Well I understand your point.
Really? Well that's good news, cause it will lose a couple of frames when you tap the auto-scroll on 8.1.3.
How stable is 8.2? Does the weather app lag when you expand and collapse cities?
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Is iOS 8 bad coding or planned obsolescence?
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Well I understand your point.
Really? Well that's good news, cause it will lose a couple of frames when you tap the auto-scroll on 8.1.3.
How stable is 8.2? Does the weather app lag when you expand and collapse cities?
The fallacy of your argument is comparing computing services delivered via a desktop to computing services delivered by a mobile device.
In 2008 Intel release their core I7 processors that blew the lid off of every processor to date. TDP of 129 watts, however, a lot of big fans and a large heat-coresink mitigated the affects of the large amount of energy dissipated. 7 years later those desktops are still capable or more than adequately running the most current O/S. Need more horsepower, cram more transistors and make the heatsink bigger; no biggie. Try running Windows 8.1 on a Pentium Pro/300mhz.
Mobile processors don't have the same luxury as unlimited power and heat dissipation and their performance grows at different rates; which is why a mobile processor circa a few years ago doesn't scale the same way as a desktop processor of the same era. Now other than the what I've read here on MR, I wasn't aware of 6+ issues. I've played with a few of and didn't see any real issues to speak of. But with millions of devices out there, I'm sure some do. But IMO, only here do people believe in a conspiracy theory of obsolete hardware.
Yes, but Apple wasn't known for being first. They were known for coming in later and nailing the implementation. Now, they're not even doing that. They're the last and the buggiest on so many instances.
I agree OP, I am not sure what it is with iOS 8, but iOS 7 on the 5S was noticeably faster and less laggy overall than iOS 8 on the 6...its still smooth for the most part on the 6 but theres a step down
So many bugs in iOS 8, I feel that has something to do with it.
As for the older 5/5C, It sucks because iOS8 *did* run better on the 5 than it does now, I think it was 8.0.2? It ran buttery smooth like iOS7, much better than it does currently. After iOS8.1 is when it slowed down on the 5 which was strange seeing as even older devices (like the 4S) ended up getting a bit smoother and faster.
Overall iOS 8 is great feature wise, I love using widgets so much. Little things like answering texts by swiping down and deleting email messages quickly all add to the flow of the phone better.
But iOS 8 is just so buggy that it ruins that enjoyment. I don't think it was planned, OP, I just think its poorly optimized and buggy.
Its been months since iOS 8 launched and Apple still hasn't fixed many of these issues.
So many bugs in iOS 8, I feel that has something to do with it.
As for the older 5/5C, It sucks because iOS8 *did* run better on the 5 than it does now, I think it was 8.0.2? It ran buttery smooth like iOS7, much better than it does currently. After iOS8.1 is when it slowed down on the 5 which was strange seeing as even older devices (like the 4S) ended up getting a bit smoother and faster.
Overall iOS 8 is great feature wise, I love using widgets so much. Little things like answering texts by swiping down and deleting email messages quickly all add to the flow of the phone better.
But iOS 8 is just so buggy that it ruins that enjoyment. I don't think it was planned, OP, I just think its poorly optimized and buggy.
Its been months since iOS 8 launched and Apple still hasn't fixed many of these issues.
Zoom. In one ear and out the other. I said CAME WITH WINDOWS 95, not an Atom cpu. Please learn how to read.
Yet no one really gave a f about NFC payments till Apple play, especially in America. Android Wallet , please don't embarrass your self. We Apple users don't care about being first, we care about having the best implementation. Typical Android user and their feature first nonsense
How about Samsung copying Touch ID on the next Galaxy because their first finger print implementation sucked so bad? It's the Samsung/Android way, either be first and crap or copy and be crap. You can pick the crap you like, still crap at the end of the day tho.
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I see more UI lagging on 64 bit devices, than I see on a 32 bit device with reasonable specs. My iPhone 5 doesn't stutter nearly as much as I've seen a 5S stutter. I don't think Apple has got the 64 bit iOS 8 properly sorted out.
I also don't think Apple knows how to get iOS working well on Retina iPads. The Retina iPads thus far have all started stuttering with animations after one update. The iPad 3 started to do so with iOS 6, the iPad 4 with iOS 7 and the iPad Air with iOS 8. The iPad 2, the last non retina iPad, didn't start stuttering till iOS 7, and that was mainly fixed with iOS 7.1.
Basically Apple needs to rewrite iOS to be stable. It needs to run reasonably on 512 MB devices, as then it would run well on anything.
I also don't think Apple knows how to get iOS working well on Retina iPads. The Retina iPads thus far have all started stuttering with animations after one update. The iPad 3 started to do so with iOS 6, the iPad 4 with iOS 7 and the iPad Air with iOS 8. The iPad 2, the last non retina iPad, didn't start stuttering till iOS 7, and that was mainly fixed with iOS 7.1.
Basically Apple needs to rewrite iOS to be stable. It needs to run reasonably on 512 MB devices, as then it would run well on anything.
