After seeing what Apple has provided us with in the past 5 years I used to think this was on purpose, but now I realize it's only sheer laziness, just like their iPhone 8 release... they took 5 seconds to figure out space on the bottom of the original Magic Mouse and just plugged it in. "Redesigning" it so the charge works at the front so it was usable was "too much work".
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After seeing what Apple has provided us with in the past 5 years I used to think this was on purpose, but now I realize it's only sheer laziness, just like their iPhone 8 release... they took 5 seconds to figure out space on the bottom of the original Magic Mouse and just plugged it in. "Redesigning" it so the charge works at the front so it was usable was "too much work".
But more generally, also if he actually meant "I don't want any way of interacting with Apple mobile devices different than fingers" (spoiler: he did not)...why the f* care?! He was not god and he's been dead now for 5 years, why should his 10 years old opinion matter in 2017?
I think it’s misleading to constantly bring up Steve Jobs to dismiss the use of a stylus. Yes Steve had a very good point about the stylus, but that was for a different time when all we had were pda’s, windows and blackberry. I think all the quick rejections of even the notion of a stylus also rejects any of the possible benefits of using one.
For example, at work when on the phone, say I tap the screen with a stylus to wake a “quick note” screen where I scribble “meeting, 10/13/2017, 3pm” and then circle it to trigger a calendar gesture to automatically add a calendar event.
I’m sure people at Apple are smart enough to come up with better examples. But again I don’t think people should quickly reject the idea of using a stylus just because of what Steve Jobs said almost 10yrs ago and act like it’s the word of god.
For example, at work when on the phone, say I tap the screen with a stylus to wake a “quick note” screen where I scribble “meeting, 10/13/2017, 3pm” and then circle it to trigger a calendar gesture to automatically add a calendar event.
I’m sure people at Apple are smart enough to come up with better examples. But again I don’t think people should quickly reject the idea of using a stylus just because of what Steve Jobs said almost 10yrs ago and act like it’s the word of god.
Cook’s Apple doesn’t innovate. It’s a “me too” org. He’s failed Steve.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
Remember when Apple got the first ever A+ from Displaymate....oh they didn't
All of the recent Galaxy OLED Smartphones have supported multiple Color Gamut Standards, including DCI-P3, Adobe RGB, and sRGB / Rec.709.
OLED Display Evolution
What is particularly significant and impressive is that Samsung has been systematically improving OLED display performance with every Galaxy generation since 2010, when we started tracking OLED displays. The first notable OLED Smartphone, the Google Nexus One, came in decidedly last place in our 2010 Smartphone Display Shoot-Out. As a result of the improvements with each new generation, in a span of just seven years mobile OLED display technology now has a commanding first place lead and continues pushing ahead aggressively. The Galaxy Note8 continues the impressive improvements in mobile OLED displays and technology. As a result, OLEDs have developed into excellent Smartphone displays that now outperform the best LCD Smartphones.
The Best Smartphone Display
The Galaxy Note8 is the latest in a new generation of OLED Smartphones that have a Full Screen Display design like the Galaxy S8. It has many major and important state-of-the-art display performance enhancements, features and functions, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever. The Galaxy Note8 is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever lab tested. So the Galaxy Note8 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade.
Here's the thing, practice makes you better typing on a touch screen AND finding the right hand holding position. For me i hold it very differently than most, i type with the left hand thumb and right hand forefinger. For some reason this was always the most comfortable for me and I am pretty fast typing (two thumbs i was horrible probably due to large hands). If you dont force yourself to get used to it and keep practicing you wont improve...
Why do people try to second guess Steve? He was right then. His word is right now. It always will be. You’re not worthy to question his wisdom.
Well said. I have an AP but only use it in very specific applications on my iPad. I just agreed with Steve that is not a nescesity but only an optional device. People just love to misconstrue his statements.
Steve Jobs was talking the smartphones that needed styluses just to use the phone. He wasn’t imagining someone trying to take notes, draw, or hand write on the iPad.
I think Apple Pencil for the iPhone would be mostly pointless, but the Apple Pencil with my iPad Pro totally made me eat my words when I actually used it. Apple Pencil is excellent if you to do more than play games and finger paint.
Actually, Apple was researching styluses (which turned out to be Apple Pencil) while Steve was there so I'm pretty sure his quote was taken out of context... at the time he introduced the iPhone, many smartphones practically required a stylus to operate. The multitouch iPhone did away with that need.
As an optional input device, I think everyone saw the potential of a stylus; especially for more precise form of input. But if a phone required a stylus as the main input device, then Steve was right; they've failed.
How silly.
So we have this beautiful device that apple spend years designing, with a pencil sticking out the bottom of the lighting port and the extended battery pack that looks like a house brick has been glued in the back. What the f%£k is going on?
