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iPhone and Leopard Delayed?

Clive At Five said:
Wasn't it engadget who reported with 100% confidence that the iPhone would be released on a certain Monday... and then it WAS...

...except it was the Cisco iPhone.

:rolleyes:

Let that help you decide whether or not to believe this report.

-Clive
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That wasn't engadget :)
 
Engadgets explanation

So their story is this: An internal memo was sent within Apple, and some Apple employee passed it on to Engadget. The internal memo was fake. I also read that some people lost major amounts of money (that is seven digits) on the stock market because of this.

Assuming that this is all true: I'd say the SEC will be investigating. And Apple will be cooperating fully. Whoever thought they should send internal email to Engadget will soon be an ex-employee. And the joker who started this by sending out this internal email will find themselves in deep trouble. :mad:
 
All Steve Jobs needs to do is get his hair cut by Bill Gates barber and Apple will be a regular Microsoft with all these god damn product delays...
 
I don't believe engadget. iphone will be launch on June 29th according to Cingular local general manager. it will ship on June 28th. official Leopard version will be announced at WWDC.
 
gnasher729 said:
then whoever ordered it will end up in jail. The end result was a manipulation of the stock market which cost some people millions.
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Surely not. If you send around a private email to employees who are explicitly prohibited from sharing it, can they be held liable for one of those employees violating their contract?

In any case, it's a dubious theory. If this email was, in fact, sent out to a bulk email list, it would have limited effectiveness in identifying a leak.
 
gnasher729 said:
So their story is this: An internal memo was sent within Apple, and some Apple employee passed it on to Engadget. The internal memo was fake. I also read that some people lost major amounts of money (that is seven digits) on the stock market because of this.

Assuming that this is all true: I'd say the SEC will be investigating. And Apple will be cooperating fully. Whoever thought they should send internal email to Engadget will soon be an ex-employee. And the joker who started this by sending out this internal email will find themselves in deep trouble. :mad:
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1) Personally, I don't buy Engadget's explanation.

2) The moron who sent them the e-mail doesn't deserve protection. Engadget doesn't necessarily have to tell the world, but I would turn over the name to Apple or the SEC in a heartbeat.

3) Anyone who gambles 7-figure sums in the stock market on a rumor site deserves to lose that money.

These may sound harsh, but actions have consequences.
 
alec said:
All Steve Jobs needs to do is get his hair cut by Bill Gates barber and Apple will be a regular Microsoft with all these god damn product delays...
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archurban said:
I don't believe engadget. iphone will be launch on June 29th according to Cingular local general manager. it will ship on June 28th. official Leopard version will be announced at WWDC.
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Read the updates...at least officially, there are no more delays :) But they did say that with the rumoured delay to October for Leopard which did happen...
 
whooleytoo said:
Surely not. If you send around a private email to employees who are explicitly prohibited from sharing it, can they be held liable for one of those employees violating their contract?

In any case, it's a dubious theory. If this email was, in fact, sent out to a bulk email list, it would have limited effectiveness in identifying a leak.
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Concerning the stock liability..Exactly

However, the original e-mail was an internal Apple e-mail, as I read the Arstechnica article, that was then forwarded individually. If you are watching every bit that passes through your e-mail system, it becomes an easy item to look for.
 
Thank you, arn.

I have complained in the past about your decision on what stories to call "Page 1" stories vs. "Page 2" stories. I thank you for specifying in the story your reasoning on why you put this one of questionable veracity on page 1. To me, that simple disclaimer makes it perfectly acceptable to be on page 1. (i.e. you are basically saying "I'm not sure about this, but it's on a big enough source that I'm putting it on page 1.")
 
SeanMcg said:
However, but the original e-mail was an internal Apple e-mail, as I read the Arstechnica article, that was then forwarded individually. If you are watching every bit that passes through your e-mail system, it becomes an easy item to look for.
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Sure, Apple do record pretty much all correspondance so any employee would be a fool to use their Apple email accounts to forward it on. But there would be ways around that.. open any kind of secure connection to their home machine, then send the message from there.
 
pale9 said:
remember how leopard was officially on track until it was officially delayed until oct. a week later? well, until i hold the iphone and/or leopard in my little clammy hands it is all gobbledigook.
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For all we know the feature complete version at WWDC will really be complete. Just, Apple won't start selling it to the public until October to keep it from removing too much hype from the iPhone. So in reality, Leopard may have been "on track." And, if I remember correctly, that was an Apple spokesperson who stated to some analyst that it was on track, not an Apple PR release. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
 
SeanMcg said:
3) Anyone who gambles 7-figure sums in the stock market on a rumor site deserves to lose that money.
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That wasn't someone gambling money based on stock market rumor. That was someone holding huge amounts of Apple shares, with a stop-loss order, which were automatically sold when the stock dropped from $109 to under $104.

Which is a good strategy just in case something really bad happens to a company, but goes wrong in a case like this.
 
That was the phoniest email ever....

Imagine the biggest launch since 1984 being postponed with a stupid email notice like that and from "Bullet New"...whatever.

An annoucement like this would have been precisely choreographed.


From: Bullet News
Date: May 16, 2007 9:09 AM CDT
To: [redacted]
Subject: Mac OS X Leopard and iPhone Delayed

Mac OS X Leopard Delayed Until January
iPhone Delayed Until October

REGIONS: Asia-Pacific, Canada, Europe, Japan, Latin America, United States
GROUPS: AppleCare, Retail

Apple issued a press release today announcing that iPhone which was scheduled to ship in June, has been moved to October and the release date for Mac OS X Leopard has been moved to January next year. A beta version of Mac OS X Leopard will be given to developers at the Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC).
 
whooleytoo said:
Sure, Apple do record pretty much all correspondance so any employee would be a fool to use their Apple email accounts to forward it on. But there would be ways around that.. open any kind of secure connection to their home machine, then send the message from there.
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Maybe, but if someone leaked this, do they seem particularly bright? I work for an application development company, and we have some brilliant people when it comes to coding. When it comes to their machines...not so much. So I don't make assumptions about people just because they work for a technology company.

gansher729 said:
That wasn't someone gambling money based on stock market rumor. That was someone holding huge amounts of Apple shares, with a stop-loss order, which were automatically sold when the stock dropped from $109 to under $104.

Which is a good strategy just in case something really bad happens to a company, but goes wrong in a case like this.
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Fair enough. I would think, though, that Apple's volatility, i.e. vulnerability to rumors, would mean a different stop-loss strategy. But, that's me, and I'm definitely not a stock market guru.
 
This may be fake but it's also eerily reminiscent of a few months ago when there were rumors of Leopard being delayed.Apple denied it right up to the last minute then announced the delay..

This could be true.
 
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