it's 2007 all over again with the X

[KGB7]

@OP

So called tech writers, make money on writing what ever garbage they can think of. And people love a good drama and eat it up like it’s crack candy, because they can’t think for them selfs and have nothing better to do.

Just look at the internet fake news. There are people that write this crap and make millions each year because the rest of the world is full of dumb people who are blindly click on the links.

So stop reading and believing everything you see in the internet. Put the drama stick down and go mow your lawn or clean your attic.

 

[Diving Capers]

Part of why they're falling behind is because of Apple's dedication to privacy.

I will say, having switched back to iOS 11 from Android 7.1.1 using Assistant daily, Siri in my opinion doesn't really lack compared that much to Google Assistant. As far as getting things done, they're pretty comparable. Assistant was only more efficient at its integration with other services and a few of its skills (which I don't use that often on Alexa, Siri, or Assistant anyways, but that's just me).

To be honest I stopped using Siri after the first week (iPhone 4S). I didn’t like the idea of it needing to call home.

I also disable Cortana on my PC and have Siri disabled on my iPad.

I might use it again in 50 years when it has its own locally stored brain.
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I think Siri's development has been extremely slow, but I don't see Google Assistant or Bixby as a huge (Better? Yes, slightly, only for Google. Huge improvement? No) improvement over what Apple is doing. I think both have more access to personal data, which certainly helps. Either way, I could really care less about voice assistants though so ultimately I am not too worried about it.

It’s the same for me, I disable them when possible.

I did like google´s real time voice translation they demoed at the Pixel 2 unveiling.

 

[bufffilm]

Yep. The intelligent software engineers and designers leading Apple’s teams are gone. Intelligent people know to design to eliminate distraction and to design such that this device you are going to sell to hundreds of millions of humans is unbelievably intuitive and as simple as could possibly be designed.

Their major decline started before 3D Touch, but 3D Touch in particular was the first major indicator that they had lost the intelligent designers and engineers leading the teams. 3D Touch is used by a fraction of users because it is extremely complex and the ease-of-use, and usefulness alone are not there.

The iPhone X having Control Center and Notification Center at the top are the next major indicator. These should have been left and right swipes on the Home Indicator at the bottom of the display...like where your thumb can reach.

Left and right swipe-ups to invoke CC and Notifications would have much more in keeping with Apple's simplicity and elegance.

Instead, we have this confusing mess that Apple is pushing instead.

 

[Diorama]

Left and right swipe-ups to invoke CC and Notifications would have much more in keeping with Apple's simplicity and elegance.

Instead, we have this confusing mess that Apple is pushing instead.

So swiping up is simple and elegant but swiping down is a confusing mess. Got it.

 

[Diving Capers]

So swiping up is simple and elegant but swiping down is a confusing mess. Got it.

And we are not even going to discuss diagonal swiping

 

[bufffilm]

So swiping up is simple and elegant but swiping down is a confusing mess. Got it.

It is when you have to do it from the top of the screen.

But feel free to disagree.

 

[teknikal90]

Surely you're joking.

seriously prefer the look of the s8.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I’m seeing less of a buzz now than we saw in 2014 when the 6 and 6 Plus came out.

In 2007 we were given something very new which shaped the smartphone industry. In 2017 we are seeing Apple catch up in the feature race marginally.

Hardly another ‘2007’..... Sorry but no.

 

[Ralfi]

For me, it's 2012 & 2015 again. They were the years I upgraded iPhones, both mainly due to a larger display & extra boost in performance.

This year's no different, but it has the added hype of minimal bezels complimenting the larger screen. That price though!...

 

[redheeler]

Face ID is the only feature that can be considered redefined, and yes you'll likely see other smartphones with face scanners because of it. But that is nowhere near the impact of the 2007 iPhone.

In fact, even Touch ID in the iPhone 5s had a bigger impact, as that showed how bio-authentication can become mainstream on consumer devices, and immediately after it launched typing in 4-digit passcodes dozens of times per day seemed overly tedious.

OLED screen and other features of the iPhone X are not new, redefined or unique to the iPhone, so I really can't think of anything else aside from Face ID and decent benchmarks from the A11 CPU also present on iPhone 8 and 8 Plus.

 

[Casfin]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

hy·per·bo·le
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1. exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
   synonyms: exaggeration, overstatement, magnification, embroidery, embellishment, excess, overkill, rhetoric; More
   informalpurple prose, puffery
   "the media hyperbole that accompanied their championship series"
   antonyms: understatement

 

[MarkB786]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

I just don't see how the X "redefines" things. I have yet to see a solid list of the great, innovative features that define the X and that are not just incremental iPhone updates or catch-up features that other makers have already implemented.

 

[nia820]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

Umm no. Just no. iPhone x will no doubt be a solid phone. But iPhone x isn't introducing anything new. Bezeless smartphones have been done. Face ID. Done. OLED. Done

In 2007 there was no phone like the iPhone around.

