iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?

[jasewilk]

So... 9-26-07, 7:45am and nothing. I'm beginning to wonder if this update is real. Or if it's all a rumor. Just kidding, I've seen the screen shots with the WiFi Store, so there has to be one right? Right?

Also, iTunes is still down, meant to mention that. is the error eeryone receiving 11333? Just wanna make sure it's the store not me.

 

[BLACK MAC]

I serioulsy doubt it will be out today. I am thinking tomorrow of Friday. But I hope they do include other features other then the ITMS. Some picture messaging would be nice.

Also, iTunes is still down, meant to mention that. is the error eeryone receiving 11333? Just wanna make sure it's the store not me.

Mine is working just fine.

 

[Marcjcd]

Mine is working just fine.

This is actually WORSE then the release! At least then we knew the date. Now we just sit here every day wondering and hoping and following... LIKE SHEEP!!!

For everyone's sake I hope this update is more then the WiFi store and TV out (I agree with the earlier post, what do I need TV out when I have HD and DVD and Blueray). If we have all sat here for 2 weeks awaiting this update and its a simple addition to Apple's wallet there will be some angry postings!!!

 

[Breesha]

This is actually WORSE then the release! At least then we knew the date. Now we just sit here every day wondering and hoping and following... LIKE SHEEP!!!

For everyone's sake I hope this update is more then the WiFi store and TV out (I agree with the earlier post, what do I need TV out when I have HD and DVD and Blueray). If we have all sat here for 2 weeks awaiting this update and its a simple addition to Apple's wallet there will be some angry postings!!!

We ARE like sheep. How sad. We've all become prisoner to the coolest gadget on the planet. Guess it could be worse

I'm telling you, I can hardly wait for this update. It's like Christmas!...you don't know what you're gonna get.

.....but I'll get my hopes up, only to get socks or something.

 

[sanford]

We ARE like sheep. How sad. We've all become prisoner to the coolest gadget on the planet. Guess it could be worse

I'm telling you, I can hardly wait for this update. It's like Christmas!...you don't know what you're gonna get.

.....but I'll get my hopes up, only to get socks or something.

"iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?" Would someone please change the title of this thread. Change "soon" to something like "whenever".

In the meantime, you may go buy: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playlistId=149240&s=143441&i=149212 the traditional iTunes way. I think it's fitting.

This is actually WORSE then the release! At least then we knew the date. Now we just sit here every day wondering and hoping and following... LIKE SHEEP!!!

Welcome to Apple, brother.

 

[GTiPhone]

Here is food for thought as we await a basically useless update:


1. Steve Jobs says that they will upgrade and improve the iPhone and bring great new things to it as time goes on. (he never defines the frequency with which this would happen)

2. Steve Jobs says that we should expect technology to advance at rapid rate and that there will always be a new version (and price change to previous version) shortly after the release of the last version, on any product.

3. 3 months after the launch of the iPhone (actually 9 months if you consider it has NOT changed since we saw it unveiled), we have no support, no improvements, no bug fixes, no added features. Forget new and exciting Apps (well don't forget them, just use installer.app instead of holding your breath).

 

[Fuchal]

I would consider tv-out, ipod touch controls, etc etc some additional features. He said by the end of the month. Obviously it will be released Friday afternoon. Just like Leopard will be released at the absolute end of October.

 

[sanford]

I would consider tv-out, ipod touch controls, etc etc some additional features. He said by the end of the month. Obviously it will be released Friday afternoon. Just like Leopard will be released at the absolute end of October.

Fuchal, you've been on these forums too long to have forgotten:

Q2 200X = last day of second quarter of year stated.
Spring 200X = last day for formal calendar season of year stated.
End of month = last possible minute of last day of month.
Later in week or month = any time between now and then.

At the Sept. 5th iPod announcement, Jobs said "later this month" for the iPhones WiFi Store. In the unlocking press release Apple stated, "later this week" for the firmware update. So by Applespeak, these is not very last possible moment terminology. Friday afternoon is the event horizon, but it is unknown whether or not we must actually pass through the event horizon to get the update, as it may exist somewhere this side of the event horizon.

 

[cgray24]

There is also the possibility bugs were found after his statement and the update wont show up for weeks.

Common in development like this.

And dont say he would have to make an announcement. He doesnt have to do anything. Including release it at all.

It also could be a pretty big update and hes waiting on iphone sales to stale a little then release it to refresh interest.

They already have our money, their main goal in any new firmware release will be revenue generators and features which will spur new sales.

