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Laptop Ban May Expand to Flights Coming to U.S. From Europe
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Would you like to suggest a figure, expressed as a percentage of all scheduled flights?
That might be more meaningful that citing two cases from the 80s, one of which wasn't even successful.
Your luggage and your hand luggage are check in the same way, so not a bad remark after all.
Right, back then laptops had the size and weight off a suite case....
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You must be like 100 plus or something
I think in NYC foreign tourists are a third of the total but account for half of the spending.
I believe that American said they were going to remove the screens on the seats because everyone has a tablet or phone and can stream from their systems. Looks like that may not happen.
This whole ban does not make any sense as far as safety is concerned. *any* electronic device except phones are banned.
How much explosive can anyone hide in a still functioning iPad Mini, or even an iPad Air? Yet a phablet phone is allowed. Clearly the threat does not come from replacing a large portion of the battery in an iPad with an explosive. Besides these devices are scanned separately and such modifications are visible on a scan and also detectable by the explosive sniffers.
So, if we rule the explosives out, how else an iPad can be used as a terrorist device? Hacking the guidance system of the airplane? Heck there is hardly any difference in computing power between an iPhone and an iPad, so that can't be it either.
Another flaw in the logic is that, this ban is effective on flights originating from Europe. Don't terrorist operate from within the US? If I remember correctly all 9/11 flights were domestic US flights.
There is a lot of BS behind this rule and nothing convincing to defend the reasoning has surfaced yet. Oh yea, we all know that it's all "top secret" and they cannot reveal anything for the sake of public safety.
How much explosive can anyone hide in a still functioning iPad Mini, or even an iPad Air? Yet a phablet phone is allowed. Clearly the threat does not come from replacing a large portion of the battery in an iPad with an explosive. Besides these devices are scanned separately and such modifications are visible on a scan and also detectable by the explosive sniffers.
So, if we rule the explosives out, how else an iPad can be used as a terrorist device? Hacking the guidance system of the airplane? Heck there is hardly any difference in computing power between an iPhone and an iPad, so that can't be it either.
Another flaw in the logic is that, this ban is effective on flights originating from Europe. Don't terrorist operate from within the US? If I remember correctly all 9/11 flights were domestic US flights.
There is a lot of BS behind this rule and nothing convincing to defend the reasoning has surfaced yet. Oh yea, we all know that it's all "top secret" and they cannot reveal anything for the sake of public safety.
The answer is drugs, ingest before passing through TSA line. Sleepy cattle are easier to herd on and off the plane.
You can fly with civilized airlines.
So are you specifically saying all Muslims are Terrorist then?
Your post is exactly what is wrong with this world.
True.
I already checked the measures they are allowing on the flights from the middle east, and compared with the existing devices. The iPhone 7 Plus barely fits, but not the iPad mini.
But, after thinking a bit more, I feel that the response that consists in adapting by buying new devices to follow these recommandations is wrong. The right passenger response would be to say "No More", by flying less, by flying somewhere else, or by not flying at all. Only this can take airlines and authorities to a more reasonable way of handling the security threats. Otherwise, next year, there will be yet another rule that will ban phablets, and what will we do next ? Buy smaller smartphones ? This will just never end.
Similarly, I think the "just buy a regular book" response that came up upthread is short sighted as well. It is just a matter of time before some stupid terrorist make a book bomb, and those go on the forbidden items list as well.
Another thought: the goal of terrorists is to make us act with a feeling of fear in our everyday life; it is unclear they do have any more constructive agenda at this point; by adding ever more stupid rules, we are just giving the only victory they can get, is it not ironic ?
I still think the safety argument is not the real reason behind this ban. So, let's say a phablet is allowed. Good, then 10 terrorist get on a flight, put 10 explosive phablets together and detonate simultaneously. So, now we have more explosive power than a stupid iPad. There is no way to stop the determined terrorists by inflicting restrictive rules on innocent passengers.
US is really naive when it comes to safety rules. Most European airports have scanners even at the entrance. That way a terrorist with a suitcase of explosives, pretending to be a passenger, cannot even enter the building without going through a preliminary security scan. Yet, in the US, a terrorist can walk in with a cart full of suitcases (bombs) and detonate it in the middle of the most crowded areas. Heck, no need to bring a plane down. There are just as many people inside the check-in areas if not more.
US is really naive when it comes to safety rules. Most European airports have scanners even at the entrance. That way a terrorist with a suitcase of explosives, pretending to be a passenger, cannot even enter the building without going through a preliminary security scan. Yet, in the US, a terrorist can walk in with a cart full of suitcases (bombs) and detonate it in the middle of the most crowded areas. Heck, no need to bring a plane down. There are just as many people inside the check-in areas if not more.
Absolutely ridiculous. There is no way I'm leaving my MBP & iPad in my luggage to be lost, stolen or smashed.
the ban has nothing to do with battery health. It's about the idea that someone could figure out a way to purposefully blow up the batteries in flight. which is why they don't want anyone to have access to their computer. but they could do the same with anything with a lithium battery. so they might as well ban folks from any form of electronics on all flights foreign or domestic. and when I say ban I mean not even in luggage. those nasty terrorists will always find a way after all
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actually being overcautious can be a total fail. Folks tend to be overcautious in one very public manner. so those that want to do mischief just find another way to do so. can't use a cell phone to set off a bomb in area X, well a trunk running through it will cause a lot of destruction.
Loving all these stupid comments hating on President Trump, as if he's to blame for terrorism, or is puppeteering the DHS. The Euros in here decrying the right to own firearms in the US as a security concern is downright laughable.
Europe has created its own terrorism problems by taking in tens of millions of illiterate, unskilled migrants from undeveloped Muslim countries. It boggles my mind how they still wonder how things like the Christmas attacks or Sweden bus massacre happened...
The ignorance in here is so thick you could cut it with a butter knife.
Europe has created its own terrorism problems by taking in tens of millions of illiterate, unskilled migrants from undeveloped Muslim countries. It boggles my mind how they still wonder how things like the Christmas attacks or Sweden bus massacre happened...
The ignorance in here is so thick you could cut it with a butter knife.
The irony to all of this, of course, is that teleconferencing is going to replace most business travel because it's cheaper to move electrons and photons than people.
Anyway, it's one thing to debate limiting a freedom if that is 100% effective in combating terrorism, but no doubt the terrorists will simply switch to another strategy. Crowds on sidewalks seem more vulnerable these days than people on planes.... A determined terrorist will always get through.
Anyway, it's one thing to debate limiting a freedom if that is 100% effective in combating terrorism, but no doubt the terrorists will simply switch to another strategy. Crowds on sidewalks seem more vulnerable these days than people on planes.... A determined terrorist will always get through.
If this moronic administration is so concerned with people dying then why don't they declare cigarettes and alcohol illegal. i'm sure far more Americans are killed by drunk drivers, liver disease and lung cancer than terrorist attacks.
Such as? I prefer Lufthansa as it is, but if they are flying to the USA, they are still bound to the same rules. The no screen thing was a being pitched to the industry as a whole. So...
I don't get back to the USA that often, so I really don't have a dog in the fight, but I do find it funny they are starting to ban them from Europe.