OLED is a big nope đź‘Ž from me and many others...not sure why the obsession. The new XPS 15 gets horrible battery life with OLED. Not ready for primetime at all.
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Kuo Says New MacBook With Scissor Keyboard to Launch in Mid 2020, Unclear if 16-Inch Model Delayed
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I have to agree that OLED is a big no! I would worry about burn-in. I think the next evolution would be micro-LED displays. That's what has been circulating in the rumor mill.
As far as a touchscreen, I think the only way to make it successful would be a detachable screen where you either can use your MacBook as a laptop or an iPad. However, with Apple having such huge success with its iPad, I would doubt they would endanger that product with a convertible laptop.
Apple Pencil support on a fixed MacBook Pro screen would be a pretty good idea -- especially for the ability to make annotations and sign documents.
As far as a touchscreen, I think the only way to make it successful would be a detachable screen where you either can use your MacBook as a laptop or an iPad. However, with Apple having such huge success with its iPad, I would doubt they would endanger that product with a convertible laptop.
Apple Pencil support on a fixed MacBook Pro screen would be a pretty good idea -- especially for the ability to make annotations and sign documents.
I have a 7 year old MacBook pro which no longer meets my needs (it has been an amazing machine). I refuse to buy a windows machine. Forced to use one at work and windows is simply an operating system designed to enforce policies on users instead of enabling productivity. Its not all bad of course but its hard to stomach when you are used to MacOS.
I'd probably be happy with an iMac but am concerned by the lack of T2 chip (and would prefer more USB-c ports). The MBP 16" was to be the target machine but its not clear when it will arrive. I am seriously considering building a Linux box and remote into it from my MBP.
I'd probably be happy with an iMac but am concerned by the lack of T2 chip (and would prefer more USB-c ports). The MBP 16" was to be the target machine but its not clear when it will arrive. I am seriously considering building a Linux box and remote into it from my MBP.
I'm thinking a Halloween release is coming, so the Apple marketing gurus can claim, "It's SCARY good!"
Seriously, wouldn't it make sense to release this now, in the same chassis as the 15", as a test bed for the new keyboard design before they go ahead and replace the keyboard across all lines? Just my two cents...
Seriously, wouldn't it make sense to release this now, in the same chassis as the 15", as a test bed for the new keyboard design before they go ahead and replace the keyboard across all lines? Just my two cents...
Keep in mind the second to last time Koh made a prediction relating to the keyboard it was that the Air would get it in an October refresh and the 16” Pro seemed to not be getting it and would stay with the butterfly.
Three days later or so the Air was refreshed as part of a mid year refresh with no keyboard changes.
Days after that the story changed and it was now the 16” getting the keyboard and talk of a late 2019 Air vanished entirely.
Not saying Koh has a bad track record, but he’s been a bit over the shop in regards to the keyboard replacement.
Three days later or so the Air was refreshed as part of a mid year refresh with no keyboard changes.
Days after that the story changed and it was now the 16” getting the keyboard and talk of a late 2019 Air vanished entirely.
Not saying Koh has a bad track record, but he’s been a bit over the shop in regards to the keyboard replacement.
It's coming this week. This Week. THIS WEEK!
Or in six months from now. Maybe.
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Why would anyone want this on a MacBook anyway? The UI is hardly touch friendly and wouldn’t the perfect trackpad be far more comfortable (and accurate) than reaching out to touch a screen? This is a serious question....I never understood the want ( or need) for a touch screen on a non-convertible laptop. It seems pointless when the trackpad or mouse is better for pretty much everything. What benefit would a touch screen offer on a MacBook?
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Dell’s latest XPS 15 has a speedy processor and gorgeous display, but it isn’t a slam dunk
OLED and Core i9 come with compromises
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The real question is: did anybody really think that Apple was going to release a 16" model on its own this year that only differed from the 15" by a slightly bigger screen (the existing screen is 15.4" so not necessarily even a full inch) and a new keyboard? The answer is yes because of multiple rumours supposedly from reliable industry sources apparently confirmed by icons of a 16" MBP turning up in Mac OS 10.15.1 beta - something you wouldn't expect secretive Apple to include until the last minute before launch.
Once you accept that as a possibility, then all bets are off, because it would be a somewhat irregular thing for Apple to do anyway. One quite plausible conclusion was that they'd rushed forward a future design in order to address (real or perceived) problems with the keyboard - plenty of people have pointed out that a keynote consisting of "Er... the screen is bigger - look, I'm holding a tape measure to it and, um, well the keyboard doesn't have the problems that the old one, er, didn't have..." might best be avoided.
