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You're clearly not. So you won't be purchasing it, as others will be for reasons opposite of yours. And your cup holder reason seems rather irrelevant for a reason to not purchase an iPhone, as that's not much of an argument to not consider an iPhone for the majority.

Well, might sound silly to you but I'm a daily car commuter and having an iPhone that can sit in one of my two cupholders is actually a significant feature, far more important than some hokey Face ID that's a step back from the Touch ID we've grown to love.

Not sure why you're so defensive. The X is just a gussied-up 6. This isn't new news.
 
Skip the Apple Care. When the price of insurance is 20% of the actual cost of the phone, it's not worth it. As far as the 256 GB model, it may be the only one that you have a shot of getting within the first 10 minutes or ordering, due to it's price.
 
I'm in the UK, my carrier is EE. I'm currently on a contract at £55 per month with my iPhone 7 and with the iPhone X they've shown us previews for the iPhone X 64gb at £72.99 a month with £100 upfront for the device or £77.99 a month, £50 upfront an £82.99 a month no upfront cost. These prices include all the unlimited calls and texts to any network etc plus 4G data. And yearly phone upgrades. Oh and 6 months free Apple music.

But these are just previews no discounts as they're not talking until Oct 27th. Thats when you call and use your loyalty as a bargaining chip did the same thing last year with the iPhone 7.

so i don't mind paying a lil more per month for a £1000 phone since i aint buying it outright and im already paying £55 per month for my crappy iPhone 7 lool

Those aren't discounts. Those are postponements of paying full retail. You make your 36 or 42 payments, it's not discounted.

We get the same bad deal here in the US. We used to get a $800 phone for $99. Now they play the "no money down!" game and charge crazy prices. The loss of subsidies is a crime, those of us on true 2 year contracts with an iPhone 6 now have to pay full retail for the first time, not fun.
 
Those aren't discounts. Those are postponements of paying full retail. You make your 36 or 42 payments, it's not discounted.

We get the same bad deal here in the US. We used to get a $800 phone for $99. Now they play the "no money down!" game and charge crazy prices. The loss of subsidies is a crime, those of us on true 2 year contracts with an iPhone 6 now have to pay full retail for the first time, not fun.
Never with any version of the iPhone. It was more than $99 with a 2 year contract brand new.
 
Those aren't discounts. Those are postponements of paying full retail. You make your 36 or 42 payments, it's not discounted.

Why do you need a discount, you have a bmw, trophy wife and a beach house :)

$1829 for 256gb here plus AC plus case near $2200, crazy
 
far more important than some hokey Face ID that's a step back from the Touch ID we've grown to love. The X is just a gussied-up 6.

Please refrain from making insinuations that you don't have any experience with regarding Face ID over a feature that's not even released yet.

And the iPhone X isn't even comparable to the iPhone 6. And far as the touch ID that you seem to love, it's still widely available, so let's not make it sound like Apple is forcing you with no options here.
 
Nope. People that have that kind of money has nothing better to do then to flunt it around. No care in the world.
 
1,500 $ i can buy HP 4k laptop ....

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By my math, a 256GB X with Apple Care and tax in my province comes to $2009.14 CDN. At the current exchange rate, that's about $1625 USD.
 
Planning on getting Iphone X 256gb, but no addons.

Have few questions though:

1. Is there more chance of getting an Iphone X by pre-ordering it or is there a high chance that it will be in stores on 3rd of November if I got there for the store opening?

2. Is it really worth getting £200 Apple care kit? In the worst case scenario, how much would it cost to replace the front screen?

Thanks in advance!

If you want the X on opening day I would pre-order online. Seems like Apple is leaning away more and more from long opening day lines. The store in my city wasn’t even letting people get in line for walk ups for the 8 - you had to pre order it for local pickup
 
Skip the Apple Care. When the price of insurance is 20% of the actual cost of the phone, it's not worth it. As far as the 256 GB model, it may be the only one that you have a shot of getting within the first 10 minutes or ordering, due to it's price.

What happens if you drop the phone? Iphone 8 or x is a trap that you either buy icare or pay a lot for repairement. Both sides are glass and the back glass is made and designed by a china company.

All human drop phone again and again
 
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What happens if you drop the phone? Iphone 8 or x is a trap that you either buy icare or pay a lot for repairement. Both sides are glass and the back glass is made and designed by a china company.

All human drop phone again and again

The glass back will cost less than $200 to replace, just like the front glass. Plus, even with insurance you still have to pay part of the glass replacement fee instead of the full price. So for the X, $29 for the front glass and $99 for the back. So in essence, if you drop the phone and break the back only once, it will have cost you a total of $299. $200 for insurance and $99 for back replacement.

