it's 2007 all over again with the X

[The-Real-Deal82]

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Capacitive touch? Done.

Colour LCD under glass? Done.

2 megapixel camera on the back? Done.

Micro SD expansion built-in? Done.

I owned that phone and it was pretty dreadful. I think although the iPhone sold pretty poorly in the UK due to price and carrier exclusivity, it did show other manufacturers where the market was going. Apple came in and did it better I think. It took three iterations to get a wider following though.

 

[Kmart9419]

No home button and a gesture based UI are the big changes here besides the design. This is going to make the whole experience of using an iPhone very different moving forward and opens up a lot of interesting possibilities with how they improve iOS.

I see that as a huge negative. The simplicity of the home button can’t be replaced with any swiping action. I dread supporting older family members with the changes.

 

[iSayBoourns]

Face ID is the only feature that can be considered redefined, and yes you'll likely see other smartphones with face scanners because of it. But that is nowhere near the impact of the 2007 iPhone.

In fact, even Touch ID in the iPhone 5s had a bigger impact, as that showed how bio-authentication can become mainstream on consumer devices, and immediately after it launched typing in 4-digit passcodes dozens of times per day seemed overly tedious.

OLED screen and other features of the iPhone X are not new, redefined or unique to the iPhone, so I really can't think of anything else aside from Face ID and decent benchmarks from the A11 CPU also present on iPhone 8 and 8 Plus.

Apple did do something new with the OLED screen that no one else has done before.

They folded some screen under itself at the bottom for the controller. That allowed to completely remove the chin.

 

[Diorama]

Apple did do something new with the OLED screen that no one else has done before.

They folded some screen under itself at the bottom for the controller. That allowed to completely remove the chin.

Exactly.
For all those people posting the fact that the Essential Phone has the highest ratio of screen to body (by maybe 3%) and is therefore more ‘bezel-less’, what’s that at the bottom?

 

[DNichter]

I see that as a huge negative. The simplicity of the home button can’t be replaced with any swiping action. I dread supporting older family members with the changes.

Haha well the supporting older family members part is true, but I am sure the 8 will stick around for a while to help those who can’t adapt. To those more technically inclined, I think it will come more naturally than they expect. We were used to swipe to unlock for years, now we have it back. Swiping up to close an app seems very natural also from the videos I’ve seen.

 

[inscrewtable]

That's a lot of Whereas™

Would you prefer I wrote instead of 'whereas', "in contrast or comparison with the fact that:", you do understand how words work don't you?

 

[fs454]

I see that as a huge negative. The simplicity of the home button can’t be replaced with any swiping action. I dread supporting older family members with the changes.

Apple is targeting the power user with this device. Swiping up to close and swiping across to switch apps is going to save tons of time and make multitasking feel a lot faster and more practical. It's literally the main thing i'm pumped about on the X.

 

[Diorama]

Check out the big brain on Brad

 

[inscrewtable]

Redefine? Except for the processor isn’t just about every feature on the X already offered on other phones including a bezeless screen?

Please post an image of another bezel free screen. The processor is not small thing because processing power is what will drive the next level of what is possible on phones. Also the 3d depth sensing and the possibilities that it will open is another major part of the puzzle and works hand in glove with processing power.

 

[fs454]

Exactly.
For all those people posting the fact that the Essential Phone has the highest ratio of screen to body (by maybe 3%) and is therefore more ‘bezel-less’, what’s that at the bottom?

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On top of that, it doesn't look good. It didn't review well. How do you authenticate? Backside fingerprint sensor? lol.

The skeptics will see the phone in person and be wowed, just like the 2007 launch. It was easy to dump on the iPhone for lack of copy/paste, lack of 3G, lack of keyboard, etc until you actually got to touch one. Apple is in a totally different league. Those who decide to hold a grudge, so be it - I don't want everyone else to have the same phone I have. Like that guy on here who's so irked about the camera bump that he's going Android. Like, what?

 

[inscrewtable]

seriously prefer the look of the s8.

And you know what? There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[Ipadfever]

Surely you're joking.

Ignorance is blissful, I wish I saw Apple the way you do, in fact if everyone did they would be a multi trillion dollar company!

 

[dallas112678]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

How exactly is Apple redefining the phone? I’m pretty sure the bezel less OLED screen has already been done...

 

[inscrewtable]

2007 all over again, further explanation obviously needed.

