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How sad. These type of lawsuits are for the morons that think they deserve something because they were inconvenienced. Return the phone and move on. Apple doesn't owe you anything except a big F-U for being an idiot. They're a pretty good company, I'm sure they'll make your phone work right in no-time.

Just wait until someone sues you for slipping on your lawn.
 
I just don't want lawyers involved. They don't care about anyone or anything except themselves and making money.

I guarantee you if this case actually made it to trial and won, we would see $10-$20, which is useless. While the lawyers receive millions and Apple's bottom line is completely screwed.

The lawyers will win if there's a lawsuit.. not the consumers.

How else do you propose consumers force Apple to admit this is a problem and fix it? I don't like lawyers or CALs either, but if this is what it takes for Apple to fix an obvious flaw, then so be it. Obviously people returning the iPhone and the bad press it's gotten hasn't been enough, or I would think Apple would at least release a "We're working on it" statement to stem the amount of returns.
 
No way am I waiting "weeks" to have a phone that works properly. Thank goodness someone is taking the initiative to get this done and send the message to Apple that simply saying "hold your phone differently" is completely unacceptable.

Oh, and I don't want one of those ugly bumpers... that's not a fix.

Patience is a virtue. In the time being you can't simply hold your phone a little differently? I don't even naturally hold my phone that way when making calls.
 
This is garbage. Lawyer garbages.
They can't formulate a case and they know it!
But they will get free publicity.
Parasites at best, Apple just need the correct pesticide for these worms.
 
A law suit because people can't hold a phone correctly?!?!?
:eek:

Bloody ridiculous!!

This is suche a ridculous reply, there is no "right" way to hold a phone. I have never owned a phone that actually lost signal because of the way I held it.

This is just pure and simple apple fan boy bs in its purest. Apple...the way we do it is the right way, the ONLY right way.

This lawsuit should lite a fire under apples ass at least.
 
this thread.... is useless. :)


If anyone starts a class action prior to Apple releasing a fix or official statement, I will join Apple's defense.
 
i dont have an iphone 4. so i pose this question to people who do have one and have the signal change because of how they hold it.

is there any actual change in call quality when you hold it differently or is it just the bars go down and you cant tell the difference?
 
Works On Contingency? No! Money Down!

I'd definitely use Lionel Hutz as my attorney.

Seriously, though, this is just a PR grab by the company. I doubt they could get an actual class action suit approved by the courts for all the reasons stated especially the fact they can return the devices. I'm sure they'll fix the problem (assuming there is one) in due time. If they don't, that's when action may be necessary.
 
How else do you propose consumers force Apple to admit this is a problem and fix it? I don't like lawyers or CALs either, but if this is what it takes for Apple to fix an obvious flaw, then so be it. Obviously people returning the iPhone and the bad press it's gotten hasn't been enough, or I would think Apple would at least release a "We're working on it" statement to stem the amount of returns.

Can we give them at least a week? They probably don't want to make a release until they're absolutely sure they can fix the issue without a recall or something of the matter. It's only Tuesday... a little early for lawyers to get involved. If it comes down to needing lawyers and all other options have been exhausted, then so be it.

It's just really premature to get the courts involved.
 
This is garbage. Lawyer garbages.
They can't formulate a case and they know it!
But they will get free publicity.
Parasites at best, Apple just need the correct pesticide for these worms.

What about apple making a product that works and then communicating with the public about problems if they exist?

If microsoft had released a phone with this issue you guys would think a class action suit would be totally in the right.
 
i say WE sue the law firm!!! who's with me!!!
maybe steve jobs lends us his lawyers for that :D
 
Steve Jobs said there is no issue. So to all the angry fanboys here, you got nothing to worry. iPhone 4 has no reception issue so lawyers don't have a case. It's as simple as that. :D
 
i dont have an iphone 4. so i pose this question to people who do have one and have the signal change because of how they hold it.

is there any actual change in call quality when you hold it differently or is it just the bars go down and you cant tell the difference?

The Call drops. We lefties can't hold it and make a call at all, I have had to use a headset ever time which is a pain for me.
 
i dont have an iphone 4. so i pose this question to people who do have one and have the signal change because of how they hold it.

is there any actual change in call quality when you hold it differently or is it just the bars go down and you cant tell the difference?

Dropped calls 3g internet doesn't work you dont have to take my word for it though 100's of videos on youtube.
 
So there going to spend all that money on a laywer not not win and still have a messed up phone. Or just buy a bumper for 30$ and deal with it, and I am left handed so the bumper got the job done
 
No way am I waiting weeks to have a phone that works properly. Thank goodness someone is taking the initiative to get this done and send the message to Apple that simply saying "hold your phone differently" is completely unacceptable.

Oh, and I don't want one of those ugly bumpers... that's not a fix.

+1.

If it really is just a defect...come out with a press release and tell me I can walk into Apple Store and come out with one that doesn't have this issue when I hold my phone. A bumper and telling me how I have to hold my phone is not an option...I hold it the same as I did on all my other iPhones...

I just don't want to waste time now going into Apple getting a new phone, backing up, restoring and find out problem exists.
 
Patience is a virtue. In the time being you can't simply hold your phone a little differently? I don't even naturally hold my phone that way when making calls.

This is the way I naturally, comfortably hold my phone:

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There's really no other place for my fingers to go. I'm actually surprised anyone can hold the phone at all and NOT have the problem. Note that I'm holding it in my right hand (this is not a "left-handed" issue as some would have you believe), and it's the same way Apple has even demonstrated it in their promotional materials. I don't think I am doing anything unreasonable here.
 
Steve Jobs said there is no issue. So to all the angry fanboys here, you got nothing to worry. iPhone 4 has no reception issue so lawyers don't have a case. It's as simple as that. :D
Steve Jobs has never said there is "no issue". He has used the words "non-issue" but that is completely different.
 
Yeah, I can return the phone. That's great. What about the phone I sold to be able to get this one, the one that was supposed to be superior in call reception due to the new antenna design? What about my time looking for another device that's in good condition (like the one I sold) that I don't lose my ass on? I could go on.

Now I'm not going to return the phone, but saying "oh you can just return it" doesn't completely fly.
It's more involved than just taking a shirt or something back to wal-mart. Let's say someone isnt as up to speed on this issue like most of us are. Let's say in 2 months someone starts noticing that there phone seems to lose signal when they hold it this certain way and it's not just crappy AT&T, and bring it to the attention of an apple store employee, and they tell the person not to hold it like that. Well now they are out of the return window, and have to deal with some flaw/defect due to apple.

This isn't a small glitch. Some people it effects very little, some people it makes the phone unusable for. With the amount of money paid, these things should be top notch. If fear of a lawsuit makes apple step up and fix it, and further test their products better in the future then I'm all for it.
 
I tried to call them but my call kept getting dropped. Guess I was holding my phone wrong. Oh well... lol j/k :D
 
What about apple making a product that works and then communicating with the public about problems if they exist?

If microsoft had released a phone with this issue you guys would think a class action suit would be totally in the right.

Yep exactly.

I am a big "fanboi" as anyone here, but the people defending Apple are just insane! They obviously either don't have an iPhone 4, don't have a DEFECTIVE iPhone 4, or are so drunk on the RDF they vehemently defend Apple on every turn.

All Apple needs to do is come clear one way or the other, if they are working on it let us know, we calm down, the lawyers go away everyone wins.

If to Apple there is no issue then let us know... this "stay tuned" nonsense is not something I'd expect from Apple TBH.

I don't want the expense of returning my phone, buying another phone, changing my plans all up just when a "fix" comes I have to spend $ all over again.
 
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