Can't argue against this, also, makes sense seeing as the holiday shopping season is here.
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iPhone SE 4 Rumored to Feature 6.1-Inch LCD Display With Notch
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Agree. Apple is about streamlining production for maximizing efficiency, aka using existing components. They wouldn't be bothered redesigning the shell and screen just for the cheapest (lowest margin) iphone. It will be just the XR with probably an A16 or A17 inside.
Can't come soon enough...
Honestly, I'd love to see a more modern apple lineup.
I don't like the sloppy nature of having a mixture of old (M1 Macbook Air, M2 Macbook Pro, Base iPad, iPhone SE 2022) and new ones.
I'd love to see a more coherent lineup in 2023 and I'd really love to see a redesigned Mac Mini.
Honestly, I'd love to see a more modern apple lineup.
I don't like the sloppy nature of having a mixture of old (M1 Macbook Air, M2 Macbook Pro, Base iPad, iPhone SE 2022) and new ones.
I'd love to see a more coherent lineup in 2023 and I'd really love to see a redesigned Mac Mini.
People want big phones. The XR / 11 is big and even if Apple put USB-C on it, I’d imagine with a 5-6 year old chassis (by 2024) they’ll be able to fit that in ok.
I think the reports of dynamic island being on an it are unlikely though.
This is the company that still sells the chassis of 2014 in the 4.7 inch Touch ID SE3.
Also with a - presumably - cheap to repair LCD screen, this phone is going to be great in emerging markets (and for anyone who just wants a relatively cheap modern iPhone).
I wonder if the XR chassis will be redesigned similar to the 14 ie opens on both sides.
I think the Xr design is a logical choice for the next SE. I’m on a 13 mini now, but my 11 was one of my favorite iPhones, and I’ve had almost every model since the original. It wasn’t flashy, but it was wonderfully functional. The Xr sold well until the day it was discontinued. I think an updated Xr would satisfy many people who just want an affordable iPhone. I’d love to see the mini resurface at some point though.
No, there is no relevant market for small phones.
Yes, it was. I’m talking about when the SE was introduced.
And see the conversation context of my comment.
6.1 isn’t that large. And as you saw with the mini and the sales of cheap but other android devices: there is no market.
Exactly. Consumers were given a small size option in the 12/13 Mini and didn't bite. The SE is the value / entry option.
Apple will stick to single lens for the lowest tier iPhone. If they put two lenses, less people would be tempted to spend more on the more expensive iPhones. It's about upselling. The same reason Apple is not giving telephoto lens to non-Pro iPhones.
That’s strange. The standard iPad has only gotten about 6-7% bigger. Not sure why Apple wouldn’t call that portable anymore.
But in any case, yeah things change. Obviously, the SE has gotten bigger despite how Apple introduced the line.
They do it on purpose for 2 reasons:
1) makes it look thinner than it actually is (Ive design)
2) forces you to buy a case lol
No need or desire for full screens or face ID, a 5S body style and rectangular screen with top and bottom bezels and a home button for me, please. 
Can we please stop perpetuating the notion of Apple doing these never-done-before iPhone hybrid designs for the SE? They are not happening. Never have, never will.
iPhones with new designs and/or new hardware start at $799 in 2022. $429 is not enough to cover r&d for anything more than a limited spec bump and new color options using an old iPhone design and mostly older hardware.
End of story!
That phone would end up selling very well. The 6.1" screen will make it so the people who have trouble with small text on the current 4.7" screen will no longer have that problem, and 5G connectivity will help with coverage.
I know it will be behind in terms of screen quality, screen resolution, and cameras, but a lot of people out there can deal with the lower specs because of the iOS ecosystem.
I know it will be behind in terms of screen quality, screen resolution, and cameras, but a lot of people out there can deal with the lower specs because of the iOS ecosystem.
If this is true, it is terrible for the accessibility community.
Many voiceover users strongly prefer devices with home buttons. It helps people with no vision to find the bottom of the device quickly and to navigate to the home screen and app switcher with much more accuracy. Apple is well aware of this fact.
I’ll be surprised if they discontinue the home button on every model. Voiceover users are a large market. The V.A. provides veterans who lost their sight in combat with apple devices, and a lot of occupational therapists recommend apple because of its accessibility support.
But I suppose progress will march on despite the objections of late adopters.
Many voiceover users strongly prefer devices with home buttons. It helps people with no vision to find the bottom of the device quickly and to navigate to the home screen and app switcher with much more accuracy. Apple is well aware of this fact.
I’ll be surprised if they discontinue the home button on every model. Voiceover users are a large market. The V.A. provides veterans who lost their sight in combat with apple devices, and a lot of occupational therapists recommend apple because of its accessibility support.
But I suppose progress will march on despite the objections of late adopters.
Small works much better with a case. I don’t care about a big screen if it breaks every time I drop it. The current SE is already on the chunkier side. Took a while to adjust from the nimble 5s form factor 1st gen SE.
Let’s ask for a separate SE Mini! Until then I’m hanging onto my 13 Mini till the bitter end…
Why does everyone assume it’s an Xr, when the 11 also had an LCD screen.