IS ANY ONE PAYING 1500 FOR X PHONE?

[Dave245]

I will be buying outright as i don't like contract, you are locked in for 24 months i don't like that as i may want to upgrade next year. Personally i think the iPhone X will be worth the price for a future generation iPhone.

 

[boltjames]

Your first two scenarios doesn't make me Face ID "Not good" because it doesn't work to your situation. You Know what I think, I think you're trying to make scenarios to be dismissive of this new technology that you don't want accept that is going to be a reality eventually. But you still don't have experience with it to make insinuations based off scenarios that you feel are not likely, which are not entirely accurate.

Let's break this down:

Your First scenario, unlock your iPhone before you start operating a motor vehicle if you want to use the GPS feature. I'm not finding an argument here valid. That doesn't Face ID Not good.

Your Second scenario regarding Starbucks's is strictly because you don't prefer it and your not accustomed to using, but it doesn't make it any less susceptible to using Face ID as its intended. That Does not make Face ID not good.

Your third scenario you Did not research at all. Face ID has been proven to work in the dark and uses the flood sensor that will unlock your iPhone. It emits invisible light. Do you really think Apple has not invested enough research and development knowingly the face ID will be used in the dark on a regular basis by millions of iPhone users? That Does not make Face ID not good.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/13/how-iphone-x-face-id-works/amp/

Your fourth scenario, if you're in a meeting and you receive a text message, Face ID will work with the iPhone laying flat on a surface by looking at it. You don't have to pick up the phone to actually unlock The iPhone. So it's no different then if you have to use the slide to unlock if the phone was laying flat on a surface. Again, you don't have an argument here. That does not make face ID bad.

In my opinion, I think you need to research Face ID or at least read up on it more Before making insinuations (Or inaccurate scenarios) that you are stating that are not entirely accurate in your post. If you don't support face ID, I can understand that. But don't try to create scenarios that you don't have don't have knowledge on that you have not researched. It clearly shows and some of your scenarios in your post.

Face ID will probably function well. It just doesn't work for my usage patterns.

 

[ABC5S]

I will be buying outright as i don't like contract, you are locked in for 24 months i don't like that as i may want to upgrade next year. Personally i think the iPhone X will be worth the price for a future generation iPhone.

You are not actually locked in. You can pay it off at any time after 30 days as per Verizon.

 

[Dave245]

You are not actually locked in. You can pay it off at any time after 30 days as per Verizon.

I’m not in the US, here in the UK I believe we are locked into a contract for 24 months, if you want to upgrade you have to pay off all the contract (which would work out more expensive) before they will let you upgrade. It’s much simpler to buy outright that way I own the device from day one and I can decide which network to go with (giffgaff, EE and so on).

 

[uwdude]

If you want the X on opening day I would pre-order online. Seems like Apple is leaning away more and more from long opening day lines. The store in my city wasn’t even letting people get in line for walk ups for the 8 - you had to pre order it for local pickup

A few years ago the scalpers with their handfuls of cash just got so bad on iPhone release day that they felt they had to do something. It wasn't like earlier releases with the fan boys in line, it was hired bums and foreign scalpers being given exact cash to wait in line over and over. It kind of ruined the experience. So now they want you to order through the site or app so they know you're a real customer and can enforce the purchase limits.

 

[4ppleg1rl]

I’m not in the US, here in the UK I believe we are locked into a contract for 24 months, if you want to upgrade you have to pay off all the contract (which would work out more expensive) before they will let you upgrade. It’s much simpler to buy outright that way I own the device from day one and I can decide which network to go with (giffgaff, EE and so on).

I've bought mine outright this year as well, I hated being stuck in a contract (I actually am still stuck in one until March, but what can ya do). Another issue with contracts is if you've got one with one company, and their signal is rubbish or there's issues, you can't switch and you're stuck with it for 2 years - most companies also come with locked phones, so you have to pay to unlock it as well.

Overall contracts are just a hassle, aren't they? Also I'm sure they charge interest as well?

 

[Dave245]

I've bought mine outright this year as well, I hated being stuck in a contract (I actually am still stuck in one until March, but what can ya do). Another issue with contracts is if you've got one with one company, and their signal is rubbish or there's issues, you can't switch and you're stuck with it for 2 years - most companies also come with locked phones, so you have to pay to unlock it as well.

Overall contracts are just a hassle, aren't they? Also I'm sure they charge interest as well?

The cost of contract is a lot more than buying outright, i've seen on EE's website that the iPhone X will start at £72.99 a month with an upfront cost of £99.99 or £77.99 with an upfront cost of £49.99, even if you take the cheapest at £72.99 times that by 24 months that's £1,751.76 add the £99.99 up front cost and the total will be £1,851.75 and that is only for the 64GB version! where as if you buy the iPhone outright it costs £999.00 for the iPhone and you can choose which network you want to go with (which sim card you get) and if you don't like that network you can just put another sim card from a different network inside, also it comes unlocked so there is no unlock fee.

