Not sure why everybody is saying that there will be an iPhone X Plus. I don't think it will be the case.
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iPhone 8 Production Said to Drop Significantly Given Popularity of iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X
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If Apple had listed the 8 and 8+ $100 USD less than they did, AND had included an extra GB of DRAM in each device, then they probably would have had similar market success to what occurred with the 6 ... which BTW, benefited significantly from the fact that Qualcomm could NOT produce a competitive 64-bit processor even one full year after the A7 was included in the 5s ! (common knowledge, and I was working on the Snapdragon at the time the A7 was announced) ... meaning that launch had SIGNIFICANTLY LESS competition from the Android camp !
Even without 10-bit color, which Apple really should have included with ALL of this year's image sensors, they could have almost knocked it out of the Park.
But as it stands, their using their marketing muscle to achieve what they couldn't with smarts and/or engineering !
"Touch ID under Glass" will be the BIG addition with the Xs and Xs+, regardless as to what Apple is currently publicly saying !
Even without 10-bit color, which Apple really should have included with ALL of this year's image sensors, they could have almost knocked it out of the Park.
But as it stands, their using their marketing muscle to achieve what they couldn't with smarts and/or engineering !
"Touch ID under Glass" will be the BIG addition with the Xs and Xs+, regardless as to what Apple is currently publicly saying !
I bought the iPhone X because it is the best iPhone this year, but I would've definitely bought the iPhone X+ if such a device existed. I am getting similar battery life to my 7+ and the when I zoom in the video actually is bigger (yes some content is cut on the outer edges but it doesn't affect the experience too much). Using the phone with one hand is a welcome addition that I've missed since the iPhone 5s as well, but if they make a 6.5"~ iPhone X+, I will upgrade in a heartbeat. Just imagine watching Netflix on the go with it, and the potential battery life it will have.
Be great if it was . Though with Cook in charge, it's all about the money and not the user experience. The prices will not drop unless profits drop. So if sales do great, expect the new starting point for Apple premium iPhone to be $1K
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I hope you are right . Be nice to have one iphone going forward
Though I much prefer the size of the SE, I didn't want to hold my breath long enough for Apple to release an updated model. So I got the 8, and so far I'm happy with it. It's a bit bigger than I'd like; if Apple got rid of its forehead and chin, it would be the perfect size for me. I'm assuming bezel-less displays will gradually be deployed for all models. But until then, I'm satisfied with the iPhone few apparently want.
The slow down was possibly planned and antipated by Apple before release.
I'd love this to be the case, but somehow I don't see this happening at all.
This is their new cash cow that they're going to milk for the forseeable future.
Right, and no 3Dtouch. But by generationally, I meant the SE has the A9/2 GB of the 6S, not the A8/1GB of the 6, nor the A7/1GB implied by calling it a “5SE”. Being A9/2GB gives it life for another couple years.
A few points: we can’t just say the SE has 5% share. First, we don’t have accurate numbers. Second, if you factor the other small devices it’s a larger share. Third, there is no reason why an X treatment of the SE inherently requires the same dimensions. An oled screen could easily keep the same proportions. The question is whether people who have been forced to a 4.7” would be happier with a smaller form factor phone that has been given the same treatment as the X as in faster internals, smaller bezels, etc. that’s part of the equation as well: the number of buyers moving from a 4.7” traditional to a 4” bezel-reduced SE with the power of the X. I speculate it’s more than you’re thinking.
The more expensive models are cannibalizing the cheaper one. I'm sure Apple is very happy with that.
Literally after 15 seconds of use I forgot the home button i'd be using for 10 years even existed.
Probably is now I want rid on the iPad too. I've started swiping up to multi-tasking and tapping at the side to return to home screen instead of pressing the home button.
For me Face ID is a lot faster because i'm not actually doing anything - I don't think about unlocking my phone anymore, by the time ive swiped up, it's unlocked - as I said, it's just like having an always unlocked phone, it works far better than I thought it would - now I want it on my MacBook Pro though!
Agree regarding not really knowing market share, but analysis can be done. With the 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus, 7, 7 Plus, and now 8, 8 Plus and X all being in the mix that’s a good 700+ million larger phones in the installed base by fall 2018. Even if the SE were at 100MM by then, at least half those would have to be due to the price, not a smaller-size preference. After 2.5 years of sales, that implies a demand for smaller size at around 20MM/year.
Also, between the notch (actually probably a full width bezel) and the home indicator bar, I don’t think the current height is sufficient. 16:9 video in landscape would be pretty small, too and if you take into account safe zones, the current display size just wouldn’t be that great. If it kept the same proportions and grew to say, 4.4 or 4.5”, now it’s not as reachable for those who like 4.0”.
Overall, I just don’t think it would give the experience Apple would want for their next gen devices.
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That is exactly what I did, buying the iPhone 7 128GB model with my carrier’s payment plan. iOS 11 just brought my iPhone 6 to a crawl and decided to bite the proverbial bullet.
That’s too bad because 11.2 on the beta on my 6 Plus is screaming fast. I think it’s their optimization release. If the final release stays this fast it’s definitely bought me another year without having to upgrade. I was super close to throwing the towel in too.
After the initial rush of IUP upgraders, early adopters and those that always buy the latest/greatest has subsided, I’d actually be surprised if the X outsells the 8/8 Plus models combined.
Even with monthly payments, there’s still a price gap, and those that prefer the 8 series over the X for a variety of other reasons: don’t want a version 1.0, don’t like notch, want TouchID, prefer larger display area of the Plus, etc. I don’t think the first couple weeks will be representative of the actual sales, come Sept 2018.
It's because Apple is moving folks away from the smaller phone by stripping features away from it. If the smaller phone had dual camera and portrait mode, I wouldn't be lugging this tablet around in my pocket.
No, the “plus” have always been given better camera features. That is an upsell.
That was my hope, but I’m also on 11.2 beta and I figured it isn’t going to get any faster than this. Safari usage suffers most for me with severe keyboard lag, but the battery life is definitely better than 11.1. I may try a restore on the 6 and see what happens, but my daughter has already asked for it as a hand-me-down, and I’m ready for the 7 anyway.
What’s odd is that my work 6S is humming along nicely
My wife upgraded from a 5(!) to the 8 today because she didn’t feel the upgraded X was worth the extra $10/month. Gotta say, after seeing the 8 in action and side by side with the X it really isn’t that noticeably different. The X’s gesture based UI and Face ID is a much better UX in my opinion but as a non-geek my wife it’s didn't care much. She’s just stoked that her iPhone experience is quick again and that the keyboard doesn’t freeze when typing.
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I don’t have any keyboard lag in Safari on my 6 Plus. Strange.