 

[serialiphoneuser]

Not really.. if only iPhone X had Touch-ID.. it would have been an unimaginable blockbuster of the decade. Clearly they've failed to entice all users.

 

[sumsingwong]

I wouldn't say they redefined smartphones again. Like others have said, they added hardware and features other smartphones have had for a while now except for Face ID. They also don't have the best screen to body ratio.

Essential PH-1: Screen-to-body ratio: 84.9 percent


SAMSUNG GALAXY S8, S8 PLUS AND NOTE 8: Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent, 84 percent, and 83.2 percent, Screen size: 5.8 inches, 6.2 inches, and 6.3 inches

XIAOMI MI MIX: Screen-to-body ratio: 83.6 percent Screen size: 6.4 inches

IPHONE X: Screen-to-body ratio: 82.9 percent Screen size: 5.8 inches

 

[solo118]

Not really.. if only iPhone X had Touch-ID.. it would have been an unimaginable blockbuster of the decade. Clearly they've failed to entice all users.

If you did not get it already, Apple is giving you the future of phone tech just like they did in 2007. It may get quicker/better with future iterations, but this is what it is today. Touch ID requires a larger bezel, they wanted to get rid of it to make a so called edge to edge screen. I haven't seen any other phone with a thumbprint scanner within the screen, and to be honest they already got rid of it so I doubt they are going back to Touch ID.

People are crying about this notch, or the lack of Touch ID, but I can assure you that Apple will be the one laughing all the way to the bank with the X.

 

[blackberrycubed]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

Wrong. Just stop.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

If you did not get it already, Apple is giving you the future of phone tech just like they did in 2007. It may get quicker/better with future iterations, but this is what it is today. Touch ID requires a larger bezel, they wanted to get rid of it to make a so called edge to edge screen. I haven't seen any other phone with a thumbprint scanner within the screen, and to be honest they already got rid of it so I doubt they are going back to Touch ID.

People are crying about this notch, or the lack of Touch ID, but I can assure you that Apple will be the one laughing all the way to the bank with the X.

The X is a niche product at this point though with a select market. Whether or not Apple is ‘laughing all the way to the bank’ is irrelevant to the average iPhone consumer. I’m sure in an ideal world the X would be the mainstream iPhone over the next 12 months but it’s priced too high unfortunately. It may well be the future, but not until it’s available to the wider market.

 

[Kulfon]

Okay...your thread title made me interested....less so the post. There is nothing recokutionary with iPhone X. Nothing that doesn't already exist. Iphone was massively different from every other phone that existed before, ot was a different mindset. Btw, what do you say about iPhone 8 in terms of the revolution?

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

Ok
[doublepost=1508353124][/doublepost]What are you so excited about? Seriously. It is plain silky to be so excited about the fact that you will need to stare at a screen even more than you do now. Disaster, IMHO. Animoji....man....there are so many true emotions out there every day, real people, real faces, real life.

Like in 2007, we can revisit this thread in a year or two then you'll see just like we did 10 years ago. Granted back then they turned the entire smartphone industry on it's head, but it's even more difficult now to bring in true innovation. Any little tweak is deemed 'innovation' it's so over used. Face ID will be revolutionary, while everyone else put print scanners on the back, Apple went with next gen tech. Animoji's as you well know are just an in house example. Who's to what brilliant idea developers will come up with. Maybe you'll have animated game characters where you can interact with the game using facial expressions, who knows, but it's not something that anyone else can simply copy.

 

[Dirtydutch]

I don't think anything will make an impact quite like the original iPhone for a very long time.

 

[Diorama]

Bezeless smartphones have been done. Face ID. Done

Links? Pics?

In 2007 there was no phone like the iPhone around.

Hmm...

Capacitive touch? Done.

Colour LCD under glass? Done.

2 megapixel camera on the back? Done.

Micro SD expansion built-in? Done.

 

[Droidbricker]

I’d argue that it’s 2008, 2010, 2012, & 2014 all over again, except more underwhelming.

 

[iSayBoourns]

What are you so excited about? Seriously. It is plain silky to be so excited about the fact that you will need to stare at a screen even more than you do now. Disaster, IMHO. Animoji....man....there are so many true emotions out there every day, real people, real faces, real life.

How does FaceID make it fact that you’ll have to stare at your even more? I could be wrong but people generally look at their screen when using their device. So looking at the screen to use it will also unlock it simultaneously. It doesn’t add up to staring at it more often, when you have to stare at it anyways to use it.

 

[Kmart9419]

Surely you're joking.

The one in the middle looks hideous.

 

[Diorama]

. Animoji....man....there are so many true emotions out there every day, real people, real faces, real life.

And yet here you are, bathed in the blue light of your screen, shouting into the void, at people you will never meet, about a phone you don’t even like.