I stand corrected.
The 68030 on the IIvx was the crippled version with a 16 bit bus, instead of the 32 bit bus. This I remember clearly because the IIvx was slower than my 25MHz 68030 IIci.
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Kuo: Apple Vision Pro Unlikely to Receive Major Upgrades Until 2027
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I have had a stressful day. I am sitting in a hectic house in noise cancelation on the night time shore of Mount Hood lake.
I can feel my blood pressure dropping. Having my own personal holodeck is some thing I cannot get from any other product.
I have a yard with a 12 foot high fence. That's why I can afford an AVP, but I prefer my yard.
I can feel some of the haters blood boil when they hear stats like that. LOL. The number of people who seem overly invested in seeing the Vision Pro fail is strange to me. My instinct tells me most people don’t have a vested interest one way or the other because it’s a niche product not in their price range at the moment but there’s a very vocal component who really seem to have it in for the device. My best guess is it’s the crowd who feels excluded because they can’t afford one so they feel this incessant, childish need to try and ruin it for those on the fence and those who bought the device because if they can’t have one then it’s obviously worthless and overpriced.
Everyone who is critical of the AVP is a "hater" or "broke" and feels excluded and is sad ...
Yeah, that's totally it
Or..
What if it's just not a compelling product on a whole bunch of fronts?
That doesn’t explain the glee in some people to declare it a failure moments after it was released.
Criticism is always fair.
These are rage addicts.
If I had a yard off a mountain lake and it wasn’t 48 degrees I’d be in business.
Because they’re disabled. Glasses are necessary.
Not on their faces.
If that’s the only benefit it has no real future.
Right. The backup argument.
A question for those who are so adverse to AVP: What is your vision regarding the technology (hardware) that, in combination with AI, will replace phones (and PC) in the future? I don't think it's a constant speed bump and a better camera or the screen getting bigger and bigger, right? Don't you think wearables and, indeed, the move from 2D to 3D is a plausible idea of the future? Today we live by constantly picking up and stowing iPhones in our pockets, but tomorrow information will always be with us. The AVP and current visors in general are only the first imperfect implementation of a new interaction with information. PS If you feel it is too cumbersome for your needs today or too expensive for your finances, just don't buy it (and maybe prefer to spend money every year for the next phone with a slightly better lens...) and have some patience for those who don't think like you and believe (perhaps wrongly) that AVP is a glimpse into the future.
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so you think people need to be nicer to the trillion dollar company about their wildly expensive toy?
also speaking for myself, i don’t have a vision for what will replace the phone. but im in good company cuz apple doesn’t either. we’re not there yet. the phone has gotten stale for sure, but that doesn’t mean we need a replacement. and whatever it is, it’s certainly not going to be something that’s embarrassing to use in front of other people.
Is there a ”proper” Vision Pro section to post threads in as I can’t see one under hardware ? Seems weird not to have one,,,,
I don't seem to have ever claimed "to be nicer to the trillion dollar company" but perhaps to be kind to those who appreciate the AVP. As for the so-called embarrassment, maybe it is today but maybe it will not be tomorrow. If you don't start you won't get better, don't you think? Finally, as the "wildly expensive toy" well if you look around, in our society we are plenty of them, you just have to choose the one you prefer. Simply someone prefers a "toy" other than AVP.
Glasses, not goggles.
People are wearing them already, some even for fashion reasons. There's a diverse and personal connection people have with their frames. This has the same connection and opening that the Apple Watch did as they thought about the first iterations.
They have to start with that form factor, not the features, and insert the capabilities they can in that space. Again, same as the Apple Watch. Customizable, sizable, tiered, personal, right out of the gate.
The telling thing for me is that yes I can afford an Apple Vision Pro. But no I don't want one. And I love tech. I bought the first iPhone, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch. But I just don't want it.
I feel entertained enough to watch some YouTube videos of people playing with iPhone Apps on a VR/AR headset. Yes it's all good, it floats in front of your face, as you'd expect from this device.
You can run the iPad version of Office apps, as you'd expect.
But one of the main uses demonstration on promotional videos is it use as a monitor for your Mac, something Oculus has been able to do for quite some time, as have other headsets, suing the various virtual desktop applications for pass through.