As far as dropping, I have a case, and never broke an iPhone. A $20 case sure beats paying a ridiculous $200 for insurance.
 
The real cost is close to 1500. I can't believe anyone really wants a 64gb phone, so the only alternative is 256... which brings you TO 1,150.00.... And then for the person that can afford that amount of money, you throw in AppleCare... for the minor cost of 200.00.. which brings you to 1350.00... THEN don't forget sales tax of 8%... which brings us to 1450... let's just say 1500.... IS THAT WHAT YOUR NEXT PHONE WILL COST?
Um, actually, mine's going to cost $56.10/month (after an upfront sales tax payment) for 12 months, before I return to Apple to upgrade to next year's phone. (Apple Upgrade Program).
 
Please refrain from making insinuations that you don't have any experience with regarding Face ID over a feature that's not even released yet.

And the iPhone X isn't even comparable to the iPhone 6. And far as the touch ID that you seem to love, it's still widely available, so let's not make it sound like Apple is forcing you with no options here.

Here's what we know about Face ID:

If I am using my iPhone X as a GPS on a vacation and I've got it in a vent mount and it's pointing directly at the back seat which vent mounts tend to do, I have to remove it from the mount and point it at my face to unlock it. That's not good.

If I am using my iPhone X for Apple Pay at Starbucks and today all I have to do is lie it down on the terminal, lightly apply a thumb print, and I'm done....with the X I'm going to have to hit a button, hold the phone to my face, then lie it down on the terminal. That's really not good.

If I am awoken at 3AM and can't get back to sleep and need to do some light reading in bed in the pitch darkness on my iPhone X, I'm going to have to pray that the thousand points of light will work on my puffed and scrunched bed face lying on the pillow or get ready to hit a bunch of buttons. That's really not good.

If I am in a meeting and have my iPhone X face-up on a boardroom table so I can glance at alerts, if I get a text message and want to open it unobtrusively so as to not insult the person who is talking, instead of sliding the alerty and depressing a sly finger I have to raise the phone, point it at my face, then place it down, and then navigate to the message. That's really not good.

Those aren't 'insinuations'. Those are facts. And there are plenty more use cases where Face ID is the killer feature of the iPhone X. "Kill" as in, it kills it for me.
 
In my opinion, I really hope not many people actually pay Apple that much for the X. It really isn't worth it people, it's just a phone. And I'm saying this as someone who has run out and bought the newest iPhone every year up until now. Please people, just don't. It's going to set a new precedent and new price point for future phones as well. Next year and every year after that, the new flagship iPhone will be $1000+, if you and many people go out and pay it. Just think about that. If this launch is successful, Apple will think they can raise the price to that or more permanently and they won't take a sales hit. Don't enable them, vote with your wallet. Let's start a movement here.
 
I plan to order two iPhone X's with the 64 GB phones plus two Apple cases. No Apple Care. The old phones go to my mom and mother in law. Their old phones go to nephews and nieces. I write off the phone purchases as business expenses so part of the cost is paid for by saved taxes. I am not really sure at what price point, I will become price sensitive. I will be watching very closely the Pixel 2 from Google to see the quality. The iPhone X coming later, gives me a chance to reconsider my planned purchase should Google come out with an innovative product.
 
In my opinion, I really hope not many people actually pay Apple that much for the X. It really isn't worth it people, it's just a phone. And I'm saying this as someone who has run out and bought the newest iPhone every year up until now. Please people, just don't. It's going to set a new precedent and new price point for future phones as well. Next year and every year after that, the new flagship iPhone will be $1000+, if you and many people go out and pay it. Just think about that. If this launch is successful, Apple will think they can raise the price to that or more permanently and they won't take a sales hit. Don't enable them, vote with your wallet. Let's start a movement here.

The problem is that unless we want to suffer with our 6's and 7's for another year, we either pay $1149 for the X or $849 for the 8. The $300 delta makes the X the better choice from a cost standpoint. It's actually the 8 that is grossly overpriced.
 
Here's what we know about Face ID:

If I am using my iPhone X as a GPS on a vacation and I've got it in a vent mount and it's pointing directly at the back seat which vent mounts tend to do, I have to remove it from the mount and point it at my face to unlock it. That's not good.

If I am using my iPhone X for Apple Pay at Starbucks and today all I have to do is lie it down on the terminal, lightly apply a thumb print, and I'm done....with the X I'm going to have to hit a button, hold the phone to my face, then lie it down on the terminal. That's really not good.

If I am awoken at 3AM and can't get back to sleep and need to do some light reading in bed in the pitch darkness on my iPhone X, I'm going to have to pray that the thousand points of light will work on my puffed and scrunched bed face lying on the pillow or get ready to hit a bunch of buttons. That's really not good.

