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Kuo: Apple Mixed-Reality Headset May Not Appear at WWDC as Mass Production Pushed Back Yet Again
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No, you're not unusual.
"I'm not at all interested"
"this is another 3DTV"
"Maybe I'm the odd one out for being uninterested in VR"
are the three most common comments in these threads.
While I mostly play traditional videogames single player, most of my VR playtime is in multiuser apps. It's fun how much more expressive you can be in VR, even if that just means cubes representing your head and hands.
Apple's device will be VR with better passthrough than current VR headsets. The hardware will have much more in common with a Quest than with a Hololens/Magic Leap... unless pretty much every rumor about its capabilities is completely wrong.
I've spent 1000+ hours in VR. On the other hand, I've only spent a couple hours with phone/tablet AR, because other than the "that's pretty cool that they can do this" factor, there isn't much use for it, even for entertainment purposes. They just aren't similar experiences. Don't use bad AR to judge the value of good VR/AR.
What problem does the iPad solve that isn't solved by the iPhone and/or a laptop? Maybe the Pencil input? But most iPad users don't use the Pencil.
Don't bring facts into this. /s
Voice plus crude avatars in a shared VR setting can be more compelling than voice plus video.
I just don't see people wearing a device on their face when their primary focus isn't the digital content, unless it is truly the size of traditional glasses/sunglasses, and I don't think we are close to that. And if a person's primary focus is the digital content, an opaque VR-style device will provide much better visuals and usability, given current and near-future technology,
I specifically said, inspired by their VR/AR efforts. Which means I don't believe it to be a coincidence. Almost no one uses the AR features of phones/tablets, beyond silly face effects with the front-facing camera, so it's obvious Apple hasn't been putting all the effort into AR just for their current categories of devices.
But I'm not sure what you mean by the ARKit content already being here. Can you give an example?
Existing AR apps won't cut it. They will need to be updated.
I mean… this is clearly different. what do you think the “RealtyOS” and other leaks are all about? you think they were pulled from thin air and that there was no demo of this device at Apple recently?
at least we have pretty solid rumors and leaked parts. Apple Car is obviously a long way off and the TV set doesn’t really make sense. this mixed reality headset does.
Was expecting it to be announced at WWDC. Hopefully Apple will at least announce it this year.
I think these rumors are meant to throw us off like every year before the new iPhone comes out in September rumors come out that the new iPhone will be delayed or have limited quantities.
Yeah I was thinking of something similar. The latest batch of rumours indicated that it was close to being announced, disappointing if thats not the case.
Well that was a helpful comment.
If you were in charge of Apple marketing, what would you say?
Blackrock and Vanguard pushing tech companies to do stupid things and find new markets is nothing new.
Haha 😂 if you actually believed that then you’re more gullible than first thought. wWDC 2023 will be the same as the last 5 years , it will focus on software, with the iOS , OS Mac and iPad OS shown a better connection between them and updates to music and health.
so by that logic ever brand is being destroyed, if it takes years to destroying. Your literally just saying anything to suit your argument
They are limiting their products to what teenagers want .. mmm what ? They have designed a mix of products that cater to audience. They have laptops , phones that cater to all groups , and teenagers are your future audiences so why wouldn’t you target them ? All companies target teenagers , Samsung , Sony because that’s where the money is. But apple have laptops that target high end customers phones that target high end customers.
They have so many problems so they run to media ? Again every company is in trouble then .. since everyone jumped on the media bandwagon, when Netflix came out everyone started to make shows and movies, and want the rights to it it’s called market share , your expanding your brand and audience by entering new markets and attracting new customers
You are literally not making sense. You want tech innovation yet you can’t suggest the next tech innovation because it doesn’t work. Companies are being innovative they are taken products and innovating ways to use them. Apple have taken how you use the watch to a whole new level under Tim Cook before watches smart watches where limited to just a few things now we have watches that improved health, the iPhones have been innovating how you pay for stuff , how you talk to other devices through apple OS , before all that you had to use wires ans USB pens etc. apple car now allowing a better interaction with cars before that you couldn’t even get calls to work on a car
Does apple have problems of course they do , but they are like every company. They are getting various parts of their market and expanding their Brand. You don’t just cater to one audience and focus on people who want laptops or high end products, the world has changed and how you use devices has changed.
Finally someone gets it. That’s why apple have never realised one the market isn’t there
Apple Watch has a markert through health and fitness. The watch has helped that market and changed the way we interact with fitness and health. Let’s be honest here all these people who wanted VR/AR are the same people who most likely complained about wearing a mask during Covid and yet want to wear a headset to do what look at how you can view a pair of trainers ? Or a map , you can do that using your own eyes and going into a shop or a screen on laptop or phone
It would make sense if the software were the problem. I'm guessing the hardware and design are solid but the software just isn't amazing yet.
I owned Google Glass, and to this day it is still my favorite piece of tech and I buy tech gadgets all the time. Of course, creepy weirdos had to ruin it but there was nothing like having a heads up display on like that one was designed when driving, working, etc. It was actually quite ahead of its time way back then. If you never experienced Google Glass, you have no clue how amazing it was back then and I didn't even get the full experience because I used it with an iPhone. You could wear it day and night without any issues and I don't know how they did it, but the prism was angled in such a way that it was never really in your field of vision until you glanced up at it. If Apple could produce a product of similar design, I would be a buyer in a heartbeat. However, I am not going to strap goggles or some big headset onto my head for hours at a time. A design like that is an immediate no-go for me, and it always will be. We shall see what the future holds.
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I just work here Dave 🥴
I mean...yeah. What rock have you been living under for the last 15 years? For god's sake for six years it was nonstop Orange Man on TV that he actually got elected, where Kpop stars are idolized the world over taking over the personalities of many people, where Steve from Minecraft getting into Smash Bros crashed Twitter for hours, and where Ash Ketchum from Pokemon FINALLY winning a Pokemon League dominated ESPN news stories.
People want escapism.
Nothing about this came from Apple, and that includes the $3,000 price, which is roughly ten times the cost of a VR headset from the competition.
The Apple headset does not exist.
Those images bring up the idea that computers can see what the human eye can't. Will we have 'cyber-eyes' in the future to help navigate a cluttered and chaotic future. Hmm...
Specifically, which existing AR apps are you speaking of?
So Apple's collaboration with Stanford University AR/VR Laboratory for seven years does not have a purpose? And TC talking about the future of AR was a ruse to fool people into thinking Apple is pursuing a product?
Surely this thing should just be marketed as a dev kit, rather than consumer product?
Get developers hyped to make software that will one day be the basis of lightweight everyday AR (which is surely where the next tech advance in that area will be).
Get developers hyped to make software that will one day be the basis of lightweight everyday AR (which is surely where the next tech advance in that area will be).