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It's barely heavier, 3 ounces. Thicker yes, I suspect it is because of the wireless charging system. You want to leave some room in there from my understanding. Other than the slippery plastic back, it is not cheaper feeling. The screen is just as good as the iPad's, the sound is superior.

Thank you for confirming it's heavier, thicker, and made of cheaper materials than the iPad. Again, how could they bring such a turd to market?
 
Thank you for confirming it's heavier, thicker, and made of cheaper materials than the iPad. Again, how could they bring such a turd to market?

If you think the TouchPad is heavy, you must be pretty weak. It's a difference of a few ounces people. You're acting like it weights 20 pounds more!
 
If you think the TouchPad is heavy, you must be pretty weak. It's a difference of a few ounces people. You're acting like it weights 20 pounds more!

I agree that the weight difference probably does not matter that much (I have not had hands on experience with the Touchpad) but it is 20.7 percent (approximately 1/5) heavier. Just saying....


I obtained weight specs off of official product webpages.

iPad=613 g
Touchpad=740 g
 
I agree that the weight difference probably does not matter that much (I have not had hands on experience with the Touchpad) but it is 20.7 percent (approximately 1/5) heavier. Just saying....


I obtained weight specs off of official product webpages.

iPad=613 g
Touchpad=740 g

21% thicker does sound bad when put that way, but 740 grams = 1.63 pounds. That is NOT heavy by any means.
 
21% thicker does sound bad when put that way, but 740 grams = 1.63 pounds. That is NOT heavy by any means.

Oh please. If it were the other way around, you'd be sitting here calling the iPad a brick and acting as if the TouchPad were filled with helium.
 
21% thicker does sound bad when put that way, but 740 grams = 1.63 pounds. That is NOT heavy by any means.

Agreed, I was just putting raw numbers out there. Neither of the two should be very heavy to someone unless they have some sort of physical handicap.

That was comparing the 3G iPad to the Touchpad BTW. The more valid comparison of the wifi only Touchpad to the wifi only iPad is:

Touchpad=740 g
iPad=601 g

That is a difference of 23.1 percent (between 1/4 and 1/5 heavier).

Does it really make that much of a difference? That is a matter of opinion, but the facts are as shown.
 
Oh please. If it were the other way around, you'd be sitting here calling the iPad a brick and acting as if the TouchPad were filled with helium.

I don't see why you presume to know how I would act in such a situation, but I actually like the iPad better than the TouchPad. I'm just simply stating that weight is not a valid complaint against the TouchPad.
 
Let's be honest. When you're trying to hold it up with one hand, like reading a book, that difference in weight becomes quite noticeable.
 
This is true. Its one of the larger complaints against the iPad1 vs Kindle.

Yes, but it is not as valid in that case because all the kindle is designed for is to read ebooks. The iPad does much more. The comparison between the Touchpad and the iPad is more valid due to both products being designed to fulfil the same/similar purposes.
 
Yes, but it is not as valid in that case because all the kindle is designed for is to read ebooks. The iPad does much more. The comparison between the Touchpad and the iPad is more valid due to both products being designed to fulfil the same/similar purposes.

Its a valid argument regardless. If someone is buying an iPad/Kindle/Touchpad and expect to do a lot of reading on it, then that fatigue is something that will be important to them.
 
Its a valid argument regardless. If someone is buying an iPad/Kindle/Touchpad and expect to do a lot of reading on it, then that fatigue is something that will be important to them.

Yes, but unless reading while holding the device one handed is their primary reason for buying the iPad/Kindle/Touchpad, then the comparison is not as valid. I never said that it was a completely invalid comparison. I do agree with you that if that is the primary reason that they own the device then the fatigue will be an important issue to them though.
 
Yes, but unless reading while holding the device one handed is their primary reason for buying the iPad/Kindle/Touchpad, then the comparison is not as valid. I never said that it was a completely invalid comparison. I do agree with you that if that is the primary reason that they own the device then the fatigue will be an important issue to them though.

All of these advantages/disadvantages are valid, to what degree is a personal decision that we will each make. Its not for you to decided which is more or less valid to others.
 
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Let's be honest. When you're trying to hold it up with one hand, like reading a book, that difference in weight becomes quite noticeable.

But if you don't hold it that way you don't care!
 
All of these advantages/disadvantages are valid, to what degree is a personal decision that we will each make. Its not for you to decided which is more or less valid to others.

Except that comparing the kindle and iPad is like comparing apples and oranges. They are not designed to perform the same tasks. The iPad and the Touchpad, on the other hand, are designed to perform the same tasks, therefore it is a more valid comparison. If one particular advantage/disadvantage is more important to you than to me, so be it. I cannot decide what is and is not important to you. The comparison of the iPad to the Touchpad is more valid than the comparison of the iPad to the kindle. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.

