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iPod Video Photo - a Fake

Its a giant conspiracy! Its a fake of a fake... but what if the original fake was a mockup of another fake seen in a fake mockup of an Apple prototype that could have been faked by... overload.

The first photo was interesting, cool and well done and the video was good fun too! Yeah it wouldn't be too hard to do but the point is this guy did it and the rest didn't and its pretty cool!
 
raggedjimmi said:
Heres a little tin foil hat theory...

What if Apple themselves made the fake iPod video? What if this was all a ploy to show that it was a fake all along? then come the next Apple show/event whatever they show a product that looks identical?

hmm.
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We can wait until Tuesday and watch the videocast of the announcement...

...unless...unless...someone puts up a fake videocast....
 
Another piece of evidence. When he draws the squiggly pattern, it is different from the squiggly on the original. It then cuts to a squiggly that does match the original. Somebody wanna take screenshots of that?
 
As was stated earlier, you are missing the point! I don't think this is meant to be the creation of the ORIGINAL image, it's just a video to show you how EASY it would be to make that original image.

Even though some people are getting frustrated, I love the flurry of excitement the fake image and this video (which I thought was really well done) are stirring up! Can't wait till Tuesday!
 
craig0ry said:
As was stated earlier, you are missing the point! I don't think this is meant to be the creation of the ORIGINAL image, it's just a video to show you how EASY it would be to make that original image.

Even though some people are getting frustrated, I love the flurry of excitement the fake image and this video (which I thought was really well done) are stirring up! Can't wait till Tuesday!
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Like someone just said. It's much easier to do if someone has already done the work for you. The video is only superficially well done... there are many, many mistakes.
 
spacehog371 said:
Another piece of evidence. When he draws the squiggly pattern, it is different from the squiggly on the original. It then cuts to a squiggly that does match the original. Somebody wanna take screenshots of that?
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Some people actually think the video is a complete fake and that the original image is still 'genuine' ?!

Yes there are many differences between the two but I think, as has been pointed out, the creator had to go back and do several steps again to make the video.
 
Now the dilemma.

Which one of these is a fake? The iPod itself, or the video?

Both are extremely convincing. It proves that the iPod could be a fake, but we don't know if it is or not because the video itself isn't free from errors.

I vote we wait until Apple shows us hard evidence. iPod 'bricks' need to ship for us to know for sure.
 
bdkennedy1 said:
If it were real, Apple would have had their lawyers pull the image from the web sites. Duh.
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But what if it were a trick to make us think it was a fake, because they hadn't released the lawyers?
Although I think your theory is a pretty good one. We'll have to test this in the future...:cool:
 
Fakes within fakes within fakes!

craig0ry said:
As was stated earlier, you are missing the point! I don't think this is meant to be the creation of the ORIGINAL image, it's just a video to show you how EASY it would be to make that original image.
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Makes sense to me--but we'd already shown by much MR discussion how it COULD be faked (I suggested that exact method with a 5G days ago), so demoing the discussion doesn't add anything to what we know about the original. The video then could be seen as merely more speculation rather than proof.

(But I actually think, from the "clever" editing, that the creator of this video intended to fool people into thinking it IS proof and into thinking it does document the original. Which it does NOT do--and which we caught almost immediately even before this thread was started--Kudos to iMeowbot :) )


TMA said:
Yes there are many differences between the two but I think, as has been pointed out, the creator had to go back and do several steps again to make the video.
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A good theory I agree--but only a theory. This video can't be taken as more than it is--it can't be taken as proof. Just a demo, and we can speculate about where the demo came from and why.


The original COULD have been faked. It's fishy (especially the barcode # and the awkward Chinese writing). Nobody should be getting any hopes up!! (Especially not about tablets and PDAs--if this is anything, it's "just" an iPod I'm sure.)

But last year's 5G image was "proven" fake by many people too. Most fakes are clearly agreed by ALL to be fake within a matter of hourse. This one is at the very least no EASY fake, despite the armchair Photoshoppers who call it one.

