Kuo: All Three iPhones Coming in 2020 Will Support 5G

JosephAW

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Someone was arguing with me saying that existing iPhone can do 5G with a software update. I disagree.
 

ipedro

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Other than in home broadband, everything else you mentioned is 3-5 years away.

But sure... Enjoy your flying car powered by 5G.
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Are you a paid shill for 5G!?

Me thinks so... Try to be more subtle in your attempts.
Right. So I made deliberated and well explained arguments and your last resort is to accuse me of being a “paid shill” without refuting the arguments.
Nobody said these improvements were coming tomorrow. The first poster was saying that 5G wasn’t needed. I demonstrated why it is. The second argument was that no improvements were made in past wireless transitions.i suggested they go back to EDGE since they didn’t think LTE was an improvement.

This clearly flustered you because you still can’t refute any of the points I made. Bye.
 
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femike

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i hope Apple releases a smaller flagship phone, ie with latest cpu, same ram. I don't mind if its thicker or has lcd screen.
 

sahnjuro

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Will 5G iPhones come with or without any price hikes? Does 5G mean iPhones will soon cost > $5000?
 

Brandhouse

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How do they expect to have a 5G chip in time for next year when they just acquired the team? It takes YEARS to produce a chip. Or was the Intel 5G chip already in the late design stages? Or maybe they only focus on sub-6Ghz 5G first and full 5G later?
Totally agree, Intel were never fast on delivery for new chips to Macs back in the day. Anytime I read that, All Powerful and Knowing Ming says..." I start to fall asleep. Ming's way out on this one.
 

@Brett

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Apple will absolutely not be supporting 5G in 2020. They will delay (as always) and fall behind other companies and then release it as some major new feature after they are already late to the party. Lol at anybody who thinks they’ll be leading in 5G devices right out of the gate. Not happening.
[doublepost=1564337480][/doublepost]It took them what, 3 or 4 years to bring copy & paste to iOS? But they’re gonna be among the first for 5G support? LOL.
Not too sure how you can be late to something that has barely started.
 

Roller

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There is no need to refute nonsense.

5G, just like all cellular tech before it, uses NON-IONIZING radiation. It has no effect on living tissues.

Dangerous radiation is IONIZING radiation. In order to get there you have to go to MUCH shorter wavelengths, through even the entire visible light spectrum until you get to ultraviolet. 6GHz is not even close to infrared light, which is still harmless. IR starts at 300GHz!

Stop being overly paranoid and trust the science.
That's not quite true. While ionizing radiation exposure, which can be acquired from medical and non-medical sources, is more concerning, RF energy does affect tissues by heating. The preponderance of evidence regarding human exposure suggests no link between cell phone use and carcinogenesis in humans, but research will no doubt continue, as it should.
 

128KMac

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How do they expect to have a 5G chip in time for next year when they just acquired the team? It takes YEARS to produce a chip. Or was the Intel 5G chip already in the late design stages? Or maybe they only focus on sub-6Ghz 5G first and full 5G later?
QUALCOMM - like it says in the article
 
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Bawstun

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Not too sure how you can be late to something that has barely started.
That’s kinda the point. They haven’t been innovators in the past and I don’t see how anybody expects their devices to be among the first with 5G support. It’s probably a cycle or possibly even two off. I would say by the time they support 5G everybody will be saying “Finally!!!!!”
 

Michvuee

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No point in upgrading to 2019 iPhone than. If you want to future-proof for 5G. I made the mistake of getting iPhone 4 when it didn’t support 4G when all other phones did back then and stayed with it until the Iphone 6 came out. Not making that mistake again with this years iPhone as I still have the 6
 

PickUrPoison

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And hopefully the smallest iPhone will also be available as a XR as well. I do not want to spend near 1K on a 5.4" iPhone.
If all three models are OLED and 5G, is there even an XR anymore? What would that look like? Because I don’t think anyone is going to want to pay an additional $250 for an extra camera lens.

The rumors we have so far have destroyed the expected feature differentiation. Maybe the new lineup, instead of the middle-sized model being the cheapest, will be something more like this:

5.4” $899
6.1” $999
6.7” $1,099

with feature parity, like the XS/XS Max.
 

Michael CM1

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Lol I hate to break it to you, butttt every company does this. It’s all marketing and hype to lure people in. Capitalism.

Every feature is groundbreaking and a “must have”.
5G getting pushed so hard that AT&T is all "let's just slap 5G on our phones with some buzzword -- ooh, evolution! -- to make people think we got it but we really don't."
 

ipedro

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I’m more interested in a 5G Apple Watch. That’s where the magic will really happen. Low power for better battery life and low latency and high speed to access Siri servers in real time. Now, we’re talking about a powerful supercomputer on our wrists.

The chip in the AppleWatch will only need to operate the OS and run apps but parsing conversation and crunching data can happen on Siri servers, enabling a powerful humanlike assistant on our wrists.
 

dampfnudel

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The more interesting aspect of all this is the fact that Qualcomm basically cut off their nose to spite the face as the old saying goes. Their greed and unethical business practices which led to market domination, and was (is) actively being investigated on an antitrust basis in both the US and Europe, directly or indirectly contributed to Intel's inability to compete successfully in the 5G arena.

Remember, the day after Qualcomm thought they won by locking Apple into a long term supply contract Intel folded their 5G tent. Now, several months later that business, and most importantly the associated patents, have been sold to Apple.

Apple is going to get the last laugh at the end of the day.
That depends on how good the Intel 5G modem is, if it’s inferior to what Qualcomm is offering, then the laugh will be on those who buy the 2021 or 2022 5G iPhone.
 

realtuner

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No point in upgrading to 2019 iPhone than. If you want to future-proof for 5G. I made the mistake of getting iPhone 4 when it didn’t support 4G when all other phones did back then and stayed with it until the Iphone 6 came out. Not making that mistake again with this years iPhone as I still have the 6
Ridiculous. I got the iPhone 5 with LTE and it STILL didn’t work everywhere properly. And my battery life sucked because of all the constant switching while it searches for a tower/connection. It was still a year before LTE became reliable/widespread. All those early adopters getting LTE phones never reaped any of the benefits until years later. And then they got stuck with a phone with an inferior modem.
 

Icaras

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If all three models are OLED and 5G, is there even an XR anymore? What would that look like? Because I don’t think anyone is going to want to pay an additional $250 for an extra camera lens.

The rumors we have so far have destroyed the expected feature differentiation. Maybe the new lineup, instead of the middle-sized model being the cheapest, will be something more like this:

5.4” $899
6.1” $999
6.7” $1,099

with feature parity, like the XS/XS Max.
Of course you need a XR in there. You can't have an entry price point of $899 for an iPhone. I just think that's an absurd price. When you consider that after the iPhone 8, they've stopped selling older models for cheaper, we're going to need something at $749 and under. Better yet, a 5.4" XR at $699 would be a return back to sanity, like how Apple just brought the price of the new Air back to down to $1099.
 
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Kabeyun

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“We believe that 5G Android smartphones, which will be sold at $249-349 USD, will only support Sub-6GHz. But the key is that consumers will think that 5G is the necessary function in 2H20. Therefore, iPhone models which will be sold at higher prices have to support 5G for winning more subsidies from mobile operators and consumers' purchase intention.”

Translation: 5G won’t be fully rolled out but customers won’t know/care, so phone makers had better feature it if they want to sell phones.

Hah, I love it!
 

patent10021

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No one will ever be able to tell me that 5G does not pose health risks. We are so screwed with 5G. Have your babies while you can because your eggs sperm are going to be fried.