It does run reasonable well on 512mB devices. There is only so much that can be done tho, especially with old hardware. People should be happy that they even get ios 8, try that with Android and old devices. I also don't know how people can still use an iPad with 512mb ram, that's like 1 tab open and 1 app open, even 1GB is not enough anymore on ipads
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Actually only in America really. Most of Europe is NFC ready. Here in the UK it is actually built into bank cards, many stores have supported it for a good few years now and people have been using it in their phones for quite a while. I've been using it for the past two years with my BlackBerry.
The strange thing is, despite Europe being mostly ready for NFC, Apple chose to only enable ApplePay in the US only. The country who is probably most behind on NFC technologies. I heard US citizens still use magnetic strips on their cards
For my understanding NFC is popular in Europe. The fact remains the U.S is behind the curve when it comes to payment options and technology. It seems that Europe has moved beyond the use of credit cards with magnetic strips and they use NFC. Where as here in the US, we're stuck in the 1980s.
Actually only in America really. Most of Europe is NFC ready. Here in the UK it is actually built into bank cards, many stores have supported it for a good few years now and people have been using it in their phones for quite a while. I've been using it for the past two years with my BlackBerry.
The strange thing is, despite Europe being mostly ready for NFC, Apple chose to only enable ApplePay in the US only. The country who is probably most behind on NFC technologies. I heard US citizens still use magnetic strips on their cards
I know I live in the UK. I did say "especially in America", probably should have said "mainly".
Cannot wait for Apple pay. Oh and iTunes Radio where the f are you
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you may be waiting longer than you think. With Apple not content with just using standard card details to process NFC transactions like every other NFC service does and UK banks unwilling to give Apple the information they desire, I imagine there is currently a standoff between the UK Banks and Apple.
"Snow Leopard" -- as in the version of OS X that broke hundreds (if not thousands) of applications and whose first iteration deleted user data if they logged into a Guest account?
I know some people on this board like to look at Snow Leopard with rose-tinted glasses. But, the early versions had bugs galore and performance issues. The fast and stable OS X version 10.6.8 that people now hold up as some gold standard didn't come out until more than 22 months after 10.6.0 came out. Yes, it's a great OS that I still use everyday. But, people seem to have forgotten how problematic the early versions were, and just how many applications Snow Leopard broke.
The smoke signals are that we are about to get a service release and not a feature release. This is amazing for so many reasons. The OS needs to take a breath and flip to optimization of code to prepare for the next wave of features. They should start to plan these into there cycle so people can expect them and not get all bent out of shape when iOS 9 is not very new feature rich. This should be appreciated by us all as apple will more than likely take a beating from the press and stock speculators for this low feature release that focuses on restoring some quality.
As for the older 5/5C, It sucks because iOS8 *did* run better on the 5 than it does now, I think it was 8.0.2? It ran buttery smooth like iOS7, much better than it does currently. After iOS8.1 is when it slowed down on the 5 which was strange seeing as even older devices (like the 4S) ended up getting a bit smoother and faster.
Its been months since iOS 8 launched and Apple still hasn't fixed many of these issues.
I noticed the same. Apple realised that their 32 bit devices iPhone 5 and 5c are running better and hence they deliberately adjusted the performance on 8.1 to save embarassment. It's extremely extremely extremely easy for them to introduce a deliberate delay in animations or opening apps on devices they chose. I remember how flawlessly and smoothly iPhone 5c operated on7.1.2. Butter.
But on 8.1.3, it just stutters and coughs like suddenly it's become a senior citizen. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for it to stutter during same animations on iOS 8 and run everything at 60 fps on iOS 7.
people forget so quickly don't they
Everyone is like I want to go back to 7.1.2 (1 year ago everyone would have said 6.x.x)
Everyone is like I want to go back to Mavericks (Mavericks was even worst than yosemite when first released)
It's just the way it goes these days, people have the attention span and memory of a fly.
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I did read this article, I'm sure it will be sorted soon. Of course the bank I am using (HSBC) is literally the only one that hasn't official announced support for Apple pay yet. I did read that 8.3 gave support for Apple pay in China so I guess they actually need to update iOS to make it work, rather than just turning on a switch.
QFT !
Which is why i'm not an early adopter. I wait, read impressions and reviews first before making the jump. My iPad 2 is still on iOS 7.1.2 and I waited several months before making the switch from iOS 6.
Yeah that makes sense, especially on the older devices. My point is for the early adopters that constantly complain about software and bugs. Everyone hated 7.0 but since 7.1 it is suddenly the second coming of stability and smoothness. Same with Mavericks and Yosemite. It will also happen with OS X 10.10.11 and ios 9. Endless cycle.
Because Apple finally put the fixes and improvements into 7.1 that should have been in 7.0 if Apple didn't rush it out and then take half a year to actually finish it basically.
So why are we comparing ios8 that's been out for about 4months to 7.1.2 that took 7-8 months to polish. iOS 8.0 is/was much better than 7.0 ever was.
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Aha so 6.0 was perfect when released? You either compare .0 versions with another .0 version or you don't compare at all. You can't compare 7.0 with 6.1.6 nor can you compare 8.0 with 7.1.2. It just makes no sense to compare a polished version of iOS at the end of it's cycle with a new version of iOS at the beginning of its cycle.
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