So I still don't think we have a definite answer either way. Suspicion, yes--a proven answer, no. This video certainly doesn't take us any closer than discussion from days ago. Nor is it the FIRST such reconstruction! Someone did a much simpler animated GIF version too. This COULD be the same guy who did the original, now doing a new slightly different fake just as an example, but it's even more fishy than the original :D And "just an example" isn't as convincing as if he'd actually documented the original image itself.

Still... fakes within fakes within fakes! What could be more fun? I mean, apart from actually having a life on the weekend, which I can safely say none of us do :p
 
Mechcozmo said:
But what if it were a trick to make us think it was a fake, because they hadn't released the lawyers?
Although I think your theory is a pretty good one. We'll have to test this in the future...:cool:
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I think we should all make mock images of products we want, post them on the internet, and then whatever gets taken down MUST be real!

:)
 
Lol

Mechcozmo said:
But what if it were a trick to make us think it was a fake, because they hadn't released the lawyers?
Although I think your theory is a pretty good one. We'll have to test this in the future...:cool:
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Yeah it's probably Steve sitting in his office doing the video to be able to really surprise everybody tuesday ;)
 
TMA said:
Some people actually think the video is a complete fake and that the original image is still 'genuine' ?!
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I do think the video is fake. I think it's one of these deals:



...plus a bit more doctoring in the lower right. That's not to say that the original image is real, only that the video isn't showing how the image was made.
 
Mechcozmo said:
Now the dilemma.

Which one of these is a fake? The iPod itself, or the video?

Both are extremely convincing. It proves that the iPod could be a fake, but we don't know if it is or not because the video itself isn't free from errors.

I vote we wait until Apple shows us hard evidence. iPod 'bricks' need to ship for us to know for sure.
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... ah, but:

Reality is the Ultimate deception!
 
Doesn't mean anything

If Apple releases a "full-screen video iPod", that's exactly what it should look like... In fact, it's hard to think of any other design than what is shown in that fake picture.

The fact that some people can make a fake picture in 15 minutes doesn't prove Apple doesn't have such a prototype in their labs or that the 6th generation iPod won't be shown to us tuesday.
 
New image--looks real to me

OK, now THIS is interesting. I just got this emailed to me from a .mac address:
 

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I'm going to do what I do best - and that involves mass amounts of cynicism

I'm not entirely convinced that we will ever see an iPod Video in this form. Here are some thoughts:

The iPod is a music device. You can run while listening to it, listen to it in the car and still drive, listen to it while you work, etc. The point is that it pretty much only engages you via audio.

An iPod video is going to engage you visually as well. That pretty much kills a lot of the portability of the original iPod. You can't really watch it in your car (unless you're not driving), You can't watch it while jogging or running (unless you're using some sort of stationary bike or treadmill), You can't...er...shouldn't watch while you're working.

This brings up another question. Say I download a 90 minute movie onto this device. Do I have to hold the device in my hands for 90 minutes? Do I set it on its side on some sort of surface? How far away can this surface be in order for the screen to appear big enough. Even on an airplane - the distance from my eyes to the tray is a bit far - wouldn't the screen seem awfully small? For that matter, if you were to hold it, wouldn't your fingers cover the screen?

Granted, I think it would be great for small featurettes - even sitcoms. But feature length movies and anything longer is going to require much more of my attention for a longer time. And I'm not sure it would be worth it to watch something lengthy on such a small screen.

To all you iPod 5G owners (I only have a 4G) - imagine watching Star Wars on your 2.5inch Screen. Wouldn't the movie lose something? Even if you could double the size of your iPod's screen - wouldn't it still be kind of small? How far away from your eyes would you need to hold it to read the opening crawl in Star Wars?

I guess my cynical question is whether or not we really need a small portable video device?

</cynicism>
 
nagromme said:
OK, now THIS is interesting. I just got this emailed to me from a .mac address:
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I have no trouble at all imagining Steve doing something like that, either :D
 
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