 

[Fuchal]

Fuchal, you've been on these forums too long to have forgotten:

Q2 200X = last day of second quarter of year stated.
Spring 200X = last day for formal calendar season of year stated.
End of month = last possible minute of last day of month.
Later in week or month = any time between now and then.

At the Sept. 5th iPod announcement, Jobs said "later this month" for the iPhones WiFi Store. In the unlocking press release Apple stated, "later this week" for the firmware update. So by Applespeak, these is not very last possible moment terminology. Friday afternoon is the event horizon, but it is unknown whether or not we must actually pass through the event horizon to get the update, as it may exist somewhere this side of the event horizon.

Apple likes to release updates on Friday evenings, historically.

Plus, I'm giving them the most time to get things right, since Apple obviously has no iPhone quality assurance at all after going through 4 bad iPhones at the Apple Store yesterday.

 

[sanford]

Apple releases all over the map. The last two iPhone updates have been Tuesday afternoons, and they weren't hurry-up rushed-out fixes, either.

The Friday evening release tradition is a myth. Really, if you look back, there aren't many Friday evening drops from any tech company.

It may be Friday, but that could be just because they pegged this one to Friday. It is still unusual however for Jobs and Apple to say "later" in the month and mean last business day, as when they mean the last business day of the month, they always say "by the end of the month" or "by the end of September [or whatever month] -- that's always then last business day. But they keep saying "later", which makes me think before Friday is the scheduled date, or as soon as absolutely possible when they finish everything and test it, Friday being the latest day they'll release. I know that all sounds silly, but large high-profile company's have a public terminology and they typically use it to a standard, often even a documented standard.

Also the timing of Monday's press release about unlocked phones. PR people, of which I was one and know many still doing PR, will tell you if you need some event to sink in with people you announce it about 36 - 48 hours in advance, mostly to give the press time to run it and people time to pick up on it -- and you always hope war doesn't break out or something like that, as you'll get no press -- but if you send out your release four or five days in advance, the daily and hourly press will cover it within 24 hours, keep mentioning it, if you're lucky, through hour 36 to 48, then drop it. And by the day of the event two or three days later, everyone will have totally forgot they were invited, some product goes on sale, or they were warned about something. So if it is Friday, Monday's release timing was bad PR timing.

Apple likes to release updates on Friday evenings, historically.

Plus, I'm giving them the most time to get things right, since Apple obviously has no iPhone quality assurance at all after going through 4 bad iPhones at the Apple Store yesterday.

 

[mani]

Why can't they just announce a release date like everyone else?

 

[anfield11]

Also, iTunes is still down, meant to mention that. is the error eeryone receiving 11333? Just wanna make sure it's the store not me.

iTunes is working fine for me in Canada....with one exception. Under gifts, it will allow me to buy Gift Certificates, but when I try the "Gift Specific Music" option I get unknown error (-9843). Any ideas?

 

[nickbates]

Why can't they just announce a release date like everyone else?

Because if something happens and they can't make that release date, all of you impatient whiny brats will have an even bigger fit than you are having now!

Seriously, you all really need to get a life; Get out more, get a girlfriend or something...

 

[sanford]

Why can't they just announce a release date like everyone else?

Because they are Apple. It's kind of like religious faith; you can't prove a good reason why, you just have to take it as a given.

As for iTunes Store, fine if a little slow for me, but I didn't check this morning. Two different Store problems noted by two different posters could be completely random and unique to them, related to taking parts of the Store down for maintenance unrelated to imminent release of iPhone update, or for maintenance directly related to release of iPhone update today. Toss a coin a few times; that will give you far better odds than any guess I could give you.

Oh, wait, let me go find my Magic 8-ball. Asking that 8-ball lead to my asking my wife out on our first date, seventh anniversary coming up and three kids (yes, we're stopping at three!). It's never been wrong about anything I've asked it, I swear. So might as well give it a shot.

UPDATE: Asking 8-ball "Will expected iPhone update with WiFi Music Store be released today?" Answer, "Yes". That's pretty solid for this particular 8-ball, really, usually I get an "Ask Again Later" or "Can't Tell You Now" and have to ask the question again in an hour or so.

Because if something happens and they can't make that release date, all of you impatient whiny brats will have an even bigger fit than you are having now!

Seriously, you all really need to get a life; Get out more, get a girlfriend or something...

Propensity of individual to tell people to "get a life" or "get a girlfriend" is inversely related to the odds of his actually possessing either.

 

[Danny Futuro]

Seriously, you all really need to get a life; Get out more, get a girlfriend or something...

My girlfriend is also anxiously awaiting the update.