It is ironic that virtually everyone has missed the point, which is that it was a couple of years after the original iPhone came out that all those lampooning it had to eat their words. Everyone here is lampooning it before it's even been released.

IIRC, on the very same Macrumors there was the same mocking of the original iPod, about how it's already dead in the water because of much better mp3 players and so on...

In THAT, way this new generation of iPhones' merit will only be apparent as we go forward and the comments in this an other threads on the X, will be as laughable as were the comments that Nokia, Blackberry, and MS at the unveiling of the 2007 iPhone. Unfortunately we'll have to wait two years for two years to pass, that's the nature of time.

 

[OutSpoken]

The notch seems to offend a lot of people lol

Is it weird that i actually quite like it😳 i think it gives the iPhone X character.

 

[iSayBoourns]

The notch seems to offend a lot of people lol

Is it weird that i actually quite like it😳 i think it gives the iPhone X character.

People get upset over everything around here. I bet if Apple lowered the clock on the lock screen by 5 pixels, people would be furious.

 

[Macalway]

Geesh, Either the X is a laughable turd or the Second Coming, nothing in-between.

It's a Phone.

 

[inscrewtable]

I love this the notch cuts out the display. Er, no the sensors 'cut out' the display. If people spoke more honestly instead of referring to a 'notch' they would refer to the 'flood illuminator, the IR scanner, camera, dot projector, mic, and speaker' and say 'all that crap is taking up space that could be screen'.

 

[redheeler]

The notch seems to offend a lot of people lol

Is it weird that i actually quite like it😳 i think it gives the iPhone X character.

In portrait mode it's fine, but in landscape mode it's very asymmetrical and that detracts from the phone's aesthetics. Using the iPhone X in landscape mode is already a definite downgrade from iPhone Plus, just based on the differences in software, not hardware.

 

[KGB7]

I’m seeing less of a buzz now than we saw in 2014 when the 6 and 6 Plus came out.

In 2007 we were given something very new which shaped the smartphone industry. In 2017 we are seeing Apple catch up in the feature race marginally.

Hardly another ‘2007’..... Sorry but no.

In 2017, people want things in new phones with out knowing what they want in the first place and complain when they didn’t get what they wanted, even though they don’t know what they want in the first place.


Oy Vey!

 

[Ipadfever]

The notch seems to offend a lot of people lol

Is it weird that i actually quite like it😳 i think it gives the iPhone X character.

Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder

 

[PizzaBoxStyle]

In 2007 Apple turned the entire smart phone industry on it's head and was mercilessly mocked by Blackberry, Nokia, and Windows, 'it's doesn't even have a keyboard' roffle' they all said before Apple ate their lunch.

Now in the Tenth anniversary year Apple have again redefined the Smartphone, and yet again, not the tech companies but all the tech writers and all the tech writers' sychophants, are getting their knickers in a bunch.

Do they ever learn. The good thing this time is that it's going to be that much more difficult to simply copy what Apple have done which is surely what they will want to do.

It's going to be a hoot.

It's because the things Apple has been doing lately are actively making the new products worse than the old products.

They are most certainly not on the upswing here.

The new MacBook keyboard is getting a lot of flack. (See: https://theoutline.com/post/2402/the-new-macbook-keyboard-is-ruining-my-life)

And so is USB-C, the port that has replaced all others on the newest portables. (See: https://marco.org/2017/10/14/impossible-dream-of-usb-c)


They keep making these trade offs and compromises in their products, to the point that they become unreliable or less useful. Things are getting worse. I fully expect this to be the story with the X, too.

 

[fs454]

How exactly is Apple redefining the phone? I’m pretty sure the bezel less OLED screen has already been done...

Yep, and we saw all the features in the 2007 iPhone in other phones many times before. Now we get to experience the tech with the polish and engineering that Apple typically gives to technologies it's adopting, just like we saw in 2007.

That is exciting. Period. It's not a race to be done first, it's a race to be done best.

 

[Ralfi]

I just don't see how the X "redefines" things. I have yet to see a solid list of the great, innovative features that define the X and that are not just incremental iPhone updates or catch-up features that other makers have already implemented.

Think more 'refines' than redefines.

verb
3rd person present: refines

1. remove impurities or unwanted elements*
   

*bezels
😎

 

[QCassidy352]

Surely you're joking.

The X is clearly the best design (I know, I know, it's subjective), but they're all of a type. It's refinements on a theme, not a revolution by any stretch of the imagination.