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Speaking of which, it would be interesting to know the gender purchase ratio of the iPhone. I am guessing more women buy iPhones than men.

I don't have some masculinity issue with the new wallpapers, albeit I do see them as being a little more feminine. If I liked them, I would use them. Not my cup of tea.

But it does sound like you have a masculinity issue. You said it’s not but also assume more women buy iPhones than men. What’s your basis for that assumption?
 
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But it does sound like you have a masculinity issue. You said you don’t but also assume more women buy iPhones than men. What’s your basis for that assumption?
I made a guess. It was not written as a declarative statement nor was it meant to be interpreted in such a way. It wasn't a scientific guess. That is why I wondered if there were actual figures somewhere.

And if you read my post in full context, I made it clear, that I don't have a problem with the wallpapers (even if they strike me as being a little more feminine) and would use them if I liked them.

Are you looking to argue for the sake of arguing?
 
Interesting thanks. Was gonna install on my iPad. But Apple stopped signing it. Really wanted to know how it runs without all the extra beta bloatware.
Yeah me too. Guess we wait til Tues. I went ahead and downloaded the IPSW so it wont get caught in the mad rush :)
 
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Do we have an estimated price for the Apple Watch with lte? Are we thinking the hardware inside will be revised too (thinking behind just the lte modem).

I need to ready myself for this expenditure lol. I think I’ll likely spring for the version with sapphire screen but we are probably talking $670 :confused: On top of the 2-3 iPhones the family wants.
 
You clearly don’t. See if your TV remote suddenly stops working when you turn off the lights.

I meant unlocking my current phone with Touch ID in the dark vs. using face ID.

With everything going on in the world, did what I original post truly tick you off that much that you needed to spend a few seconds to write something condescending rather than try to understand what I was asking?
 
That other phone has a IR Iris scanner, pin input, a finger print scanner, and face recognition. Much better options than just face ID and pin input like the AMOLED iPhone.

Furthermore, new reviewers are reporting the note 8 can't be tricked which is interesting. I couldn't trick mine with a photo of myself. https://www.sammobile.com/2017/09/07/no-galaxy-note-8s-face-recognition-cant-fooled-photo/

IR Iris scanner needs to be used very close to the eyes. Fingerprint scanner on the back that’s located in an oddball location, Face recognition that works but not guaranteed for security even Samsung states this... yeah much better options. We still don’t know how well Face ID would work on new iPhone but at least it will work way better.
 
I made a guess. It was not written as a declarative statement nor was it meant to be interpreted in such a way. It wasn't a scientific guess. That is why I wondered if there were actual figures somewhere.

And if you read my post in full context, I made it clear, that I don't have a problem with the wallpapers (even if they strike me as being a little more feminine) and would use them if I liked them.

Are you looking to argue for the sake of arguing?
They aren't exactly feminine. They're very LGBT friendly. Not in my interest either, I hate bright colors. But we can always use our own wallpapers anyway so I don't really care. My fiancé draws custom wallpapers for me.

That aside my interest in the new phone has dwindled, I don't like the idea of faceID. Might just skip this round. We'll see on Tuesday. The Watch is still a waste. My Gen1 still sits in box on the shelf a month after I bought it. No need to get another one.
 
That’s what I want to know. There have been some good movie sales on itunes lately and I don’t want to be burned with an upgrade price. But maybe they’ll upgrade existing content and make you pay more for new content and I’ll get burned by not buying more movies now.
4K Blu Ray discs are more expensive to buy than standard Blu disks, so I expect Apple to charge more too.

I just wish the big film studios would strike a deal with Apple to offer new films, I'd happily pay a premium for the latest blockbuster, if I could watch it in the comfort of my own living room.
 
I meant unlocking my current phone with Touch ID in the dark vs. using face ID.

With everything going on in the world, did what I original post truly tick you off that much that you needed to spend a few seconds to write something condescending rather than try to understand what I was asking?

Still sounds like you think faceID won’t work in the dark. What was your point if not that?
 
They aren't exactly feminine. They're very LGBT friendly. Not in my interest either, I hate bright colors. But we can always use our own wallpapers anyway so I don't really care. My fiancé draws custom wallpapers for me.

That aside my interest in the new phone has dwindled, I don't like the idea of faceID. Might just skip this round. We'll see on Tuesday. The Watch is still a waste. My Gen1 still sits in box on the shelf a month after I bought it. No need to get another one.
I plan on purchasing the X model and testing it for the 14 days. That way, I know for sure if I will like it or just need to keep my 7 Plus. I don't think it wise to make a decision based in specs alone, come Tuesday. And I have no doubt, that the complaining about the new phone will only intensity on the forums Tuesday. Not going to let such ranting affect me making an objective decision.

As to wallpapers, I usually use ones I find online. On occasion I have used one of the stock apps.
 
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I really want a LTE Apple Watch

As a gen 1 owner, I really want an Apple Watch with a compass. I know gen 2 has GPS, but nobody has been able to tell me if that also includes a compass. I've heard that it's difficult to engineer with all the magnets in the device.

