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Likelihood we will get to pre-order the WHITE iPhone 4 TOMORROW?

TarHeelBorn88 said:
To be honest, I do not think Apple is that worried about people returning it for the white. As Steve Jobs has stated, the raw data has shown that basically a microscopic amount of people are unhappy and have already returned their phones. People who have wanted the white iPhone 4, for the most part, either waited or have since purchased the black iPhone 4 and are happy with their purchases. Don't let a forum influence your perception of customer's preference, as we already know that Steve Jobs does not and it is way less than 1% of the iPhone owners. We both know that Apple loves to launch products on Thursday-Saturdays. With that being said, I believe we might be seeing this phone online and in store sooner than we know it, my prediction being the 23rd or 24th.

And also a long those lines, I think it has already been implied the hardware bears no difference between the black and white units. Hence, all iPhone 4s purchased through the end of September are accompanied with a free bumper or an equivalent case that Apple will offer either tomorrow or Friday (my guess being 4am tonight).
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I don't think the returns Steve cited has anything to do with those looking to return black for white. Those are people who are discontent with the phone as a whole, not because of color.

The limited quantities of the White iPhone make any number of those looking to exchange a significant number.

To several posters above:

Can we NOT have the black/white exchange ethics discussion? We've had it 3 times already. It's ugly and rather depressing. This is the 1st White iPhone thread in a while that hasn't been dragged down by that topic.

Some math:

.5% of 3 million is 15,000 which would be 15% of the estimated 100,000 iPhones. A rather significant number if you ask me.
 
wickedawesome31 said:
I was thinking the same thing. It would have made life a little easier.
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I was madly hitting refresh reading engadget updates for the press conference..

The entire time I was thinking to myself, "No freaking way nobody asks a single question regarding the white iphone"... low-and-behold... not a single question regarding release.

It was as if they were instructed before-hand not to ask them.

Odd
 
millerb7 said:
I was madly hitting refresh reading engadget updates for the press conference..

The entire time I was thinking to myself, "No freaking way nobody asks a single question regarding the white iphone"... low-and-behold... not a single question regarding release.

It was as if they were instructed before-hand not to ask them.

Odd
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i am slowly getting the idea that the only people who really care that much about the white iphone are the few that post in these white iphone threads :p.
 
Hi all, I 've been waiting for the white iphone as most you and let me tell you it has been a long waiting. I think they will start taking pre-orders after the 24th. The 30 day policy will be up for many black iPhone users which a great number people will not be able to exchange the black for white. Just my two cents. Good luck to everyone that has been waiting patiently for this great device.;)
 
Sleazy E said:
i am slowly getting the idea that the only people who really care that much about the white iphone are the few that post in these white iphone threads :p.
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Exactly. Though is seems like a big deal to people like us, in the grand scheme of things it really isn't. I wasn't surprised that the questions wasn't brought up at the press conference because if it was, people would be wondering "why the hell did they just waste a question?". While I don't share that sentiment, I understand the perspective.
 
BadMoon said:
LOL! Easy there hoss. Its a phone. Apple clearly stated that if you are not happy with the device for ANY reason to bring it back.
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Which is all well and good, except that you bought the phone when you already knew the version you actually wanted was coming at a later date.

"BUT I WANT MY IPHONE 4 NAOOOOOOOOO"

Grow up.

You denied somebody else a chance at a very hot item, and are going to do it again.
 
tctony said:
Which is all well and good, except that you bought the phone when you already knew the version you actually wanted was coming at a later date.

"BUT I WANT MY IPHONE 4 NAOOOOOOOOO"

Grow up.

You denied somebody else a chance at a very hot item, and are going to do it again.
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Well said!
 
I did.

I am.

/TheEnd
tctony said:
Which is all well and good, except that you bought the phone when you already knew the version you actually wanted was coming at a later date.

"BUT I WANT MY IPHONE 4 NAOOOOOOOOO"

Grow up.

You denied somebody else a chance at a very hot item, and are going to do it again.
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So it seems that the Apple site will have a few updates to do over the next week or so.

The iPhone white, the free bumpers/cases application thing and international iPhone 4 release.

Do you think that these will be interlinked (in the same update)? Could lead to some hefty site traffic on that day, if that happens.

If not, what order do you think this will happen? I think the free cases update would be the most likely (to our dissapointment), given that SJ said that would definently happen towards the end of this week.
 
Choice has been made! I got my 3GS swapped without even asking. I had some dust under the screen and the guy at the Genius bar gave me a new one.

So I think i'll make bank on ebay to more then cover the cost for a new white iPhone.

Quick question, is 4.01 jailbroke? Just wondering for resell.

Thanks.
 
bobbytallant said:
So it seems that the Apple site will have a few updates to do over the next week or so.

The iPhone white, the free bumpers/cases application thing and international iPhone 4 release.

Do you think that these will be interlinked (in the same update)? Could lead to some hefty site traffic on that day, if that happens.

If not, what order do you think this will happen? I think the free cases update would be the most likely (to our dissapointment), given that SJ said that would definently happen towards the end of this week.
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I think it would be smarter to do the bumper thing earlier on friday this week. And keep staging things about a week apart. To keep a consistent traffic cycle.

July 23=Bumpers

July 31st=White iPhone 4 and International Release

I think what people don't realize that July 30th for international and July 31st can be the same day due to time zone differences. Not necessarily but I think they will kind of merge those two, and make it a "magical" weekend.
 
