technology but really couldn't stand the size of the Plus anymore.
iPhone 8 is a high-price iPhone 7. With its low volume it will become a collector's item.
iPhone X is a revolutionary design -- for better or worse. That's what people are flocking to now.
iPhone X is a revolutionary design -- for better or worse. That's what people are flocking to now.
Disagree. As long as the notch exists, there is zero chance of me buying an iPhone X.
Meanwhile, I’m enjoying wireless charging plus the best battery life of any cell phone I’ve ever had with my iPhone 8 Plus.
Actually its alot more than $1000. What are we getting for $1000 that is so special? Is Apple the only company offering such technology? The screen technology has been before, face id is old tech, eight years to be exact. Apple should have released the X as the standard iphone going foward. Instead they released a four old design, updated the specs and sold people on a new design that should have happened anyway and is charging more for it.
The problem is the average consumer is so mesmerised and gullible that they will buy and pay for whatever Apple puts out. They get away with it. And people like yourself are letting them. Sad but true.
Not fewer orders for Apple, fewer orders for Pegatron.
Apple will be selling less of the 8, but more of the X. The largest phone, 8 Plus, will sell fewer than the combined sales of the smaller 8 and X, together. Same as in the past, when the smaller phone outsold the larger.
Will there be 4 models next year? I think so, I think it’s still too early to go all in on OLED, and LG is expected to come online in 2019 to second source. So for 2018, an 8S/8S Plus (might be called 9/9 Plus) with LCD & TouchID at $699/799, and a 2018 X/X Plus at $899/999
Have an X and returning for an 8. The X is too heavy to be my daily driver. I wanted the 8’s design with no bezels, not a halfway between the 8 and the Plus. Slice this thing in half and I’ll buy one.
Not paying $1000 for a thicker, heavier, bigger design. If your coming from a plus, the X’s design is an upgrade.
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Apple wants to see better Plus sales and X sales since they have better markups and profit margins. Of coarse they will promote their sales figures to these so called analysts. Remember analysts promote themselves and like to make headlines to do so. Dont believe everything you hear.
The iphone 8 has more in common with the X than a iphone 7. Sales figures show that the X canniblized iphone 8 sales and to a lesser degree the 8 plus. Last year the iphone 7 Plus sales were neck and neck with iphone 7 sales. This had to do with the phone not reaching market saturation. This year the iphone 8 sales have been offset by iphone X sales. If there were no iphone X the 8 would still outsell the Plus. it still may as the big orders are already through and have not reached market saturation. Last year was the same and i see this year as being no different.
Ming-Chi Kuo's track record isn't perfect, but are we forgetting how many iPhone X details he revealed?
- 5.8-inch display (actual viewable area less)
- Glass back with stainless steel frame
- Black front bezel even on the Silver model
- Lightning connector with fast charging capabilities (dismissing USB-C rumor)
- Wireless charging
- Revolutionary front-facing camera with 3D sensing (aka TrueDepth)
- Stacked logic board design and L-shaped battery
- Dual optical image stabilization
- No Touch ID
- "Full-screen design" (highest screen-to-bezel ratio of any smartphone)
- Notch
- Facial recognition (aka Face ID)
- Improved selfies (aka front-facing Portrait Mode)
- 64GB and 256GB storage
- Improved stereo speakers/earpiece
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Hard to say Kuo is wrong, cutting back 50% from what? Much more informative would be estimates for the mix. You can’t project this year’s X demand based on the first week’s sales, due to pent up demand for the newest model, with hardcore and yearly updaters (IUP) bypassing the 8/8 Plus, and waiting for the top of the top of the line X model.
For the year, my gut says 2017 model market share something like 25/30/45 for iPhone 8/8 Plus/X. It’s kind of tough to predict, since the X steals some demand from the smaller 8 and some from the larger Plus. Overall I think it’s just too expensive to end up outselling the 8/8 Plus combined.
For the year, my gut says 2017 model market share something like 25/30/45 for iPhone 8/8 Plus/X. It’s kind of tough to predict, since the X steals some demand from the smaller 8 and some from the larger Plus. Overall I think it’s just too expensive to end up outselling the 8/8 Plus combined.
The thing is that there's no reason why the smaller size iPhone needs to be the lowest tier. This idea that screen size = tier needs to go away. I would suggest Apple would do well with:
Premium phones: small, medium, large
Moderate phone: medium,
Inexpensive: small
That would serve most needs pretty well. I like my SE and I had a larger phone but dislike them. Why should I be forced to a low tier simply because I want a smaller form factor? I'm perfectly willing to pay more for an equivalent iPhone X in a smaller form factor. I wouldn't expect it to be $400 at all. I'd pay $799 for it most likely. But forcing smaller form factors to be generations behind in tech for a price point is forcing people's hands. No one can say whether an iPhone X SE (SE-X?, lol) would sell well or not but I suspect it would.