It still does it, it's not as bad as 8.1 or 8.0.x but it's still nowhere as smooth as iOS 7.
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Is iOS 8 bad coding or planned obsolescence?
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It still does it, it's not as bad as 8.1 or 8.0.x but it's still nowhere as smooth as iOS 7.
I agree on that, but Apple probably could have maintained the same layout for CPU and GPU and just increased it to 2 GB, without having that much of a hit. I'm not going to dwell on that any further since I'm not a hardware engineer.
That is true to some extent, but given how it's been covered by most reviewers and users on this site, I think it might be a case of those who simply don't really "push" their devices to notice it. Then you might have those that simply don't know any better or expect any more from it. I get the feeling that those who are into tech have been pretty vocal about it. But that last sentence is honestly only based on a gut feeling on my part.
Sure thing - Im probably not a power user or whatever it takes to see the RAM problems. I tend to have 2-3 tabs open and being worked on the maximum. Usually its just one. Im terrible at multi tasking
I also tend to just do one thing at a time and am anal retentive so I close apps when Im done with them and reset my device fairly regularly too.
I do play some high end games though or whatever and have always felt the Air was a very good performing tablet.
Sure thing - Im probably not a power user or whatever it takes to see the RAM problems. I tend to have 2-3 tabs open and being worked on the maximum. Usually its just one. Im terrible at multi tasking
I also tend to just do one thing at a time and am anal retentive so I close apps when Im done with them and reset my device fairly regularly too.
I do play some high end games though or whatever and have always felt the Air was a very good performing tablet.
I see.
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Has anyone tried the 8.2 beta?
I don't see it, unless my perception of lag is different from yours, which is a possibility. I put about 5 cities in the weather app. Odd behavior for sure.
Neither.
iOS 8 is simply a reflection of Apple's declining quality, sloppy quality control, and taking advantage of the strength of their brand. Knowing Apple Customers will accept less than Apple's best work and still keep buying, Apple saves vast amounts of money by shipping what they deem "good enough".
iOS 8 is simply a reflection of Apple's declining quality, sloppy quality control, and taking advantage of the strength of their brand. Knowing Apple Customers will accept less than Apple's best work and still keep buying, Apple saves vast amounts of money by shipping what they deem "good enough".
If that was the case, then Lollipop would've made my Nexus 5 slower, not faster.
I think it's only iOS that makes the device slower after each update. By the time the device is real slow, the user gets pissed and then buys a new one just because the old device was slow.
That's Planned Obsolesce.
It's too bad there isn't a down vote button on this website.
Actually IOS 8 is the vision of apples core strength. The ability to pull together functionality that existed in a more meaningful way to the user.
What you call good enough is usually spot on by Apple. With 500 millions idevices out there, nobody would expect 100% of their customers to have the '10' experience. But judging by their JD Powers surveys, not everyone things as above.
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My ipad 2 is flying along with 8.1.1. What more could I ask for? IOS 8 is probably the last operating system version it will see, but I'll be happy with that.
If Apple allowed me to remain at a particular version of iOS (or downgrade to a lesser version), then they could pump out new versions every other week for all I care.
That's great that your iPad2 is flying on 8.1.1. Unfortunately, my iPad 4 didn't fly with 7.x, nor does it fly with 8.x. Yes, 8.1 is slightly improved over 7.x but absolutely nowhere near what it was with 6.x. (I held out upgrading to 7 until the SSL fix forced me to upgrade)
I understand that some software would not be available to me if I were to remain on 6, but the performance was stellar and I could live with whatever software levels would be available for 6.
So people buy the iPhone 6 and have to have it crippled due to the existence of the iPhone 4S??
I fail to see why you call it crippled. Current IOS requires 512MB, iPhone 6 has double that size. When IOS will require 1GB, iPhone 6 will still be fine.
The post I quoted said that iOS8 is essentially coded to run in 512Mb of RAM. Therefore the iPhone 6 is currently not allowed to run to its potential.
The way I see it is that we all have demanded more features be put into iOS and Apple has given them to us. Quickly. It's been an exciting year of major releases, and I'm willing to be patient with the bug-fixing process.
One one hand, it's a great thing that Apple is being responsive to the demands of iOS users, especially to stop the floodgates of iOS users moving over to Android because iOS features used to be so far behind. Apple has thrown in a lot of features and visual overhaul since iOS 7 was released last year.
On the other hand, it's been a very demanding couple of years for Apple to completely overhaul both iOS and OS X.
