iPhone X's Already-Lowered Shipping Estimates in Early 2018 May Remain Too High

[convergent]

It’s called inflation. You’d expect to pay the same price as you did 10 years ago? It was the best phone at $599 because it was the only phone. The 8 is far better then most phones on the market and that’s priced at exactly what inflation costs would be from 2007-2017. Apple isn’t cornering you into one phone priced at $999. You have cheaper options. If you want the premium tech you’re going to pay a premium price. It’s very basic knowledge.

The iPhone was hardly the "only phone" 10 years ago... not sure where you got that idea from. In your "basic knowledge", did you discover that typically prices of technology go down, not up? So in most cases you see prices stay around the same point with each cycle as the products get more features and faster. Few are going to buy a iPhone X without AppleCare because of the insane prices to replace the back of it ($549). So you are paying over $1000. I think Apple is finding that most people are not willing to spend over $1000 for a phone.

 

[dumastudetto]

Says you.
Your definition is meaningless.
The rest of the world will still compare it spec/feature wise to every other vendor's top of the line phone, (i.e. the Galaxy S8/Note).

99% of smartphone buyers do not do spec comparisons. They look at the product and what it can do for them, they look at the brand, the wide availability of walk-in support, and then they buy iPhone.

For those who already own an iPhone: iMessage. iMessage trumps all other specs for normals.

 

[JediZenMaster]

That attitude is typical of Android fans. iPhone fans are all sheep, but let me gush about my Galaxy S8 (or whatever Android device they use). Nothing new here.

I’ve always found that depressing.

Well, if you don't feel ripped off, that is your own personal view. People paying for the "brand alone" allows Apple to become more lazy. Hence the 6SSS design of the "8 and 8+." Haven't you heard of the phrase "Apple Tax?" $74 for a quick charger that is out of the box for many Android devices?

For the record, I didn't waste $ on the 6SSS design, got it as a gift. The X was a nice phone, but it's also very overpriced for what it does.

Dude I don’t care what you think and neither does anyone else really.

I just know I got a device I like. I’ll lesve the so called “Apple tax” and others posturing from the “Apple Greek chorus”. Happy new year though!

 

[bitfactory]

Pixel 2 has a better camera
Galaxy has a better screen

In 2017 there is competition

Galaxy does NOT have a better screen.. well, it does if you work at Best Buy and are used to how blown out everything looks, other than that it's much more accurate than any Galaxy I've ever seen.

 

[convergent]

I see iPhone X everywhere all the time and owners all seem delighted to be using one.

Are you sure you don't have the iPhone X commercial on loop? You see them everywhere, and all the owners are delighted? That does sound like the commercial... not reality.

I've actually yet to see a single iPhone X anywhere, and I was out in quite a few stores and such over the holidays including what seemed like a dozen trips to Best Buy.

I'll see my first one in two days when I take my daughter into the Apple Store to get the power supply on her MacBook Pro replaced because it literally melted on the back side (which wasn't visible) and shocked her when she picked it up.

 

[DoYouLikePie?]

Galaxy does NOT have a better screen.. well, it does if you work at Best Buy and are used to how blown out everything looks, other than that it's much more accurate than any Galaxy I've ever seen.

Wrong. Galaxy phones offer different display calibration options, allowing the end user to choose whether they like bold, saturated colors or a more basic, true to life pallette like the iPhone. Color accuracy is near perfect on the note 8 in basic mode. See attached.

 

[sinsin07]

99% of smartphone buyers do not do spec comparisons.

You have no proof of the above, therefore it's irrelevant.

They look at the product and what it can do for them, they look at the brand, the wide availability of walk-in support, and then they buy iPhone.

Again, pure speculation.
But what is not speculation is there will be no sign in the store for your iPhone X definition saying "ultra-premium".
Not even in an Apple store.

For those who already own an iPhone: iMessage. iMessage trumps all other specs for normals.

Your definitions of "normals" has been noted, and summarily ignored. No reference point.

 

[Netminus]

I see iPhone X everywhere all the time and owners all seem delighted to be using one.
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Apple likes to protect its margins and rightfully so.

iPhone X is an ultra-premium device and is worthy of a premium pricetag.

There's Price and Value - try not to confuse the two. iPhone is killer value. It saves me a massive amount of time.

 

[thejtray]

I signed up for the iPhone X via Verizon. I have the 256gb model as I am one that keeps his music synced and I have over 78gb of Music. The phone is a major advance over the iPhone design of the iPhone 6 and later.

The screen, FaceID, and Camera are stellar adds, but given the price tag these items on their own are probably not worth the upgrade.

I believe that too many people feel the same. 80% of smartphone buyers think of price. I would imagine the iPhone 7 or even the 6s are a better buy for a ton of people.

If Google’s values were more in line with mine I would say I would have purchased a Google Pixel 2. Last I checked that phone was $349 on Verizon.

My hope in 2018 and beyond is a new Phone OS comes out that can be an alternative to iOS and Android. I know that is a tough road to hoe, but the world needs a 3rd choice.

 

[DoYouLikePie?]

There's Price and Value - try not to confuse the two. iPhone is killer value. It saves me a massive amount of time.

IPhone is a joke compared to real productivity tools like the Note 8, though. Today with mine I have signed a contract using the s pen, recorded trades with split screen having my tracking app and exchange platform both open, and used the screen write tool to provide assistance to someone. Also, take a look at multitasking on note 8 vs iPhone x on YouTube and tell me about ram management; note 8 runs circles around iPhone x with its laughable 3 gb for 1k; so much for saying it doesn't matter as the real world tests show it absolutely does. What does the iPhone X offer?