Or, of course the 16" might still be launched tomorrow, or next week, or March, or WWDC, or WWDC 2021, or Apple might turn up at the Thanksgiving parade with a Mac-shaped float. No laws of physics would be broken. A 16" icon still appeared in MacOS without any hint of (say) a matching 14" so the game is still afoot.
Thing is, we all have lots of fun trying to read the tea leaves and predict what Apple is going to do based on inconclusive hints and rumours. Then some people spoil it by declaring that their personal reading of the runes is the absolute truth and everybody else is wrong and foolish...
Nobody who actually knows is likely to jeopardise their career, and nobody who anonymously leaks commercially sensitive information can be 100% trusted.
I wouldn't want a touchscreen mainly for the fingerprints.
Apple Pencil support is another thing. Perfect for signing documents or doing annotations and/or drawings.
...and BRAVO to Dell for OLED. However, that is not the future of laptop screens. Apple has already been looking into Micro-LED
I'm just getting fed up of waiting after selling my 2018 model 2 months ago in anticipation of the next gen coming out. C'mon Apple stop pissing on your "Prosumers" !! I mean really !.... the Mac Pro is way overpriced and out of date already!!
Hahaha! I did the same thing to maximize resale value. Sold my loaded 2018 15" two months ago as well.
In the meantime, I bought 2019 13" MBP to hold me over (and for travel purposes).
This year's chips are unbelievably fast. My 2018 15" was an i9 and 2019 13" is an i5. I can hardly tell the difference for basic tasks
Sales numbers say otherwise. MacBooks aren’t selling well and laptop sales are down. But we know Tom doesn’t care about Mac sales, iPhone and dongle says are his priority!
I know I’m not touching any of these laptops until they are updated with a real keyboard solution. I don’t care about free warranty, I want to avoid problems, not constantly visit an Apple store.
You realize you wouldn't have to actually use the touchscreen, right? But others that don't care about fingerprints could enjoy the benefits of it. So it should be a win-win - if Apple gave people the option...
Yes, you're right. My laptop was the 2.6 i7 32gb RAM 512gb, Vega 16 version.
For the moment I'm using my Parents iPad Pro which they don't really use that much, but am restricted what I can do on it as some software is not yet on the iPad.
I have custom built all my own PCs for many years and there is so much technology that Apple has just " ignored" which in my view is dangerous to do. Next Gen Threadripper is around the corner and now can support TB3 and has already been using Quad Channel like some of Intels range of cpus, that is just one example. It's not just about numbers, it's bandwidth as well. !
For the moment I'm using my Parents iPad Pro which they don't really use that much, but am restricted what I can do on it as some software is not yet on the iPad.
I have custom built all my own PCs for many years and there is so much technology that Apple has just " ignored" which in my view is dangerous to do. Next Gen Threadripper is around the corner and now can support TB3 and has already been using Quad Channel like some of Intels range of cpus, that is just one example. It's not just about numbers, it's bandwidth as well. !
The iMac Pro was introduced at WWDC 2017.
Yes it was released a lot later but it still was featured at an event. I agree that a redesign of the MBP will need a mention at an event before a release.
Nice... I’m taking this to mean the 16” is the one coming out mid-2020... so that probably means the 13” and other Macs won’t get the new keyboard until late 2020 at the earliest. Which also means I’m stuck with my 2014 Air another year.
To be fair, Apple never said they were releasing anything this month. For all we know it was always scheduled for next yea.
So, from february to june, then september, then october, then 2020, then Apple release some service, then born Skynet, then another delay because the terminators destroy the line production, then Piccolo poke his son within a egg to the line production of the new keyboard that cause another delay, then Kuo predicts the line production will be in the moon and if you want to get one you will need to made a rocket capable to travel to the moon and finally, the major tom, so angry because he was not dead and did not receive any help, destroy the moon.
I will buy a Raspberry Pi
I will buy a Raspberry Pi
I don't know guys.. Looking at the icon leak we saw, this doesn't seem like a major redesign at all..
Slight screen stretch and perhaps a keyboard tweak, but otherwise the same machine.
I'm not positive that would warrant an event, particularly for a Mac bump.
It's 2019, not 2009 (or earlier). The Mac is so back burner these days overall.
Slight screen stretch and perhaps a keyboard tweak, but otherwise the same machine.
I'm not positive that would warrant an event, particularly for a Mac bump.
It's 2019, not 2009 (or earlier). The Mac is so back burner these days overall.
Kuo did not "say" this at all.
Kuo repeated what he had previously said, that the rest of the MacBook line would receive these updates next year.
He does not comment on the 16" Pro at all. This is entirely Macrumors speculating.
Kuo repeated what he had previously said, that the rest of the MacBook line would receive these updates next year.
He does not comment on the 16" Pro at all. This is entirely Macrumors speculating.