But...the overhauls are pretty much done so Apple has cemented their new platforms, and from here on out will be able to chew smaller bites of updates, rather than huge chunks of upgrades. Let's be patient, aye?, and see how Apple conducts itself with a few expected years of incremental updates.
One one hand, it's a great thing that Apple is being responsive to the demands of iOS users, especially to stop the floodgates of iOS users moving over to Android because iOS features used to be so far behind. Apple has thrown in a lot of features and visual overhaul since iOS 7 was released last year.
On the other hand, it's been a very demanding couple of years for Apple to completely overhaul both iOS and OS X.
But...the overhauls are pretty much done so Apple has cemented their new platforms, and from here on out will be able to chew smaller bites of updates, rather than huge chunks of upgrades. Let's be patient, aye?, and see how Apple conducts itself with a few expected years of incremental updates.
Ladies and gentlemen, the prophet has spoken.
Interesting. My iPhone 6 does everything I want it to do, quickly and smoothly. Strange for a "crippled" device.
Except for the most important part of the equation- the apps. If iOS used more RAM, that would mean less RAM available for apps. And how on earth does the size of an OS have anything to do with its capabilities? I guess Snow Leopard is crippled compared to Leopard, in that case.
OK: The industry (be it media, consumers and/or loudmouth geeks) has demanded more features be put into iOS and Apple has given them to us. Quickly. It's been an exciting year of major releases, and I'm willing to be patient with the bug-fixing process.
One one hand, it's a great thing that Apple is being responsive to the demands of iOS users, especially to stop the floodgates of iOS users moving over to Android because iOS features used to be so far behind. Apple has thrown in a lot of features and visual overhaul since iOS 7 was released last year.
On the other hand, it's been a very demanding couple of years for Apple to completely overhaul both iOS and OS X.
But...the overhauls are pretty much done so Apple has cemented their new platforms, and from here on out will be able to chew smaller bites of updates, rather than huge chunks of upgrades. Let's be patient, aye?, and see how Apple conducts itself with a few expected years of incremental updates.
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One one hand, it's a great thing that Apple is being responsive to the demands of iOS users, especially to stop the floodgates of iOS users moving over to Android because iOS features used to be so far behind. Apple has thrown in a lot of features and visual overhaul since iOS 7 was released last year.
On the other hand, it's been a very demanding couple of years for Apple to completely overhaul both iOS and OS X.
But...the overhauls are pretty much done so Apple has cemented their new platforms, and from here on out will be able to chew smaller bites of updates, rather than huge chunks of upgrades. Let's be patient, aye?, and see how Apple conducts itself with a few expected years of incremental updates.
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Great post. Everybody wants to have their cake and eat it too- software development doesn't work that way. Once iOS "settles down", more resources can be devoted to fixing bugs.
If you don't want to wait around for that, go with Android or Windows.
You said, "we all" (as in those of us at MacRumors) demanded that Apple add more features. You start out with that faulty premise and then go on to explain why because of that demand for more we can't blame Apple for giving us what we wanted...that with all of that added functionality comes complexity and bugs... and you give the implication that people are not aware of that.
I didn't demand more features from Apple. I wanted greater stability and few bugs, and improved performance. They didn't give me what I wanted. Maybe I'm the only one... maybe not.
....and having started out on a faulty premise, you draw the faulty conclusion that we are impatient.
Yeah, let's be patient. Again. I waited twelve whole months for iOS7 to become 'ok' to use and I've been waiting over two years for the webpage reloads to stop happening. Why should we keep waiting for a bug-free device when we spend all this money?? All the while the cash keeps rolling into the Apple coffers.
Good point. So stop spending money on devices that don't work for you, and spend money on devices that do. Easy solution, and you'll never have to deal with Apple again.
Settles down? Let's not apologise or find it acceptable. You have the mentality that makes Apple get away with shoddy support for their devices. There are no excuses to release an unpolished product. It's pure greed, regardless of which company does it.
No, what people want is an OS which works they way it was intended and advertised. Apple are laughably proud and pompous of what they achieve, but if they don't deliver, then customers have the right to demand better.
I have the mentality that gets me what I want in a device- I buy what works for me, Apple or otherwise. I use a mix of Apple and Microsoft products on a daily basis. Instead of whine when Apple releases something that doesn't do what I want it to do, I simply don't give them my money. It's not a short term solution, but I rarely find myself upset with Apple. If iOS ever gets to a point where I find myself unsatisfied with it, my next device won't be an Apple product.
Wallets speak louder than words- for Apple and every other company out there. Don't give them the money you feel they haven't earned. That's probably not a solution to any current issues you may have, but it will make you happier in the long term.
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