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

These are the same analysts that got every other prediction wrong about the iPhone 8 and X.

Make enough random guesses and you're eventually bound to be right about something I suppose.

 

[nviz22]

I’ve always found that depressing.


Dude I don’t care what you think and neither does anyone else really.

I just know I got a device I like. I’ll lesve the so called “Apple tax” and others posturing from the “Apple Greek chorus”. Happy new year though!

Happy New Year to you. Nothing wrong with liking the X. If you didn't care about what I typed, then you would've moved on after just reading the original comment I made. I see tons of anti-Apple comments on the internet, especially from heavily biased Samsung folks. I don't engage with Samsung folks because I know I strongly dislike Samsung's software and it will just be a back/forth on opinion sharing with little to gain from it.

Two things will not change: you currently enjoying your iPhone X and the price tag on the iPhone X at 2:00 pm eastern today.

 

[USAJerry]

We all know that the iPhone X is a "notch" above the rest. And if Jony Ive says this is a phone worth having then by God, it's worth getting.

But in all seriousness, the phone isn't even close to being worth $1000. The only "innovation" by Apple is the fact that they did the equivalent of double clicking columns in Excel (sort of a justification thing) in their Weather App.

There is truth to other phones having tech prior to Apple implementing the same or similar tech into their devices. It amuses me when Samsung has fun with Apple in their ads and the Apple fanboys revert back to their safe spaces (and talking emojis are NOT an innovation, but yet shows the lack of focus and direction the company has on the creative side).

For the record, I have an iPhone 7 Plus and I will be holding onto that for two or three more years until the XI (or whatever it's going to be called) is rolled out.

 

[sinsin07]

IPhone is a joke compared to real productivity tools like the Note 8, though.

1: You're assuming your use case matches the person you quoted.
2: You must like something about it, else you'd be else where.

 

[Squeak825]

Put the ID-touch back and get rid of the notch.
Case closed.
//P.S.
lower the price as well with 2-300 dollars

They did...it is called iPhone 8.

 

[JediZenMaster]

Happy New Year to you. Nothing wrong with liking the X. If you didn't care about what I typed, then you would've moved on after just reading the original comment I made. I see tons of anti-Apple comments on the internet, especially from heavily biased Samsung folks. I don't engage with Samsung folks because I know I strongly dislike Samsung's software and it will just be a back/forth on opinion sharing with little to gain from it.

Two things will not change: you currently enjoying your iPhone X and the price tag on the iPhone X at 2:00 pm eastern today.

I have no regrets. Next please?

 

[Duel]

Also, take a look at multitasking on note 8 vs iPhone x on YouTube and tell me about ram management; note 8 runs circles around iPhone x with its laughable 3 gb for 1k

Before iOS11 ram management with iOS been amazing, not sure what happened with iOS11 because iPhone 7 never had problems to keep apps background with small amount of RAM.

 

[DoYouLikePie?]

1: You're assuming your use case matches the person you quoted.
2: You must like something about it, else you'd be else where.

Sounds like you've got no argument, then. I do like watching people try to justify it, you're right!

 

[Mydel]

Oh well

I bought the 256GB X on day 1 and don’t regret it. Amazing phone.

It’s not for everyone and there are other iPhones priced lower for people who don’t wonna spend so much

No one says its not a decent phone. It is just not worth over 1000 USD. I have all of the iPhones starting with first original. That would be the first generation I will most probably skip. It is not appealing enough for the amount. I hope sales wont be all that good and they will drop price to more rational level.

 

[DoYouLikePie?]

Before iOS11 ram management with iOS been amazing, not sure what happened with iOS11 because iPhone 7 never had problems to keep apps background with small amount of RAM.

27 apps simultaneously on the note 8 vs 6 on the iPhone isn't just software...lmao. First they say Android is fragmented, now it's amazingly optimized compared to ios. Which is it?

 

[nviz22]

I have no regrets. Next please?

Wouldn't expect you to based off what you typed recently. Apple could still adjust their expected sales lower even if you regretted your purchase.

 

[Dionte]

I haven’t seen a single x in person, all my friends got the 8. I got the 8 plus. It wasn’t about price for me, I just don’t like Face ID. Maybe if it had Face ID and Touch ID so one could use either or. At that price I don’t see why not.

 

[iFan83]

I got an iPhone 8 Plus the other day for free, I’m not paying $599(I’m in Canada) for a cell phone. I like the X and I think it’s really neat, just not worth the cost. So far I’m loving the 8+, so fast the newer Touch ID is just ridiculously fast, I’m coming from a 6. I don’t see how Apple couldn’t see this coming, its just a cell phone that does the same job. I’m sure soon the X prices will drop and that’ll make upgrading to it more realistic option.

I hope they don’t drop Touch ID I think I prefer it to Face ID, put it on the back and have both, we shouldn’t have to pick one or the other.

 

[Stella]

Apple reduced the price of the first iPhone because sales were on a fast downward trend.

Apple made the excuse of cheaper component prices.

Source: Mac rumours.

This line of thinking has always been proved wrong with iPhone sales.

Remember that Apple did guide for a monster quarter and did not warn otherwise.

 

[spazzcat]

Have the X, got used to the new controls. Face ID wasn't necessary, and it fails way more than Touch ID ever did.

I had face id fail twice in the week and half I had the phone. I don't ever see me going back to Touch ID phone...