Since Jobs said that the free bumper option was going to be put online "this week." I think he would have also been just as specific for the release date of white iPhone 4 if he was confident about it.
 
xenuprime said:
Can we please stay off that topic? This has been a good thread, please don't ruin it.
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Agreed. I, for one, have accepted that a good many people appear to be more self centered than I find tolerable, but have decided it's useless attempting to reason with them. ;)

This has been a good thread. Speculating is entertaining. :D
 
bunnicula said:
Agreed. I, for one, have accepted that a good many people appear to be more self centered than I find tolerable, but have decided it's useless attempting to reason with them. ;)

This has been a good thread. Speculating is entertaining. :D
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My thoughts exactly. Its an internet forum, there's nothing you can do it about. It's better you just let it slide than let it get to you. You'll only feed their ego if you respond to them.

If we can't get a pre order, can we at least get a heads up as to when the White iPhone will hit stores? I won't mind getting in line, so long as I know when to line up.
 
xqb4dpx said:
Please! Thats all I want to know.
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Hopefully we'll have some insiders to let us know when shipments arrive. Maybe some pics to go along with the info.

So what time did people get in line for the black iPhone? How early do you think we'll have to get there to be in the first 20?
 
beamer8912 said:
Hopefully we'll have some insiders to let us know when shipments arrive. Maybe some pics to go along with the info.

So what time did people get in line for the black iPhone? How early do you think we'll have to get there to be in the first 20?
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Probably so.

I don't really want to go stand in line though... argh.

Then again, I really don't like ordering things blind... and with the "difficulties in manufacturing" I would rather see the phone first.

It'd have to be pretty jacked up for me not to buy it, so I don't know why I wouldn't just go ahead, suck it up and buy it (or get in... *shudder* line).

:D
 
XJ13sd said:
I agree. I hope anyone returning a black for a white has a bitch of a time actually obtaining one. I think apple should not let black returns purchase a white on that account until all models are readily avaiable. And in reality, no preorders or priority lists will take place IMO, my local apple store told me ( was just asking don't even want white) that when they are released it would be in- store only at first, first come, first serve. I hope all you returning thinking you will get a white one right away have to wait weeks to actually grab one.

Also. If they do a priority list. I think it should only be open ( at first) to those who have not purchased an iPhone 4 yet.
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You sure are a spiteful little piece of $T aren't you?

Seriously.. not everyone who purchased a black one but wants a white one is doing it for any reason other than they needed to sell their original phone to pay for the other..

I have a 3G.. I needed to sell the phone I had in order to be able to pay for the new one.. I really WANT a white one, but i had a buy willing to pay asking price for my 3G.. If i didn't get a black one, why would it be ok for me to purchase a different phone and return it when the one i really want comes out??

You know, all you guys are sooo wrapped up in what other people are doing yet you have no real idea about true morality or ethics.

There is NOTHING unethical with purchasing a phone and returning it within the grace period IF an item of the same or lesser value comes out that you would like mroe.

People do it all the time with all types of electronics. People purchase a computer and then in a few days the company comes out with a newer model and they return the one they had and get the newer one.. its just the way things work in retail.

Get off your damn high horse and and eat it's $HT
 
lindsayanng said:
You sure are a spiteful little piece of $T aren't you?

Seriously.. not everyone who purchased a black one but wants a white one is doing it for any reason other than they needed to sell their original phone to pay for the other..

I have a 3G.. I needed to sell the phone I had in order to be able to pay for the new one.. I really WANT a white one, but i had a buy willing to pay asking price for my 3G.. If i didn't get a black one, why would it be ok for me to purchase a different phone and return it when the one i really want comes out??

You know, all you guys are sooo wrapped up in what other people are doing yet you have no real idea about true morality or ethics.

There is NOTHING unethical with purchasing a phone and returning it within the grace period IF an item of the same or lesser value comes out that you would like mroe.

People do it all the time with all types of electronics. People purchase a computer and then in a few days the company comes out with a newer model and they return the one they had and get the newer one.. its just the way things work in retail.

Get off your damn high horse and and eat it's $HT
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Well, I said I wouldn't get into this black/white thing...

But, I'll bite.

1)You did not HAVE to sell your 3G.

You could have kept it. I know, because I'm currently using a perfectly functional 3GS while I WAIT FOR MY WHITE IPHONE.

Sheeesh.

2)Since they've extended the return period for the iP4, then it would seem the gracious thing to do if one who say, already HAS a black iP4 would not jump into the fray the first day the white shows up, attempting to grab ANOTHER new iP4.

There again, whatever you black for white people do is really up to ya.

But... yeah... people do return stuff all the time. It's just that they don't typically use it for awhile, then return it to buy the same thing in a different color.

Buy a case. Apparently Steve is handing them out for free. Maybe you could score a white one?

;)

I'm saying this all with my tongue implanted firmly in my cheek, okay?

I'm actually all live and let live on this matter. :D
 
If Jobs literaly meant the phones will ship end of month, wouldn't orders only need to be placed 2-3 days before?
 
beamer8912 said:
Hopefully we'll have some insiders to let us know when shipments arrive. Maybe some pics to go along with the info.

So what time did people get in line for the black iPhone? How early do you think we'll have to get there to be in the first 20?
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No doubt.

I think the line for the white iPhone 4 will be ridiculously small. Especially if there is absolutely no announcement/quiet announcement. I'll be at an undisclosed NYC store around 7, waiting for it to open at 9.
 
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