That would make the Apple Watch the best navigation device for pedestrians or cyclists. Currently it makes a good attempt, but isn't accurate enough.

An LTE Watch would only be marginally useful without a massive software overhaul, because it's still very tightly tied to your phone. I can't use my Watch to control iPad, Mac or AppleTV-only apps and it doesn't treat those devices as equals to my phone. For example, I'd like to tell Siri to "pause the AppleTV" or the music coming from my Mac.
 
I think with a combination of closer proximity, raise to wake, confirmation on the watch (or maybe even a "tap/shake/twist watch to unlock iPhone") it could be a cool feature. I'm sure there will be some curmudgeonly responses that a flagship phone shouldn't be so dependent on an accessory, but the complete ecosystem approach is what many love about  to begin with.
Probably comes with a dongle of some sort. Works like the push button start on cars, just keep it in your pocket. :)

All new wallpapers are girl kid ones rainbow and flowers thanks apple
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You should take a pic of your car while changing the oil and use that! Seriously though, you realize you can use most anything as your wallpaper yes? There are millions out there better than the stock ones anyway. One app you should check out is called Wallpapers (maybe Wallpapers 2017). That has so many your head will spin trying to select one and has a preview option as well.

girly? how old are you? do you walk through nature and point to flowers and say they're girly? ugh what a stupid thing to think.
I like flowers as much as the next guy (in the yard) but not sure I want a flowered wallet or tool bag or phone for that matter. Just sayin.
 
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I really don't understand the complaints about not having a headphone jack. Apple provided a lightning port to headphone jack adapter with the iPhone 7 which I used for the first couple of months until I got my Air Pods (which I dearly LOVE). I know you can't charge your phone while using the lightning port to listen to music but is it that big of a deal?


You and me both. As someone who uses AirPods (awesome things, use them a lot) and good old wired connection for when I want to use my quality cans. You know how often I’ve missed the jack, or thought it was an inconvenience? Zilch, zero, nada.

As I said I’ve got my AirPods for most of the time, the audio quality of those actually impressed me, they were much better than I expected. And my wired cans have the dongle Apple supplied nigh on permanently attached to them. Sometimes I take it off to use my headphone amp, but I just pop it back on when I’m done.

I never complained at having to use a 3.5mm to full sized jack adapter for years, so I’m not going to whinge about Apple requiring an adapter. Besides there’s lots of good cans now that have a lightning and standard jack.
 
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You voluntarily come to a site called Macrumors where leaks are frequent. Spoilers will happen.



Carriers aren’t throwing a tantrum over scrapped branding?
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And Touch ID because holding a phone up to your face all the time isn’t desirable or convenient on all occasions.
People said the same with the headphone jack. U think Apple are gonna impose a new solution that simply stinks? To their crown jewel product?
 
Hard to believe they'd start removing such great features as 3D Touch and Touch ID. I live in a cold climate. How would Face ID work when I'm wearing sunglasses, a beanie and a scarf over half of my face?

And I use 3D Touch constantly. It's the reason I originally upgraded to the 6S. Switching between apps this way, or peaking at the last app is very helpful.


They are not removing 3D Touch, it’s in no way linked to the removal of the home button.

As for Touch ID, I love it, use it a lot and I’ll be sad to see it go.
But at the same time, if Apple have indeed cracked the whole facial scanning issue. And let’s not forget how many companies related to that technology they’ve bought and how much they’ve invested in the tech. Then I’m all for a more secure system.

I don’t really see the issue, remove (beloved) Touch ID, but replace it with something that works faster and is more secure? No brainer in my book.

I have no doubt whatsoever that it will work flawlessly, Apple are kind of obsessive about that kind of thing.
 
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I mean it's not technically the same build. It drops the 5 and the a. It also removes the feedback app and all beta bloatware. Clearly it's not the same build as it has new wallpapers and other tidbits that beta 10 doesn't have.
As in no more betas!
 
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The rainbow wallpapers look similar to my Apple Watch one inspired by DSOTM :eek:


Where’d you get that wallpaper, mad coincidence that my morphine has kicked in and I’m chilling to DSotM just now. Gotta have that :D
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But it does sound like you have a masculinity issue. You said it’s not but also assume more women buy iPhones than men. What’s your basis for that assumption?

I’d be curious to know an actual figure, I doubt it’s much more women than men. Even walking around town I see more men than women with iPhones.
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Are you guys really going to bitch about wallpapers like you can't make any picture your wallpaper????


Nah, people have forgotten that it seems and would rather complain that they are being forced into being more feminine. Pffffff.
I’m in touch with my feminine side, there’s not much of one, but I’d happily use a flower photo if it looked good. Hell I take lots of photos of flowers when I’m hillwalking.
 
I made a guess. It was not written as a declarative statement nor was it meant to be interpreted in such a way. It wasn't a scientific guess. That is why I wondered if there were actual figures somewhere.

And if you read my post in full context, I made it clear, that I don't have a problem with the wallpapers (even if they strike me as being a little more feminine) and would use them if I liked them.

Are you looking to argue for the sake of arguing?

Definitely not arguing with you. I read your post full context and I’m simply telling you how you sounded.
 
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