So we have this beautiful device that apple spend years designing, with a pencil sticking out the bottom of the lighting port and the extended battery pack that looks like a house brick has been glued in the back. What the f%£k is going on?
If they support it, that's fine, but please don't tout it as a new feature or a big thing. Its not. Advertising the support will do more harm than good.
Oh, and don't forget that because it's optional, Apple won't even include a device silo to store it like every other pen enabled device on the planet.
Not to mention that you'll have to recharge it by sticking it in the charging port... IF there still is one by then
(*) For a decade or more, other phones with stylus have had a place to store them, and even better, often recognize when it's being pulled out and automatically start the user's preferred note taking app!
This is similar to the complaints about the charge port for the Magic Mouse being on the bottom. It gets a full day of charge during a bathroom break. A month's worth after you remember to leave it charging overnight. Total non-issue.
Most have little use for a stylus on their phone. I don't see this happening. Heck, most don't have a need for one on their tablet either, which is why the Apple Pencil isn't included with the iPad.
I'll believe it when Apple announces it. Until then, it's very unlikely.
I'll believe it when Apple announces it. Until then, it's very unlikely.
Respectfully, I am going to say that you are wrong.
Manufacturers often adopt incorrect labels for technology because it is what the public is used to. Take 4G for example. Anything less than LTE Advanced (or better) isn't meeting the ratified definition for 4G. But, because it is easy to market faster than 3G speeds as "4G", they did it anyway.
In similar regards, The Microsoft Pen, Apple Pencil, pixel book pen, and the likes actually fall under technology that is called an active pen. Just because the word stylus is sometimes used in the slang term (active stylus) doesn't make the shorthand for that generalized term (Stylus) correct.
But, since the word "stylus" (that predates technology) is better known to the public, tech media, and many classic Netwon, Palm, handspring users glommed onto the term Stylus.
Totally. We saw TONS of complains here on MR about the charging port being there. None of those complaining have ever used the thing. They didn't seem to grasp that in the time it takes you to pee, you a charge good for a day or two.
Some then went full idiot and claimed they'd use their mouse non-stop from fully charged to dead. Apparently they're able to stay up for days on end, never taking even a single couple minute break.
The reality is that the Mouse lasts for about a month on a single charge. When you get the low battery indicator, you still have a couple days worth of charge left (that's also the case with my Magic Mouse 1, which lasts another week or so when I get the low battery indicator). In those several days, it should be zero problem to find a time you can plugin the mouse for a couple hours overnight and let it charge.
Yes. It never occurred to "Steve" that using a phone with a relatively large graphic screen, for artistic expression (sketching/drawing/painting), was something artists might be interested in pursuing.
Therefore it should never be accommodated in the future.
And cars today should not have electric starters or motorized windows because "Henry" hadn't considered that in the 1900s for his Model T.
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I always thought the iPhone + should have apple pencil support. Maybe we will get a "Pro" model.
I am not discussing the Note 8 specifically, simply the term Stylus. The S Pen actually falls under the Active Pen term as well, despite having the name Stylus in it's name.
Jobs had passed away four years prior.
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And a stylus will not be required when a future iPhone eventually provides stylus support for artists and other creative people.
Don't need a stylus? Hate on styli? Simple. Don't purchase one.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
Remember when Apple got the first ever A+ from Displaymate....oh they didn't
All of the recent Galaxy OLED Smartphones have supported multiple Color Gamut Standards, including DCI-P3, Adobe RGB, and sRGB / Rec.709.
OLED Display Evolution
What is particularly significant and impressive is that Samsung has been systematically improving OLED display performance with every Galaxy generation since 2010, when we started tracking OLED displays. The first notable OLED Smartphone, the Google Nexus One, came in decidedly last place in our 2010 Smartphone Display Shoot-Out. As a result of the improvements with each new generation, in a span of just seven years mobile OLED display technology now has a commanding first place lead and continues pushing ahead aggressively. The Galaxy Note8 continues the impressive improvements in mobile OLED displays and technology. As a result, OLEDs have developed into excellent Smartphone displays that now outperform the best LCD Smartphones.
The Best Smartphone Display
The Galaxy Note8 is the latest in a new generation of OLED Smartphones that have a Full Screen Display design like the Galaxy S8. It has many major and important state-of-the-art display performance enhancements, features and functions, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever. The Galaxy Note8 is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever lab tested. So the Galaxy Note8 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade.
Perhaps you should read up on what color management actually is. Because Android doesn’t have it (Oreo finally added it, but the Note 8 isn’t running Oreo).
Having a display that can reproduce a wide color gamut doesn’t mean it’s actually rendering content correctly.