If I am in a meeting and have my iPhone X face-up on a boardroom table so I can glance at alerts, if I get a text message and want to open it unobtrusively so as to not insult the person who is talking, instead of sliding the alerty and depressing a sly finger I have to raise the phone, point it at my face, then place it down, and then navigate to the message. That's really not good.

Those aren't 'insinuations'. Those are facts. And there are plenty more use cases where Face ID is the killer feature of the iPhone X. "Kill" as in, it kills it for me.


Your first two scenarios doesn't make me Face ID "Not good" because it doesn't work to your situation. You Know what I think, I think you're trying to make scenarios to be dismissive of this new technology that you don't want accept that is going to be a reality eventually. But you still don't have experience with it to make insinuations based off scenarios that you feel are not likely, which are not entirely accurate.

Let's break this down:

Your First scenario, unlock your iPhone before you start operating a motor vehicle if you want to use the GPS feature. I'm not finding an argument here valid. That doesn't Face ID Not good.

Your Second scenario regarding Starbucks's is strictly because you don't prefer it and your not accustomed to using, but it doesn't make it any less susceptible to using Face ID as its intended. That Does not make Face ID not good.

Your third scenario you Did not research at all. Face ID has been proven to work in the dark and uses the flood sensor that will unlock your iPhone. It emits invisible light. Do you really think Apple has not invested enough research and development knowingly the face ID will be used in the dark on a regular basis by millions of iPhone users? That Does not make Face ID not good.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/13/how-iphone-x-face-id-works/amp/

Your fourth scenario, if you're in a meeting and you receive a text message, Face ID will work with the iPhone laying flat on a surface by looking at it. You don't have to pick up the phone to actually unlock The iPhone. So it's no different then if you have to use the slide to unlock if the phone was laying flat on a surface. Again, you don't have an argument here. That does not make face ID bad.

In my opinion, I think you need to research Face ID or at least read up on it more Before making insinuations (Or inaccurate scenarios) that you are stating that are not entirely accurate in your post. If you don't support face ID, I can understand that. But don't try to create scenarios that you don't have don't have knowledge on that you have not researched. It clearly shows and some of your scenarios in your post.
 
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Those aren't discounts. Those are postponements of paying full retail. You make your 36 or 42 payments, it's not discounted.

We get the same bad deal here in the US. We used to get a $800 phone for $99. Now they play the "no money down!" game and charge crazy prices. The loss of subsidies is a crime, those of us on true 2 year contracts with an iPhone 6 now have to pay full retail for the first time, not fun.

I literally said in my post there’s no discounts Lool you get a discount when you actually speak to them when pre ordering.

The prices are listed were the previews they sent people. There are no discounts listed.

And the contracts are only 24 months. And you have the option to upgrade your device yearly.
 
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The real cost is close to 1500. I can't believe anyone really wants a 64gb phone, so the only alternative is 256... which brings you TO 1,150.00.... And then for the person that can afford that amount of money, you throw in AppleCare... for the minor cost of 200.00.. which brings you to 1350.00... THEN don't forget sales tax of 8%... which brings us to 1450... let's just say 1500.... IS THAT WHAT YOUR NEXT PHONE WILL COST?

And don't forget the new wireless charger(s) your going to get... One for the living room and of course the bedroom... AND how about a 29 watt charger (for really fast charging). with the additional cable you will need for the charger... ANOTHER 200.00 BUCKS....
I'm going for the 256GB because I imagine it might not be as in demand as the 64GB. You might think that's too little storage (64GB) but I'd have gone for that in a minute on my Jet Black if they offered one. I can manage that storage. I did on the 6s Plus just fine.

As for the 29 watt charger and cable... I already have those for my iPad Pro. Did I need them? No. I wanted them so I bought them. I'm an adult with money so I can do that. My particular use cases for needing a 50% charge in 30 minutes are few so I don't see using anything but my 10 or 12 watt chargers in any case.

Wireless charging pads? Again, my particular needs must be boring and pedestrian because the only place I would need a wireless charging pad is ... nowhere. I don't need to have one. If I buy one for every room in my home, my car, my work and my favorite Burger King it will be because I want to do that not because I need to do that. If all I was after was the wireless charging I'd be looking right at an iPhone 8 right now. It has wireless charging for fewer bucks.

I don't see why it's popular to grouse about the cost of cables and accessories for Apple products. If you are buying a $1500 computer or iPhone then a charger is, what, not even 10% of the cost of the device? I'll agree that including the 5 watt charger at this point is absurd but if you've been at this a while you already have a few iPad chargers handy and they will do just fine and if you don't then spending $29 on the 12 watt charger is an investment as you'll be able to use it on the next four iPhones you own.

Honestly...
 
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