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Kuo: Only iPhone 15 Pro Models Will Support Higher-Speed Data Transfers With USB-C Upgrade
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Why support data transfer at all on the non-pros's? 99.99% of non-pro owners probably never connect their phone to a pc or Mac for data transfer.
Technically I do wonder what it means. As the SoC will presumably be the same, it sounds like it is more licensing/royalty issue to disable certain "hardware" features?
Technically I do wonder what it means. As the SoC will presumably be the same, it sounds like it is more licensing/royalty issue to disable certain "hardware" features?
Well, if Apple had wanted, iPhone cable ports would have been much faster for a very long time - with Lightning connector.
They did it for iPads:
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They did it for iPads:
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I think the iPhone 15 (non pro) will get the A16 SoC and the iPhone 15 Pro will get a A17 SoC. So the A17 would support USB 3.X speeds.
Honestly it's been embarrassing that iPhone's still use USB 2.0 since 2016, 2018, 2020, etc.
The fact that in Fall 2023 only the high end iPhones will get to take advantage of a data transfer protocol that is over a decade old now is just... gross. Stop penny pinching Tim.
The fact that in Fall 2023 only the high end iPhones will get to take advantage of a data transfer protocol that is over a decade old now is just... gross. Stop penny pinching Tim.
Not at all since he usually seems to make very good decision.USB 2.0 in 2023? Definitely feels like a Tim Cook decision.
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What a world we live in. 😂 100+ comments on a new port and cable on a phone.
I presume there are some people who need the faster speeds, especially those filming Videos on iPhone, but as Apple sales reflect - everyone almost buys the Pro models nowadays - ever wonder how many of the iPhone users care about USB-C/Thunderbolt?
I think it's safe to assume, that a few will be thrilled and impacted by this, mostly others will not care that much unless USB-C on iPhone will become another symbol of status 😁
I presume there are some people who need the faster speeds, especially those filming Videos on iPhone, but as Apple sales reflect - everyone almost buys the Pro models nowadays - ever wonder how many of the iPhone users care about USB-C/Thunderbolt?
I think it's safe to assume, that a few will be thrilled and impacted by this, mostly others will not care that much unless USB-C on iPhone will become another symbol of status 😁
Apple: "forcing us to use USB-C is bad for progress and competition"
Nah, we like to keep our ecosystem on a leach. We give our customers the best technology there is ... as long as you buy pro ... and upgrade each two/ three years.
Bit of a dodgy “F U consumer” move, and all three customers still using their cable for data transfers will be very disappointed.
A14 iPad Air already supports USB 3.1.
For iPhone 15, Apple gets to save a few dimes by using USB 2.0 repeaters and redrivers. There is no technical limitation. This is all about saving money.
So if USB-C is the big next thing and drive sales the persicope cam will come into iphone 16.
I think the reason here is pretty simple. Lower end iPhones are going to be using the A16 chip of this year and I am guessing doesn’t support USB 3.0 speeds. A17 will be a new chip and it will. Hence Pro’s get this, non-Pro’s miss out.
I don’t see an issue, I don’t copy any data over USB really anyway but the people that are most likely to do that will probably buy a Pro model.
What’s interesting here is they mention 15 Pro Max. Other rumours suggest it’ll be a 15 Ultra.
PEOPLE WANTED USB C...........yes. good for the stockholders as well.
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A9X supports USB 3.0 as evidenced by the first Gen 12.9 inch iPad Pro so yeah
Maybe, but it does require different hardware support, so it’s not like it’s necessarily, say, a software limitation.
It might not. The EU legislation makes it optional, though. Personally I’d prefer they didn’t, but I realize that this is an emotional topic
Wasn’t there actually not just this one example of that, being reported not long ago? Now it’s “in many cases”?
The vast majority don’t use those, though.
Well, it requires USB PD, but that’s independent of USB data transfer standards. PD uses other pins to communicate.
iTunes Match or Apple Music, and let the music match or upload on the existing device.
Isn’t that pretty much what the pro-line of devices are by definition? Everywhere?
Well, maybe. But that iPad has extra hardware to support ”double sided” Lightning (regular is single side), so it’s not just the SoC at least.
But EU’s regulations don’t say anything about data transfer speeds.
This is their tried and true product segmentation strategy that we’ve seen expand every year since iPhones X and 8 launched and as the smartphone market has kept maturing.
I don’t know why anyone is expecting Apple to go in the opposite direction every year.
Less and less high end specs for SE and mid-tier iPhones, more and more reserved for Pro iPhones.
That’s the only way to maintain annual growth. So that’s the way it is.
And it certainly won’t change as long as Tim Cook is in control and turning as good a profit from it as he is.
Did he predict one more GPU core and 6GB RAM package? If not, he knew nothing about the chip for iPhone 14. From the size of factory orders some basic knowledge can be inferred, such as that a few million chips are still produced on 5nm not 4nm. From that you can draw a lucky conclusion, but that's not the same as having intimate knowledge of Apple's plans.
You literally ignore the people who transfer large size or data frequently, such as offline music library and video library, to watch on the go or whatnot.
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Why bother selling iPhone? Just lease out those iPhone and people pay different tier to unlock certain features. How about $1.99/day to unlock App Store? $2.99/day to unlock phone call and sms app. $9.99/day to use camera app.
Yes, but artificial product segmentation comes before streamlining products as it’s a good way to push consumers up another step on the value ladder, or just get you to buy a more expensive configuration for no other reason than Apple having artificially disabled certain features on the baseline configuration.Well, if Apple had wanted, iPhone cable ports would have been much faster for a very long time - with Lightning connector.
They did it for iPads:
iPad Pro's Lightning Port Supports USB 3.0 Transfer Speeds, New Adapters in the Works
Apple's larger-screened iPad Pro includes a Lightning port that's capable of supporting USB 3.0 speeds, according to both an iFixit teardown...
Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter
Übertrage Fotos und Videos auf dein iPad Pro mit dem Lightning auf USB 3 Kamera-Adapter. Jetzt online auf apple.com kaufen.www.apple.com
This is seen with nearly all modern Apple products.
Like Apple and its fanboys say, “you spent so little so you clearly don’t need the thing that was cut anyway. People that really need x, y, and z would spend whatever we’ve set the price to on the models that habe x, y, and z. If you don’t have $999+ then you only need the features that $429 or $799 can get you.”
Typical response of “huh, I never connect my phone to a computer so EVERYONE ELSE must follow my suite and embrace portless and wireless“ regardless of wireless performance, stability, battery consumption etc etc.
airdrop was great until it was not. Sidecar connected wirelessly got disconnected shortly (less than 2 min) after being connected almost all the time when “idle” when it is supposed to not do so. Apple still can’t make sure to lock in the correct Wifi signal unless device is literally next to the router (no, it’s not a router problem. Windows PC handles it nicely). Wifi 6? What’s that?