I'm on GiffGaff here in the UK and i top up around £7.50 - £10 a month over the course of 24 months that is £240

So grand total for buying the iPhone X 64GB outright is £999.00 + £10 a month GiffGaff sim at 24 months = £1,239 saving a total of £618.75!

Also if you choose to upgrade to next years iPhone you don't have to worry about being in a 24 month contract!

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Here's what we know about Face ID:

If I am using my iPhone X as a GPS on a vacation and I've got it in a vent mount and it's pointing directly at the back seat which vent mounts tend to do, I have to remove it from the mount and point it at my face to unlock it. That's not good.

You're assuming that the phone needs to be directly perpendicular to your face, which is incorrect.

If I am using my iPhone X for Apple Pay at Starbucks and today all I have to do is lie it down on the terminal, lightly apply a thumb print, and I'm done....with the X I'm going to have to hit a button, hold the phone to my face, then lie it down on the terminal. That's really not good.

You're assuming that the phone needs to be directly perpendicular to your face, which is incorrect.

If I am awoken at 3AM and can't get back to sleep and need to do some light reading in bed in the pitch darkness on my iPhone X, I'm going to have to pray that the thousand points of light will work on my puffed and scrunched bed face lying on the pillow or get ready to hit a bunch of buttons. That's really not good.

You're assuming that the entire functionality of Face ID won't work in the dark, which is incorrect as it has been proven to work in the dark.

If I am in a meeting and have my iPhone X face-up on a boardroom table so I can glance at alerts, if I get a text message and want to open it unobtrusively so as to not insult the person who is talking, instead of sliding the alerty and depressing a sly finger I have to raise the phone, point it at my face, then place it down, and then navigate to the message. That's really not good.

You're assuming that the phone needs to be directly perpendicular to your face, which is incorrect.

Those aren't 'insinuations'. Those are facts.

Yeah right

 

[RickInHouston]

Sometimes the most important things are stuff your wife mentions to you without prompting:

She walked into the room while I was getting dressed for work this morning and said, "Did you know the new apple phone is $999? That's ridiculous." She then walked out of the room.

Something tells me price may be more an issue than Timmy thinks. (Of course not on these boards. All of you guys are going to pony up for one, two or three - but the general public?)

 

[Oliveira46]

The real cost is close to 1500. I can't believe anyone really wants a 64gb phone, so the only alternative is 256... which brings you TO 1,150.00.... And then for the person that can afford that amount of money, you throw in AppleCare... for the minor cost of 200.00.. which brings you to 1350.00... THEN don't forget sales tax of 8%... which brings us to 1450... let's just say 1500.... IS THAT WHAT YOUR NEXT PHONE WILL COST?

And don't forget the new wireless charger(s) your going to get... One for the living room and of course the bedroom... AND how about a 29 watt charger (for really fast charging). with the additional cable you will need for the charger... ANOTHER 200.00 BUCKS....

YES!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dannyTO]

$1727 canadian after taxes

 

[Dave245]

Sometimes the most important things are stuff your wife mentions to you without prompting:

She walked into the room while I was getting dressed for work this morning and said, "Did you know the new apple phone is $999? That's ridiculous." She then walked out of the room.

Something tells me price may be more an issue than Timmy thinks. (Of course not on these boards. All of you guys are going to pony up for one, two or three - but the general public?)

The “general public” will still buy one if they want to only time will tell.

 

[Oliveira46]

$1727 canadian after taxes

In europe is 1360€ = 1996 CAD$!!!!

 

[pat500000]

Sometimes the most important things are stuff your wife mentions to you without prompting:

She walked into the room while I was getting dressed for work this morning and said, "Did you know the new apple phone is $999? That's ridiculous." She then walked out of the room.

Something tells me price may be more an issue than Timmy thinks. (Of course not on these boards. All of you guys are going to pony up for one, two or three - but the general public?)

I didn't know you care about people's spending.

 

[4ppleg1rl]

The cost of contract is a lot more than buying outright, i've seen on EE's website that the iPhone X will start at £72.99 a month with an upfront cost of £99.99 or £77.99 with an upfront cost of £49.99, even if you take the cheapest at £72.99 times that by 24 months that's £1,751.76 add the £99.99 up front cost and the total will be £1,851.75 and that is only for the 64GB version! where as if you buy the iPhone outright it costs £999.00 for the iPhone and you can choose which network you want to go with (which sim card you get) and if you don't like that network you can just put another sim card from a different network inside, also it comes unlocked so there is no unlock fee.

I'm on GiffGaff here in the UK and i top up around £7.50 - £10 a month over the course of 24 months that is £240

So grand total for buying the iPhone X 64GB outright is £999.00 + £10 a month GiffGaff sim at 24 months = £1,239 saving a total of £618.75!

Also if you choose to upgrade to next years iPhone you don't have to worry about being in a 24 month contract!

Giffgaff used to have great sim only deals but other companies are definitely catching up! When my contract ends in March, I’m definitely gonna have a look around for some deals - giffgaff is safe but I’ve seen great deals with more data from Three and Vodafone! I just don’t know what their signal is like in my area!

