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Kuo: If Face ID is 'Well Received,' It's Likely 2018 iPhones Will Fully Adopt TrueDepth Camera
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I'm wondering if we'll be able to try FaceID in the Apple Store.
Surely they'll let you add your face to a demo phone and see how it works, right?
They had a way to allow people to test it at the Keynote hands on, so I imagine they have some special software to allow us to demo in store? That or perhaps the setup process is that quick that they run you through it in store for the demo?
I'm hoping for TouchID to return, because I see massive potential in the FaceID technology and would love to see it accessible by devs. As long as this technology is used for identification, I don't see Apple giving easy access to it. Think of its potantial as a mobile 3d scanner ... but if you open access to it, Apps could also collect faces (and therefore IDs). The dot projector etc. are marvellous ... I just prefer them not being means of authentification.
No need for a link. This is what it looks like with the capacitive tips on the glove ( the grey areas ). Got those about two years ago and they work fine. If you think it's pretty funny, it's actually common sense to use it for passcode entry. For TouchID, you just pull the gloves off. I only do that when indoors or when it warms up. I NEVER said the gloves allow Touch ID, let alone the fact it allows you to interact with touchscreens.
The few hands-on demos I saw used the Apple employee's face. That's why I wondered if they would let us try in the store when it is finally released.
It's definitely something I want to try myself (though I'll probably get the iPhone X anyway
)Not to be a total ass, but this a really dumb prediction. "If something works, they will keep doing it. But if it doesn't, they will try to something else." What a revelation Ming!
I find that hard to believe considering the rumors of Apple trying to embed BOTH technologies on the X. If Samsung can pull off a 'software' home button, Apple could've done so using the 3D Touch. Even if it's Plan B, it's a nice deflection on his part.
So for Apple to introduce the 8 with Thumb ID and then abruptly cut it off starting with X is a bit odd. Cook could've said on stage on the lines of " Starting next year, Face ID will be the standard and Thumb ID will be gone. Courage! ". I'm sure he didn't want to say it or it would incite a mob of angry press onto the stage.
Apple cannot go back to 9 and then 10 again because they already did the latter. The iPhone 8 is the last in the series and if Apple's smart, they're going to have to drop the price by next year. By Fall of 2018, the new X will still be $999 and the older X will drop down to probably $700-800, phasing out the 6 and 7s and keeping the SE (I'm betting they'll put the 7 specs in it by then ). The SE will probably be the ONLY model to have classic Thumb ID and the others Face ID.
Here is an entire market demographic that will never be able to use FaceID.
Also what about blind people? Didn't they tout how much the iPhone was handicap friendly before? I have blind friends who use the iPhone but lack the eye muscle control to "point" their eyes at the screen (or even know when or if they are) to have the proper ability which would be required unlock the phone using their face.
I'm not saying FaceID is a failure but I am a firm believer in options and having options available. There are tons of arguments to be made to keep TouchID without totally throwing it out with the bath water. The fact that you can't unlock without actively "looking at" the phone is a big reason for having a passive TouchID way of unlocking. What is the matter with having both options available, it doesn't require trashing one or the other. Options are good.
Also what about blind people? Didn't they tout how much the iPhone was handicap friendly before? I have blind friends who use the iPhone but lack the eye muscle control to "point" their eyes at the screen (or even know when or if they are) to have the proper ability which would be required unlock the phone using their face.
I'm not saying FaceID is a failure but I am a firm believer in options and having options available. There are tons of arguments to be made to keep TouchID without totally throwing it out with the bath water. The fact that you can't unlock without actively "looking at" the phone is a big reason for having a passive TouchID way of unlocking. What is the matter with having both options available, it doesn't require trashing one or the other. Options are good.
I think it's dead obvious the X and it's successor will be considered flagship. The 8 is the last in the series. By next year, that form factor is retired. Expect the X lineup to stay around the $999 price point each year as you probably won't see a cheaper one until 2019 that may come down close to $600.
Attention, all evil twins stay clear of iPhone X. Apple made two special ones for you, iPhone 8 & 8+
Suddenly have? No, hardly. I've been using those gloves for a couple of years.
You might want to give them a try. They work very well with my iPhone.
Boom! And Apple claims to be big on Accessibility issues with people with disabilities. WTF? You raise an excellent point that proves that Apple does NOT think of everything thoroughly.
The blind have option to turn eye attention off. As for the burka crowd, well there is iPhone 8.
The whole point of the conversation and article is that TouchID is being tossed for good. So you're "there is the iPhone 8" is a temporary solution. Im saying they should add TouchID in the next version under the screen as an "option" for those who cannot adapt when Apple removes that work around model.
Tossing features and removing options like this isn't progress or brave, its lazy and completely consumer hostile.
So for sake of evil twins add more cost to phone. No thanks, I vote the evil twins loose, sorry.
But that would add extra and necessary cost.
In order to realize the full potential of AR in a mobile phone, a technology Apple is pursuing aggressively, a high performance 3D camera is required inside the phone.
The fact that the same 3D camera can also be used to authenticate a user and unlock his/her phone (via FaceID), is secondary to Apple's main goal. That's a very efficient use of existing resources, and keeps costs down.
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Then why is the savings not passed on to the consumer? If its indeed more efficient, less parts, less expensive, why is the model with less options more expensive. Particularly in your claim that it is a secondary advantage to the main goal.
Me too. Apart from a few minor nagging concerns that I suspect it will turn out that Apple has already addressed I have nothing against FaceID at this point - how could I have when hardly anyone outside of Apple has tried it? Even so though I'm also going to wait for next year's 2nd generation model.
Even TouchID had a first iteration in the iPhone 5s and then at the iPhone 6 launch they talked specifically about 2nd gen TouchID that was even faster and more accurate than before. FaceID might well be the same, perfectly good enough in the first version but so fast and accurate as to be totally invisible to the user in the second generation.
Rumors leaked today that Apple, in effort to address the massive evil twin problem of the new Face ID will offer free surgery to one of any evil twin pair that can’t successfully secure their iPhone X from their twin. Alterations via plastic surgery to nose, chin, and eye line were deemed less expensive for the few thousand evil twin pairs than adding back in Touch ID on top of Face ID in future iPhones for every user.
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