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iPhone to Verizon Wireless?
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They're about the same pricewise. However, my company gets discounts from both AT&T and Verizon. Where we only get a 15% discount on our voice plan for AT&T, we receive a 17% discount off the entire monthly bill from Verizon. Currently, I pay $75/month for my iPhone on AT&T. When I was on Verizon with my BB, I was paying roughly $60/month.
An analyst (how credible - I don't know) figures that AT&T could lose up to 40% of its customers if Verizon gets the iPhone. I can only imagine how awesome AT&T's network would be if that many people flocked to Verizon. It would probably entice me to stay with AT&T. I am sure the complaints about VW's network would go through the roof. I would never consider Verizon until its LTE network is rolled out.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...-of-iphone-users-to-verizon-says-analyst.html
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...-of-iphone-users-to-verizon-says-analyst.html
EDIT: That's incorrect. He said they would loose up to 40% of the iPhone customers. Basically 6 million subscribers.
While that's a significant number, it's not that much when you consider a few things:
1) Verizon already has 88 million subscribers, the increase is only 6.8%
2) Not all of them would switch in one day, based on contract renewal dates it would most likely be a migration spread over 2 years
3) Family plans will keep some from switching
4) This number is an estimated high, not necessarily what reality will be
It's of iPhone users only, so a subset.
But, yes, it seems high. Probably 50% of iPhone users on AT&T are eligible to switch in a given year (given 2 year contracts), maybe a bit more, so that suggests that 70-80% of those customers would switch to get to 40%. Seems unlikely, since some have family plans, some have work discounts, and some may actually be reasonably happy with AT&T. And it's not like they can bring their phone--their going to have to buy a new one. 15% (30% of the 50% eligible) seems like a more realistic number.
competition should lead eventually to cheaper plans
as far as service goes that is going to vary on region/area
but at the end of the day competition is a good thing it breeds improved services and pricing for consumers
i've never understood the backlash on this forum every time someone brings up verizon, it is as if they were getting a cut from ATT or something as an iphone user, i don't care what carrier the phone is on as long as services are provided, the more the merrier i say
as far as service goes that is going to vary on region/area
but at the end of the day competition is a good thing it breeds improved services and pricing for consumers
i've never understood the backlash on this forum every time someone brings up verizon, it is as if they were getting a cut from ATT or something as an iphone user, i don't care what carrier the phone is on as long as services are provided, the more the merrier i say
Honestly, I have a feeling that verizon would enforce a fair usage cap on the iPhone data plan. VZW has already stated in the past that they are looking to go to tiered data eventually.
And if an LTE iPhone comes out for sure they will enforce a data cap on it. They would most likely do this for 1) The profit for people going over data 2) Because they are greedy.
That would actually cause AT&T to react by either 1) Enforcing the same type of usage policy (Because AT&T and Verizon tend to follow each other sometimes with policies like this) or 2) AT&T would actually leave the Data for the iPhone at unlimited and use this to their advantage to undercut sales for Verizon.
This sorta happens in the UK because 02 for example offers Unlimited data for the iPhone while Vodafone doesn't.
I Don't claim to know the future and i could be wrong. But based on how VZW and AT&T have made moves in the past. This shouldn't be too far from the mark
And if an LTE iPhone comes out for sure they will enforce a data cap on it. They would most likely do this for 1) The profit for people going over data 2) Because they are greedy.
That would actually cause AT&T to react by either 1) Enforcing the same type of usage policy (Because AT&T and Verizon tend to follow each other sometimes with policies like this) or 2) AT&T would actually leave the Data for the iPhone at unlimited and use this to their advantage to undercut sales for Verizon.
This sorta happens in the UK because 02 for example offers Unlimited data for the iPhone while Vodafone doesn't.
I Don't claim to know the future and i could be wrong. But based on how VZW and AT&T have made moves in the past. This shouldn't be too far from the mark
I doubt pricing will change much. They both have the same Blackberry offerings [give/take a model], and they're the same. I suspect a Verizon iPhone would be the same...
I hope they end up offering to all the carriers at some point. AT&T is fine for me, and won't change. But I know of a few people who don't get AT&T in their area, or are already locked into Verizon, and don't want the ETF.
This whole infighting of Verizon is better and vice-versa is ridiculous. Same with the Android vs iPhone thing. If you like one better, great. If not, oh well...in the end, who cares, so as long as you like what you have...
I hope they end up offering to all the carriers at some point. AT&T is fine for me, and won't change. But I know of a few people who don't get AT&T in their area, or are already locked into Verizon, and don't want the ETF.
This whole infighting of Verizon is better and vice-versa is ridiculous. Same with the Android vs iPhone thing. If you like one better, great. If not, oh well...in the end, who cares, so as long as you like what you have...
The pricing between AT&T and Verizon will likely be competitive. As to performance, that's going to depend on where you are. People with marginal AT&T coverage may do better with Verizon and vice versa. If LTE outperforms 3G, Verizon may end up having better performance in a couple of years as their implementation of that protocol becomes more widely available.
the difference is you don't have people willing to sleep in front of stores to get the latest blackberry or break current contracts to get a blackberry, if ATT or Verizon or some other carrier decide they want to cut into the other guy's market share it could spark a bit of a price war, whether that translates into lower prices or getting more for what you pay that reamains to be seen
I imagine pricing will be competitive.
The biggest drivers would be end user experience and coverage. Based on all the Verizon commercials, they have a much larger 3G coverage and would probably attract consumers in those areas who are only able connect on ATT's slower edge network.... especially since they're paying $30 for data.
The biggest drivers would be end user experience and coverage. Based on all the Verizon commercials, they have a much larger 3G coverage and would probably attract consumers in those areas who are only able connect on ATT's slower edge network.... especially since they're paying $30 for data.
True, but AT&T and Verizon still don't have a history of cutting prices against each other. Now if Sprint actually gets the iPhone, that will be something!!
that is true, but they also have never been in direct competition like this either, offering an identical product that people are tripping over themselves to get, i can imagine that there have been meeting to develop strategies on how to make a big customer grab from the opposition and how to prevent one as well
in the end the customer is the one who wins
It all depends on where you live. The price probably won't be much different, but coverage may be. At my aunt and uncle's house on a lake, you can't get any AT&T signal for miles but you can get Verizon service. So if one of them had been waiting for iPhone on Verzion, they're in luck. I'm sure there are other situations like that around the country in less-populated areas.
Hopefully a few AT&T subscribers will leave for Verizon and free up bandwidth on AT&T. I will also be interested to see if Verizon has any of the same problems with a deluge of new traffic.
Hopefully a few AT&T subscribers will leave for Verizon and free up bandwidth on AT&T. I will also be interested to see if Verizon has any of the same problems with a deluge of new traffic.
Your question assumes there will be a 2010 iPhone release on Verizon; you assume too much.
look at the etf or what ever its called. they bitch and said Verizon is better yet it cost more on Verizon. people just say random ****. then att is faster and has just as good coverage. of course some places Verizon may have a bit better service and vis a versa but people really dont know what they talkin about.
As far as competition........ If this is a sample.
I hope I have the prices right.
Verizon raised their smartphone disconnect fee to $350.
Then, AT&T followed and raised theirs from $175 to $325.
I hope I have the prices right.
Verizon raised their smartphone disconnect fee to $350.
Then, AT&T followed and raised theirs from $175 to $325.