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iPhone With Apple Pencil Support Could Launch 'As Early As 2019'

bwainwright said:
The video and quotes of Steve often get rolled out whenever the Apple Pencil is discussed. However, in defence of Tim Cook, I think people are too quick to jump to those quotes/video.

At the time Steve made those comments in the keynote, pretty much all 'touch screen' devices were shockingly bad and pretty much unusable with just a finger - at least in the way we use them now. Most devices resorted to needing a stylus as the only reasonable way of interacting with the device. The iPhone changed all that, and Steve's comments were indicative of that shift in technology. Here'a device with a touch screen so good, so accurate, so responsive that you can use it entirely without a stylus, unlike 98% of devices on the market at that time. It was a game changer.

The Apple Pencil is an optional stylus. You don't need it. You can use the iPad Pro without the Pencil. But with it, you can write naturally or be more precise.

In that sense, I don't think Steve's comments are completely out of sync with the existence of the Pencil?
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Glad to know that at least some people here are aware of the concept of "context".
 
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iKrivetko said:
Glad to know that at least some people here are aware of the concept of "context".
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Context is important. But when SJ made those comments, it was a spin of reality. Not to say that Apple didn't improve the touch experience, but he also made it the only option which stuck within the Apple ecosystem for quite a while. Now finally Apple realizes that maybe having more than one input device (other than your finger) has some advantages.
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Zxxv said:
only read the upvoted on the article page and replied cause of the up votes.
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What the heck does that mean???
 
Armchair critics back at it again. The Pencil is incredible on the iPad. It's not simply a tool used to "click" on things or draw jaggy lines.

If Apple adds support for the Pencil on an iPhone, what the hell is wrong with that?
 
Hater said:
Put a Cellular chip into an iPad Mini 4 and sell it to the "artistic" people.

Instant market - 5% actual artist arty people, 95% people who are "like, so arty" and buy it because "inspired unique snowflake"
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I'd be happy to be one of those snowflakes.
 
OtherJesus said:
Armchair critics back at it again. The Pencil is incredible on the iPad. It's not simply a tool used to "click" on things or draw jaggy lines.
If Apple adds support for the Pencil on an iPhone, what the hell is wrong with that?
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Because that's the stupidity of lethargic innovation or "replivation": replicating something that was developed for on one platform to be forcibly repeated on another, whether appropriate or not.
Who would want to work with a mouse on an iDevice ?
Who would want to work with Siri/Lightning on a MacBook ?
Who would want to work with a TouchBar on an iDevice ?
Who would want to work with a bottom-side charging connector or a travel-less standalone keyboard on whatever device ?
(and who would want to work with a dromedaris battery case, slow-charging adapters, camera bulbs, bezels and notches anyway...)
 
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OtherJesus said:
Armchair critics back at it again. The Pencil is incredible on the iPad. It's not simply a tool used to "click" on things or draw jaggy lines.

If Apple adds support for the Pencil on an iPhone, what the hell is wrong with that?
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Absolutely nothing. It's an outstanding idea. Still, the Jobs worshipers will convulse with a bad case of the shakes.
 
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TechZeke said:
Steve Jobs was talking the smartphones that needed styluses just to use the phone. He wasn’t imagining someone trying to take notes, draw, or hand write on the iPad.

I think Apple Pencil for the iPhone would be mostly pointless, but the Apple Pencil with my iPad Pro totally made me eat my words when I actually used it. Apple Pencil is excellent if you to do more than play games and finger paint.
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With you on the iPad. Pencil for the iPhone is a stylus, despite what they say.
 
Zxxv said:
Click this and scroll down the page. You're welcome

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/13/iphones-with-apple-pencil-2019/
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OK, I guess you are speaking in some other language because I asked you what you meant by your comment and you've directed me to the article we are talking about. I'm good on that... already saw the article.

OtherJesus said:
Armchair critics back at it again. The Pencil is incredible on the iPad. It's not simply a tool used to "click" on things or draw jaggy lines.

If Apple adds support for the Pencil on an iPhone, what the hell is wrong with that?
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Some of the critique is because Apple is walking back a position they strongly took when announcing the iPhone... so its a little entertaining to see the walk back and hear the justifications and rationalizations. And... the writing instruments (stylus) on other platforms are also not "simply a tool used to click on things or draw jaggy lines"... nothing unique about the "Pencil" on that front.
 
convergent said:
OK, I guess you are speaking in some other language because I asked you what you meant by your comment and you've directed me to the article we are talking about. I'm good on that... already saw the article.
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Youre special arent you.
 
Sure, why not. Of course Apple's will be better because they will have waited until just the right time to employ the technology on the iPhone and then have enough courage to do it.

Apple will eventually claim they can poke a stick at a phone better then anybody else.
 
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bwainwright said:
The video and quotes of Steve often get rolled out whenever the Apple Pencil is discussed. However, in defence of Tim Cook, I think people are too quick to jump to those quotes/video.

At the time Steve made those comments in the keynote, pretty much all 'touch screen' devices were shockingly bad and pretty much unusable with just a finger - at least in the way we use them now. Most devices resorted to needing a stylus as the only reasonable way of interacting with the device. The iPhone changed all that, and Steve's comments were indicative of that shift in technology. Here'a device with a touch screen so good, so accurate, so responsive that you can use it entirely without a stylus, unlike 98% of devices on the market at that time. It was a game changer.

The Apple Pencil is an optional stylus. You don't need it. You can use the iPad Pro without the Pencil. But with it, you can write naturally or be more precise.

In that sense, I don't think Steve's comments are completely out of sync with the existence of the Pencil?
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YES YES YES. This x1000.
 
Providing a detailed drawing device while still improving upon industry-leading touch screen support is not the same as "making an iPhone user use a stylus".

The implication otherwise given in this article is at best unprofessional, bordering on unethical journalism.
 
bwainwright said:
The video and quotes of Steve often get rolled out whenever the Apple Pencil is discussed. However, in defence of Tim Cook, I think people are too quick to jump to those quotes/video.
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The Apple Pencil is an optional stylus. You don't need it. You can use the iPad Pro without the Pencil. But with it, you can write naturally or be more precise.
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Exactly this - often rolled out to take a cheap shot, by people who don't have a better argument. Steve's point was, he wanted a phone you could completely use without a stylus, not that styluses should never exist. If the Apple Pencil comes to the iPhone, it'll be an optional thing for people who want finer control over drawing, not something that one has to use instead of a finger.
 
This is not real, iPhone users do not want a stylus for their phone. If they did, they would have been buying up all the 3rd party styluses. This article is what you call click bait, and almost everyone here took the bait.
 
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mmm1345 said:
Remember when Apple was innovative and Apple fans gleefully accused Samsung of stealing all their ideas? Doesn't feel so good to be an Apple fan does it? Not only that Apple takes 2 or 3 yrs to use those "ideas..." and have the gall to still call them "innovative."
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All of Samsungs phones come from having insider parts supplier knowledge of every iphone prototype that will never be built. This is how the business works if you are buying parts from another company to help build your companies product.

The way Samsung does business is by stealing. Pioneer being the best of the mid 2000's for HDTV picture quality. Now who sits at the top with best hdtv's? How did this happen?

Samsung has a long checkered history of stealing Pioneers tv technology that it is using and tried to do the same thing to Apple with their own prototype phone designs. Samsung are nothing more then posers at best. You sit here on a forums talking about something you know nothing about.
 
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