The time to buy will be when they become as small and light as a pair of glasses. When you don't have a weight on your head and straps over the top.
Just like mobile phones were niche in the 80s when you had to carry around a big box for the battery and so needed to be installed in a car and they were the size of a brick, but from the 90s onwards the tech became small enough to be truly mobile
www.pocket-lint.com
So IF apple continue to plough research money into their headset then maybe we will get to the point where it's miniaturised enough that we'll leave behind the 'big block on your head' and get something that is actually portable. This current version of Apple Vision Pro is the 2024 equivalent of an early 80s mobile phone. The idea is there, but it's clearly a niche, early adopter toy.
I feel entertained enough to watch some YouTube videos of people playing with iPhone Apps on a VR/AR headset. Yes it's all good, it floats in front of your face, as you'd expect from this device.
You can run the iPad version of Office apps, as you'd expect.
But one of the main uses demonstration on promotional videos is it use as a monitor for your Mac, something Oculus has been able to do for quite some time, as have other headsets, suing the various virtual desktop applications for pass through.
The time to buy will be when they become as small and light as a pair of glasses. When you don't have a weight on your head and straps over the top.
Just like mobile phones were niche in the 80s when you had to carry around a big box for the battery and so needed to be installed in a car and they were the size of a brick, but from the 90s onwards the tech became small enough to be truly mobile
The 13 most popular phones in the UK during the 1980s - revealed!
www.pocket-lint.com
So IF apple continue to plough research money into their headset then maybe we will get to the point where it's miniaturised enough that we'll leave behind the 'big block on your head' and get something that is actually portable. This current version of Apple Vision Pro is the 2024 equivalent of an early 80s mobile phone. The idea is there, but it's clearly a niche, early adopter toy.
100% agree. I'd love a follow up product to be released, Apple Vision Air, which focussed more on 'what can we fit in a stylish pair of glasses?'. Get them to team up with some eyewear designers, in the same way they pushed fashion for the early Apple Watches. There are so many brands from pure fashion through to sporty sunglasses, they're ripe for apple to get involved in.
I was more intrigued by Google glass's 'heads up display' feature than it having a camera that pointed outward. Would be cool if I could have a great pair of glasses with a clever display (such as you have on some cars) which had my notes to hand, access to an AI powered web browser which let me look things up quickly and read them, had google maps and directions etc.
It's something I'd _actually buy_ rather than Apple's headset.
Have apple come at the challenge from two angles and then maybe meet in the middle at some point in the future.
I am disabled.
I have cerebral palsy and a spinal fracture. Side note: I’m from the Himalayas… Kashmir to be specific.
Before my spinal injury I was a cadet officer in the Air Force Auxiliary. I know more about the Pratt & Whitney J58s than most people would ever care to.
The disabled aren’t monolithic. Some of us might find this pandering and insulting because we are very often driven to do what we are told we can’t do and go where we’re told we can’t go. This doesn’t solve that need.
Lastly, unless you yourself are disabled this is a really weird pivot.
I’m not a card others get to use to defend, of all things, a gadget.
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I’m sorry, you’re saying people who wear sunglasses have a disability? Glasses are extraordinarily common and millions of people are accustomed to wearing them. I had a hard time getting used to AirPod Pros because I usually didn’t seal things into my ear. My wife hates watches because she’s never worn one and it’s this heavy thing on her wrist. People adapt. Being accustomed to glasses predisposes people to that adaptation.
Future versions of Vision Pro will presumably have light seal improvements, allowing people to both completely seal themselves into a virtual environment or disregard them all together. I will be able to, like with my glasses, see peripherally with something lightweight on my face, but also through a visor see monitors on my desk at work that my employer won’t have to buy for me, receive notifications visually, track things with my eyes and have a private work environment.
I paid bills the other night while in-laws were over. I could see everyone in the kitchen as we were visiting, they could talk to me, but no one was peaking over my shoulder to see what I made.
Sorry, but same argument was made that the ipad was dead because it was nothing but a giant iPhone. I’m typing on one now.
The backup argument is that things will improve over time? My wife‘s first gen ipad was useless. My iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard is my laptop. Things improve. To deny this is desperation.