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iPhone 8 Without Touch ID Doubtfully Called One 'Likely Option' if Apple Can't Place It Under Display

MacRumors said:
If it's not able to fix the problems in that time frame, Apple may be forced to eliminate fingerprint sensing from the OLED iPhone altogether.
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Because you have to work every single day, not jump around China celebrating diversity. Nothing is delivered on time these days.
 
fokmik said:
Apple is already integrate touchid into macs now..and they consider to remove it from iphones? not a chance
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Yes, and the Mac's implementation doesn't have the touch ring around it, does it? So how does it detect your finger? If they are using a diffferent technique, surely this can be applied to the iPhone now. I personally think a Touch Bar at the bottom of iPhone is better than just a giant slab of screen. Distinctive, purposeful areas are good for muscle memory.
 
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coolfactor said:
This thinking ^ I don't understand.

Let's look at cars. What if consumers demanded "a complete redesign" of cars' main functionality every year or two? Imagine having to re-learn how to drive a car every time you got a new model or different brand?

Consistency with design is a good thing for end users, and good for the stability of the platform. Poor Apple gets it from both ends ... they stick to a proven design, making it really robust, and users complain that it's not changing. They change it, having to start from scratch with refining it, and users complain that it's "buggy". They just can't win.
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What are you talking about? The current design is 3 years old, not a year or two. That means they had 3 years to come up with the next design.

Don't even get me started on the "poor apple" ridiculousness. I hope you're getting paid to make silly comments.
 
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Quu said:
I won't buy an iPhone that has no Touch ID or that has it on the back of the device. I'll stick with my iPhone 7 Plus until they come to their senses.
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Why don't you come to your senses...read the posts here from people all saying the same thing. Apple are not going to ditch touch id. They just won't do it as it makes zero sense.
Also these so called analysts could not tell me that it will be 7pm in a minute when it is 6:59pm.
Seriously, your listening to this guy?? Who the **** is he??
These analysts being the same ones who said:-
Apple were doomed within 6 months if they did not release a bigger screen iPhone (before the iPhone 6)
There would be no touch id
There would be no bigger screen iPhone 6 (the iPhone 6 plus)
and so on
I mean take it easy mate, touch id is nit going anywhere.
 
shplock said:
Why don't you come to your senses...read the posts here from people all saying the same thing. Apple are not going to ditch touch id. They just won't do it as it makes zero sense.
Also these so called analysts could not tell me that it will be 7pm in a minute when it is 6:59pm.
Seriously, your listening to this guy?? Who the **** is he??
These analysts being the same ones who said:-
Apple were doomed within 6 months if they did not release a bigger screen iPhone (before the iPhone 6)
There would be no touch id
There would be no bigger screen iPhone 6 (the iPhone 6 plus)
and so on
I mean take it easy mate, touch id is nit going anywhere.
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My post is just working under the assumption that it is being removed. All these posts would be boring if all we ever replied was "Nah".
 
coolfactor said:
Yes, and the Mac's implementation doesn't have the touch ring around it, does it? So how does it detect your finger? If they are using a diffferent technique, surely this can be applied to the iPhone now. I personally think a Touch Bar at the bottom of iPhone is better than just a giant slab of screen. Distinctive, purposeful areas are good for muscle memory.
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I completely forgot it doesn't have the ring on the macbook I wouldn't be surprised if they execute it the same way being as though the bottom of the phone is supposed to be like the touch bar
 
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AlexH said:
Remove one of the most useful and loved features of the iPhone on their anniversary model? Whew, that'd be a blow. I seriously doubt that's a real possibility. But reality is stranger than fiction, so who knows...
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I think this rumor is scraping for anything that will stick and I'm not buying it. Macrumors will report just about anything and this rumor doesn't mean anything.

I think Apple will either retain Touch ID physically until it's ready for a change to have it embedded into the display. At this point, the 'iPhone 8' is likely already past the point of changing, being production is slated for June/July, which is why I believe this rumor doesn't means anything.
 
Could it be possible for Apple to be obtaining material to make the embedded TouchID in secret whilst having everyone crap their proverbial undies reading that it will be removed? If they don't get out an embedded TID this year then it'll happen next year. Either way, a new phone for me!
 
Derekuda said:
LOL, that's pretty pathetic if you would pass on a phone just because you can't make purchases on it at the less then 30% of retails that still carry it. (That number is probably going to shrink as more people/businesses ditch it and write it off as a failure).
Just an FYI, Cash still works everywhere.
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Using Apple Pay here in the U.K. for 95% of my purchases on a daily basis, and all my travel on the London underground, bus, and tram network. Cash isn't accepted on our buses FYI.
 
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Apple: we were faced with a challenge to incorporate the Touch ID under the screen. Our engineers worked very hard to develop the technology successfully.

Crowed cheers!!!

:)
 
Derekuda said:
LOL, that's pretty pathetic if you would pass on a phone just because you can't make purchases on it at the less then 30% of retails that still carry it. (That number is probably going to shrink as more people/businesses ditch it and write it off as a failure).
Just an FYI, Cash still works everywhere.
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Less than 30% of retail ? Probably in your town/village ;-)

In the UK nearly everywhere has contactless now, more each day
I've used it to pay for travel (in london), to coffee, to buying food in restaurants
 
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So once again the rumor sites are all in a flutter over not even a rumor but comments from a sell side analyst who is just guessing. It doesn't even seem like he's claiming Asian supply chain rumors. It's the dumbest thing I ever heard of. Apple would release another phone with bezels before they'd ever get rid of Touch ID. Seriously people get a grip.
 
Another example of why Apple should stop trying to release products every 12-months. Just take your time and release when ready! Same goes for MacOS...
 
Can't believe that Apple (Tim Cook) which has the entire company all in on iOS devices is at the 23 hour of design and has this mess. Guess Tim has too many world problems to solve
MacRumors said:



Apple may be forced to eliminate Touch ID from the tentatively named "iPhone 8" altogether if it cannot resolve issues with integrating the fingerprint sensor underneath the smartphone's display within the next month or so, according to Andy Hargreaves, equity research analyst at Pacific Crest Securities.

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"iPhone X" concept by designer Gabor Balogh​

Hargreaves isn't the first analyst to think Apple could do away with Touch ID, but the move seems unlikely even as a last-ditch scenario. Touch ID is at the core of Apple Pay, and it appears much more likely that 3D facial or iris recognition would complement rather than replace fingerprint sensing.

A more likely option fielded by Hargreaves is that Apple could delay "iPhone 8" production until its under-display fingerprint sensor solution is ready.

An excerpt from his research note obtained by MacRumors:At this point, Hargreaves does not believe Apple's optical fingerprint module provider has received firm orders for production, which to him suggests that Apple does not have functionality of the optical fingerprint sensor ready. Additionally, he said Apple has evaluated and passed on Synaptics' optical fingerprint solution.

Last week, Cowen and Company analyst Timothy Arcuri said Apple is facing yield issues with its AuthenTec-based under-display fingerprint sensor solution. He too speculated that Apple could remove Touch ID, but he believes it's more likely that Apple will put Touch ID on the back of the iPhone or delay production.

If Touch ID were to be removed, Hargreaves said that would place significant pressure on unproven 3D sensing to replace the verification functionality that fingerprints currently provide. However, he said Apple's 3D sensing production appears on track, and could be a viable alternative to fingerprints.In February, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said the "iPhone 8" will feature a "revolutionary" front-facing camera system with infrared for fully-featured 3D sensing capabilities. The advancements will enable the camera to determine the location and depth of objects placed in front of it.

Pacific Crest Securities maintains a $150 price target for AAPL with an overweight rating.

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