iPhone With Apple Pencil Support Could Launch 'As Early As 2019'

[dogslobber]

Yes. It never occurred to "Steve" that using a phone with a relatively large graphic screen, for artistic expression (sketching/drawing/painting), was something artists might be interested in pursuing.

Therefore it should never be accommodated in the future.

And cars today should not have electric starters or motorized windows because "Henry" hadn't considered that in the 1900s for his Model T.

Steve knew what people wanted in these devices; all he needed to do was survey the carnage of the PC scattergun approach to these pre-iPad table devices. You clearly still don't understand Steve was smarter than you, me and everybody, in every single thing we do. Steve knew what you needed better than you, yourself ever did/do/or will do.

 

[rafark]

Steve jobs would be rolling on his grave.

 

[gaximus]

View attachment 725185 Who wants a styl..

Oh. The Note is popular you say.

What a joke

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This isn't the only way to charge, its not even the preferred way. It is a nice backup way so that you charge it when remote.

 

[udayan81]

No it won't.

Lol..how do you know ? Do you sit with Cook everyday ? They added 300$ extra in the iphone X just for the higher storage capacity version, not a brand new technology storage capacity these days to justify so much over charge.

 

[dk001]

May have missed it in the thread .... My thoughts.

You would need a smaller more streamlined pencil version for the phone.

Have owned a Note or two. Last was the Note 5. Pencil was a decent add-on.
For the iPhone ... I have a Pencil for my IPP. I found after the glitz wore off, I seldom use it. Cumbersome, no real way to easily store it, and other than some graphics it is of minimal use currently.

For it to work on an iPhone, Apple would need to take a page or two from Samsung. The useful aspect of the Note was the Pencil was always there and storable. It didn't take any special linking or charging. It just worked. It could have been used for more.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

It's hardly the most greaceful charging solution ever, but let's be honest, you have to be a fkng idiot to actually allow this to happen to something you spent $99 on.

Accidents are called accidents for a reason.

The charging method for the Apple pencil is an accident waiting to happen.

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

Just when I was making fun of iPhone X & FACE ID for being like a Newton failure that Steve Jobs quickly killed,
I'm baffled.

TimMAY has really jumped the shark and run out of ideas.

Could someone please escort this bean counter to the exit door?

 

[Mike Reed]

Calling it a pencil or pen isn’t just marketing speak for the sake of marketing speak - they’re trying to communicate its intended use. When I hear stylus I generally think a pointing device or a small signature pen on one of those point of sale terminals. The Apple Pencil is meant to be used like a pencil and what they call it is just an easy, shorthand way to communicate that.

I can see how iPhone support might be useful to some folks but not for myself as I rarely need to write notes or draw in a situation or location where my iPad Pro isn’t on hand.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

This tells you that they've been watching Samsungs efforts for some time.

 

[BvizioN]

I'm not quite sure of your point. When did the border ever get in the way of the display? Er, never.

It’s not about getting or not getting on the way. It’s about having a super thick border around that makes it look quite dated, and I think for most people who are used to the thick boarder around, a tiny bit on the top won’t make any difference. Generally people who have had their hands on one have said they have not been bothered by the notch.

I believe this (as many iPhone desig features of the past) will to be a 3 stage thing.

1- I hate it
2- It’s growing on me
3- I love it.

Personally I think it looks pretty damn cool.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

[QUOTE="69Mustang, post: 25217624, member: 870396"

They both have styluses called Pen and Pencil respectively.[/QUOTE]
Styli is far more elegant.

 

[convergent]

It’s not what Steve was talking about. The previous Microsoft phones, and the Treo, etc., depended on you using a stylus for every interaction. The user interface meant your finger was too big to do much. So you didn’t have a target that was finger-sized at all. Microsoft used a sealed-down Windows interface with menus, etc. Steve wanted the pointers to be fingers. In that, he was right. Now, they’re talking about a pen for artistic purposes or text recognition, signing documents, etc.; something that is perfectly obvious on the iPad Pro. On an iPhone? Well, I wouldn’t buy it, but maybe some will.

And Steve was not accurate in his characterization then, so this is why its fun to watch the walking back excuses. There were no smartphones at the time he made that statement that 'depended on using a stylus for every interaction'. I had lots of them running Pocket PC, Palm, and Symbian. I got along, rarely needing to use a stylus. When a company mocks others' designs, then comes back and tries to re-implement the same thing... they should expect some criticism. I am not saying that Steve didn't bring some good stuff with the iPhone, but his characterization of the stylus was a gross exaggeration. Worse yet, the loss of any physical keyboard was an unfortunate casualty as well.

Seriously, if people are having issues it's because they don't pay attention when the low battery notification pops up.

Well dang... there certainly aren't many people that don't pay attention. Not sure why you'd want to be apologetic for a bad design, which is what it is. They could have easily used a design that allowed the mouse to be charged while still using it, but they chose a goofy design instead. This goes back to Apple's bias toward museum art vs. function. I'm guessing Jony Ive probably ruled out a small port somewhere visible.

 

[mmm1345]

That phenomenon is known as "Apple Narcissistic Disorder". It causes people to oppose anything that they themselves wouldn't use. Symptoms include: "wanting Apple to discontinue every product that they wouldn't buy themselves.", "using what Apple produces as the reference design of perfection","sweating and heavy breathing while reading posts on MacRumors of those who want optional things to be added".

You forgot to the annoying "iTunes is too Cluttered and it needs to be split into separate apps," people.