I don’t think I’ll ever get a phone contract again tbh

 

[ImBuz]

YES!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DNichter]

Here's what we know about Face ID:

If I am using my iPhone X as a GPS on a vacation and I've got it in a vent mount and it's pointing directly at the back seat which vent mounts tend to do, I have to remove it from the mount and point it at my face to unlock it. That's not good.

If I am using my iPhone X for Apple Pay at Starbucks and today all I have to do is lie it down on the terminal, lightly apply a thumb print, and I'm done....with the X I'm going to have to hit a button, hold the phone to my face, then lie it down on the terminal. That's really not good.

If I am awoken at 3AM and can't get back to sleep and need to do some light reading in bed in the pitch darkness on my iPhone X, I'm going to have to pray that the thousand points of light will work on my puffed and scrunched bed face lying on the pillow or get ready to hit a bunch of buttons. That's really not good.

If I am in a meeting and have my iPhone X face-up on a boardroom table so I can glance at alerts, if I get a text message and want to open it unobtrusively so as to not insult the person who is talking, instead of sliding the alerty and depressing a sly finger I have to raise the phone, point it at my face, then place it down, and then navigate to the message. That's really not good.

Those aren't 'insinuations'. Those are facts. And there are plenty more use cases where Face ID is the killer feature of the iPhone X. "Kill" as in, it kills it for me.

These types of scenarios people like to describe are way overblown, but if you don't want the phone, don't buy it. There isn't any reason to bash others for their buying decisions. The GPS example, not sure why it would point at the back seat and not right to your face, how do you do it now? With the X, tap to wake and swipe up. At Starbucks, tap the side button while looking at it and then scan normally. Not really much different. Face ID is said to work in complete darkness, infrared has been around for a while, it'll be fine. In a meeting, tap to wake, look at your phone and read the message (the X knows when you are looking and shows you the actual message if you want). Really not that difficult.

 

[boltjames]

You're assuming that the phone needs to be directly perpendicular to your face, which is incorrect.

No, in watching the official video from Apple you can see a woman have to lurch her shoulders and face in an unnatural manner to hover over the phone close enough for her face to be read. When I am in a meeting at a conference table and want to unlock my phone, this will not be subtle.

You're assuming that the entire functionality of Face ID won't work in the dark, which is incorrect as it has been proven to work in the dark.

No, I am saying that I find it hard to believe that if I am sleeping on my side with only 60% of my puffy bed face visible and pushed tightly into a pillow that Face ID will recognize me and unlock my phone at 3 AM when I cannot sleep.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

No, in watching the official video from Apple you can see a woman have to lurch her shoulders and face in an unnatural manner to hover over the phone close enough for her face to be read. When I am in a meeting at a conference table and want to unlock my phone, this will not be subtle.



No, I am saying that I find it hard to believe that if I am sleeping on my side with only 60% of my puffy bed face visible and pushed tightly into a pillow that Face ID will recognize me and unlock my phone at 3 AM when I cannot sleep.

Point 1 is still making assumptions before actually trying the product and point 2 is just nitpicking and complaining for the sake of complaining. Thanks anyway though.

 

[Newtons Apple]

I know no one will feel sorry for me but I put $1500 worth of diesel in my Luhrs on a regular basis.

 

[boltjames]

Point 1 is still making assumptions before actually trying the product and point 2 is just nitpicking and complaining for the sake of complaining. Thanks anyway though.

We are all making assumptions before actually trying the product because the product has not been released yet.

If you do not wish to engage in discussions regarding opinions on iPhone X features, stay off the forums until mid-November.

 

[comptr]

Yes I am, I am going to be buying the 256gb X Sliver, Wireless charger, Apple Care + & a case and shield, but it does help that I did sell my iPhone 7+ back in mid September so I got some of the cost covered. Plus I am going to use Verizon Device Payments so its not much more that I was paying for my 7+, its only 7.46 more a month then what I was paying for my 7+.

 

[nviz22]

Sure, tons of Apple fans will happily pay the rising premiums for the iPhone X. I am not one of those Apple users though.

 

[Bethanie21]

Nope, happy with my new 8.

 

[eoblaed]

The real cost is close to 1500. I can't believe anyone really wants a 64gb phone, so the only alternative is 256... which brings you TO 1,150.00.... And then for the person that can afford that amount of money, you throw in AppleCare... for the minor cost of 200.00.. which brings you to 1350.00... THEN don't forget sales tax of 8%... which brings us to 1450... let's just say 1500.... IS THAT WHAT YOUR NEXT PHONE WILL COST?

And don't forget the new wireless charger(s) your going to get... One for the living room and of course the bedroom... AND how about a 29 watt charger (for really fast charging). with the additional cable you will need for the charger... ANOTHER 200.00 BUCKS....

I think that post used up all the e-ink on the internet.

Of course I'm getting a 256GB iPhone X. 1150 isn't that much more than I paid for my 256GB 7 Plus. And, yes, AppleCare, definitely. I already have a USB-C charger for fast charging.

No wireless charger. At least not yet. Maybe after Apple comes out with that pad that I can put my phone, watch, and AirPods on simultaneously. A wireless charging pad doesn't help my life out appreciably.