 

[nickbates]

Propensity of individual to tell people to "get a life" or "get a girlfriend" is inversely related to the odds of his actually possessing either.

No, I just think it is pathetic that so many people here whine and complain over a "rumor" and then get so disappointed when their update didn't hit at midnight (just because one guy claimed to have heard from a friend that he heard on CNN that Apple was going to brick phones at midnight!?!? Give me a break!) so imagine the disappointment if Apple said "it will be released on the 27th" and then there is a last minute bug and they delay it a day.... everyone here will go ape-****!

And to me, that means, you all spend WAY too much time on these forums, speculating then being disappointed instead of being productive or spending quality time with friends, girlfriends, wifes, etc. And judging by the amount of responses you make Sanford, this includes you! I bet your wife would appreciate you more if you spent less time on these forums...

Incidentally, up until recently, I worked with a major music manufacture with a partnership with Apple and we stopped giving release dates on our products (midi keyboards, microphones, music software, etc.) because of this very reason; because people get so disappointed if we couldn't make the "hard" release date... so most companies now actually do say "later in the month" or "Sometime soon".

Now, off I go as I have to write some music with my girlfriend...

 

[bbehringer]

Also, iTunes is still down, meant to mention that. is the error eeryone receiving 11333? Just wanna make sure it's the store not me.

Yeah iTunes is down for me probably just the network i dunno

 

[Bernie-Mac]

Because if something happens and they can't make that release date, all of you impatient whiny brats will have an even bigger fit than you are having now!

Seriously, you all really need to get a life; Get out more, get a girlfriend or something...

Well i am in college right now in Moraga, CA and my girlfriend is 500+ miles away in Las Vegas so i have an excuse lol

 

[Breesha]

Propensity of individual to tell people to "get a life" or "get a girlfriend" is inversely related to the odds of his actually possessing either.

I second that. Point that "high-powered" perception on yourself, Nick.

 

[GTiPhone]

Why can't they just announce a release date like everyone else?

That would make too much sense....


Seriously, just for the peace of mind for users of the product, just come out and say, we're releasing the update on Friday, Sept 28th, sometime late in the afternoon. Period. Done. People can stop crashing their servers from checking for updates every 5 mintues.

 

[mrzeve]

What time of the day were the previous updates released?

 

[Klaxons2012]

No, I just think it is pathetic that so many people here whine and complain over a "rumor" and then get so disappointed when their update didn't hit at midnight (just because one guy claimed to have heard from a friend that he heard on CNN that Apple was going to brick phones at midnight!?!? Give me a break!) so imagine the disappointment if Apple said "it will be released on the 27th" and then there is a last minute bug and they delay it a day.... everyone here will go ape-sh*t!

Chances are you're one of the millions of anti-iPhone ninnies that attempt to elevate yourself by demeaning everyone else for being concerned for their investment. People here aren't complaining because it's the thing to do or we have nothing else better to do. I can say as an iPhone owner i'm disappointed with Apple currently for making us wait so long for the wifi music store. iPod touch owners have been on it and the firmware is obviously there.

iPhone owners have been on a rollercoaster for the past three months. We've weathered price cuts, rumors of 3G phones and the like and we've stood by our product instead of simply selling it or returning it. We're owed this update and it's become such a sought after update we're more concerned than normal about it. The fact that no rumors or anything are coming out about it is adding fuel to the fire. Is it pathetic?

I think you should step back and wonder what's more pathetic, trolling on a message board or waiting for a vital update? Hmmm.

And to me, that means, you all spend WAY too much time on these forums, speculating then being disappointed instead of being productive or spending quality time with friends, girlfriends, wifes, etc. And judging by the amount of responses you make Sanford, this includes you! I bet your wife would appreciate you more if you spent less time on these forums...

I'm not sure how slow you type, but i usually spend about ten minutes on this forum. I doubt people are here all day. I think making personal attacks on people's lovelives are uncalled for. It doesn't make you better because you're apathetic towards a product.

 

[Peace]

That would make too much sense....


Seriously, just for the peace of mind for users of the product, just come out and say, we're releasing the update on Friday, Sept 28th, sometime late in the afternoon. Period. Done. People can stop crashing their servers from checking for updates every 5 mintues.

Instead they would crash the servers in the afternoon of Friday , Sept. 28th. As foretold in advance.

 

[sanford]

My girlfriend is also anxiously awaiting the update.

As is my wife, so I think we can anecdotally establish that preoccupation with this iPhone update is unrelated to failure in the romance department.

How much you want to bet the 8-ball is going to be wrong for the first time today? Grr.