 

[oldwatery]

Wow...Apple leading the way as usual

 

[travelsheep]

Apple invented the Phone-Stylus in 2019

 

[69Mustang]

They both have styluses called Pen and Pencil respectively.

Styli is far more elegant.

Elegance is wasted on a person like me. Styluses it will be forever more.

 

[citysnaps]

Steve knew what people wanted in these devices; all he needed to do was survey the carnage of the PC scattergun approach to these pre-iPad table devices. You clearly still don't understand Steve was smarter than you, me and everybody, in every single thing we do. Steve knew what you needed better than you, yourself ever did/do/or will do.

"You clearly still don't understand Steve was smarter than you, me and everybody, in every single thing we do."

In. Every. Single. Thing. Wow. Just wow! I don't even know where to start. Maybe I can channel "Steve" for an answer.

Good luck...

 

[stopthenonsense]

Remember when Apple was innovative and Apple fans gleefully accused Samsung of stealing all their ideas? Doesn't feel so good to be an Apple fan does it? Not only that Apple takes 2 or 3 yrs to use those "ideas..." and have the gall to still call them "innovative."

You do realize the Apple Pencil is not a stylus right? Just like the pen on the Note is not a stylus. But if you want to go that route, I guess Samsung didn't invent it either, being that it was around long before the Note.

 

[kazmac]

And if this happens, how much more will Apple charge for a phone with Pencil or stylus capabilities?

I hope the folks that need/want this do not have to pay even more ridiculous prices for something Android and others have done for years now.

 

[^^BIGMac]

We miss you Steve

Well, he's still pissed about this...even now!

 

[convergent]

You do realize the Apple Pencil is not a stylus right? Just like the pen on the Note is not a stylus. But if you want to go that route, I guess Samsung didn't invent it either, being that it was around long before the Note.

OK, I'll play along... in the general context of this category, why is it wrong to equate an Apple Pencil, Surface Pen, and Note S-Pen as not being similarly in the category of a stylus, along with those used on older devices that Steve Jobs referred to when introducing the iPhone? When I say general context, I am meaning like an iPhone, a Windows phone, and an Android phone are all smartphones. Of course given that 10 years has passed, usage of these has progressed and changed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylus_(computing) Just so we can dispense with who invented it, The first use of a stylus in a computing device was the Styalator, demonstrated by Tom Dimond in 1957.

 

[Zxxv]

"Who wants a stylus for their phones? You've to put it away, you lose em, YUCK"

A pen, a pencil, isn't a stylus.

 

[HiRez]

It's hardly the most greaceful charging solution ever, but let's be honest, you have to be a fkng idiot to actually allow this to happen to something you spent $99 on.

In a perfect world maybe. But the real world is filled with kids and pets running around, people tossing things, cords or clothing getting snagged on things and so forth.

Saying you have to carefully place thing thing on a high shelf in a low traffic room to avoid problems is ridiculous. It’s just a terrible design, I don’t know how anyone can defend it. It really would have a photo of it in the a Book Of Bad Design if such a thing existed.

I’ve got a lot of issues with Samsung, but I do think they did the stylus right overall, for phones. Fits right into the device, out of sight when you don’t want it but always available when you need it, and no awkward charging procedures. I wish Apple would do the same (they could still sell the Pencil as a larger alternative) but their stubborn pride in defense of Saint Jobs will prevent them from doing so.

 

[Rochy Bay]

All the new staff in Cupertino is bringing the ideas from other companies. Now the iPhone is slowly becoming a galaxy. s.

Apple is reportedly "mulling" the idea of launching a stylus compatible with iPhone, believed to be a new iteration of the Apple Pencil, which is currently only supported by the iPad Pro. The rumor comes from industry sources speaking to The Korea Herald (via The Investor), which claimed that Apple engineers "have recently been working" on a new iPhone device that "comes with a digital pen," aiming for a potential launch in 2019.

The sources said that the iPhone stylus is likely to adopt a "supercapacitor stylus type" for price benefits, contrasting with Samsung's Galaxy Note pen which is based on electromagnetic resonance technology that needs additional panel components to be installed underneath the smartphone display. "A supercapacitor type is cheaper to make compared to the EMR stylus. It also offers a more pen-like feel," according to the industry sources.

Notably, Apple's current A-series chip would see a "drastic upgrade" as well in order to fuel a better handwriting experience for the stylus on iPhone.
The Apple Pencil launched nearly two years ago in November 2015 alongside the 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Apple's first stylus was designed specifically to work with the iPad Pro, and gives users the feel of using a real pen or pencil with sensors that determine the orientation and angle of the Apple Pencil, and pressure sensitivity allowing for darker or lighter pen strokes.

Former Apple CEO Steve Jobs was famously against launching a stylus for iPhones, during the original iPhone event stating: "Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, and put them away, and you lose them, yuck. Nobody wants a stylus."

Apple executives and current CEO Tim Cook have repeatedly avoided referring to Apple Pencil as a "stylus" over the years, with Cook commenting in an interview last year that "we launched a pencil not a stylus." The Apple CEO further stated, "I think that Steve would have loved" the Apple Pencil, and even gave early mention of a pencil device potentially supporting iPhones in the future: "if you've ever seen what can be created on an iPhone or an iPad with that pencil is really unbelievable."

Article Link: iPhone With Apple Pencil Support Could Launch 'As Early As 2019'

 

[mrr]

YES PLEASE! I want an Apple Pencil for the iPhone. This has been my number one request for 10 years. Works great on my iPad Pro. Perfect for drawing and note taking. Add text input too. About time Apple.