But if you don't hold it that way you don't care!

One handed is most likely the most common way it will be held though. You need one hand free to operate the device.
 
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Except that comparing the kindle and iPad is like comparing apples and oranges. They are not designed to perform the same tasks. The iPad and the Touchpad, on the other hand, are designed to perform the same tasks, therefore it is a more valid comparison. If one particular advantage/disadvantage is more important to you than to me, so be it. I cannot decide what is and is not important to you. The comparison of the iPad to the Touchpad is more valid than the comparison of the iPad to the kindle. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.



One handed is most likely the most common way it will be held though. You need one hand free to operate the device.

I use mine in a case always. Never use it one-handed holding it naked.
 
Except that comparing the kindle and iPad is like comparing apples and oranges. They are not designed to perform the same tasks. The iPad and the Touchpad, on the other hand, are designed to perform the same tasks, therefore it is a more valid comparison. If one particular advantage/disadvantage is more important to you than to me, so be it. I cannot decide what is and is not important to you. The comparison of the iPad to the Touchpad is more valid than the comparison of the iPad to the kindle. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.

No, its not an Apple to Oranges comparison. The iPad is considered a competitor to the Kindle and a quick google search would show thousands of websites and forum posts dedicated to the subject over the last year. We're not comparing a TV to a toaster, both these devices have overlapping functions and many people have made a choice of one or the other.

I'm not even sure why it matters which comparison is "more valid" anyway. The point is that some people care about the differences in the size and weight of these devices.
 
No, its not an Apple to Oranges comparison. The iPad is considered a competitor to the Kindle and a quick google search would show thousands of websites and forum posts dedicated to the subject over the last year. We're not comparing a TV to a toaster, both these devices have overlapping functions and many people have made a choice of one or the other.

I'm not even sure why it matters which comparison is "more valid" anyway. The point is that some people care about the differences in the size and weight of these devices.

iPad vs. Kindle is a really worthless comparison. If you only want to read books get the Kindle, hands down. If you want to have the state of the art tablet get the iPad. If I was only concerned with reading books (actual books, not graphic-filled PDFs or anything) I'd get a Kindle because it's light and the battery lasts forever. But I do a hell of a lot more than just read books, and I hate having multiple devices so the iPad does everything I need, and works as a pretty dang good ebook reader too.
 
No, its not an Apple to Oranges comparison. The iPad is considered a competitor to the Kindle and a quick google search would show thousands of websites and forum posts dedicated to the subject over the last year. We're not comparing a TV to a toaster, both these devices have overlapping functions and many people have made a choice of one or the other.

No it is more like comparing a motorcycle to a truck. Both are motorized vehicles that will get you from point A to B but one has more possible uses. IPad to Touchpad is more like comparing two different similar size trucks.

I'm not even sure why it matters which comparison is "more valid" anyway. The point is that some people care about the differences in the size and weight of these.

This we actually agree on, as I said in a previous post.
 
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The "little thicker", "little heavier" isn't a problem, it's that it's thicker and heavier AND has at least 20% less battery life that concerns me.

Wow. You just said that Flash-enabled browsing is "efficient."

That's ****ing hilarious.


You will be surprised that TouchPad lasts 2 hours longer when playing Flash video than iPad2 playing HTML5 video.
 
You will be surprised that TouchPad lasts 2 hours longer when playing Flash video than iPad2 playing HTML5 video.

I have yet to see anything to confirm something like this.

Flash for mobile devices is terrible, so find it hard to believe that a device like the Touchpad, which has 80% the battery capacity of the iPad, can somehow magically last 2 hours longer when playng a Flash video over an iPad playing a a video in HTML5.
 
Don't trust the reviews, the hardware is solid, the unit is fast, screen is gorgeous.


Anyway, I'm not trolling here

-Gromet

I didn't read through all the replies, and I'm sure someone else quoted this part of your post, but it's worth pointing out again.

Why should anyone here disregard professional reviews and take your word over theirs? I don't and won't...but thanks for sharing your juvenile, for lack of a better word, review.

And believe it or not, trolling is exactly what your doing.
 
Why should anyone here disregard professional reviews?
Getting paid to review a device doesn't guarantee the reviewer knows anything about it. I can tell reading many that at best the reviewer has had the device for a day, and is simply repeating the same unproven dogma found in forums like this. Often review units are not upgraded with the latest firmware. Many are early pre-production units.

Frankly, the opinion of someone who owns a device and has been using it regularly a month or more is more valuable to me than any paid reviewer's opinion.
 
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