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List: Waiting for Montevina MacBook Pros
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yeah except Motevina and Nehalem are not the same component like Yonah and Merom
Yonah and Merom are CPUs Montevina is the chipset/platform and Nehalem is the CPU
so you cant compare those, nice try though, apparently you haven't seen the benchmarks where a 2.66 nehalem keeps up with a 3.2 penryn
here educate yourself
I was talking performance increases.
That's high-end desktop CPUs. So you can't directly compare those to mobile CPUs.
And just because there's a big performance increase and/or a new microarchitecture, doesn't mean there will be a case redesign.
ah i see, so nehalem Desktop CPUS will be faster than penryn Desktop CPUs
but Nehalem Mobile cpus will not that much faster than penryn cpus
yeah that makes sense
I just have a feeling that the performance jump mobile Nehalem gives won't be as big as that of high-end desktop Nehalem. But it'll be bigger than Montevina though.ah i see, so nehalem Desktop CPUS will be faster than penryn Desktop CPUs
but Nehalem Mobile cpus will not that much faster than penryn cpus
yeah that makes sense
Proof or poof
What I found on Google says that it's just part of the south bridge, and is already found in south bridges. No slower than current.
http://developer.apple.com/document...okPro_0802/Articles/ProductDeveloperNote.html
What I found on Google says that it's just part of the south bridge, and is already found in south bridges. No slower than current.
http://developer.apple.com/document...okPro_0802/Articles/ProductDeveloperNote.html
isnt this supposed to a be a thread about montevina
i go to read
and all i ever read about in this thread is how much better nehalem is gonna be
i go to read
and all i ever read about in this thread is how much better nehalem is gonna be
man i agree with the one guy above. Forget about Nahelum right now. This thread is titled "List: Waiting for Montevina Macbook Pros" so why the crap are we talking about Nahelum. I mean holy cow, ADHD!
I think we should all treat this like gospel ....
Montevina is just a Centrino platform refresh with a Penryn chip, Intel GMA 4500 Graphics and Intel 5XXX Wi-Fi Link.
We know Apple never has any Centrino stickers on their machines. Meaning they don't necessarily use Intel's Wi-Fi chip and integrated graphics on the MBP.
What does this tell us?
Since we already have Penryns shipping in the MBPs, we can expect to see a new Intel Northbridge and possible support for DDR3 in the next refresh. Neither of these things offer any performance benefit over the current MBPs.
Therefore, the Montevina refresh does NOT warrant a design change. Apple and Intel have been chums for a while now.
The current Intel Roadmap is a Tick-Tock roadmap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick_Tock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_microarchitecture
I have reason to believe that the MBP redesign will coincide with the TOCK i.e Nehalem.
Something as groundbreaking as the Nehalem architecture, warrants a new MBP design.
The Nehalem architecture is groundbreaking.
Montevina is just a Centrino platform refresh with a Penryn chip, Intel GMA 4500 Graphics and Intel 5XXX Wi-Fi Link.
We know Apple never has any Centrino stickers on their machines. Meaning they don't necessarily use Intel's Wi-Fi chip and integrated graphics on the MBP.
What does this tell us?
Since we already have Penryns shipping in the MBPs, we can expect to see a new Intel Northbridge and possible support for DDR3 in the next refresh. Neither of these things offer any performance benefit over the current MBPs.
Therefore, the Montevina refresh does NOT warrant a design change. Apple and Intel have been chums for a while now.
The current Intel Roadmap is a Tick-Tock roadmap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick_Tock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_microarchitecture
I have reason to believe that the MBP redesign will coincide with the TOCK i.e Nehalem.
Something as groundbreaking as the Nehalem architecture, warrants a new MBP design.
The Nehalem architecture is groundbreaking.
The reason you don't see any Centrino stickers on Apple machines is because Steve would never allow it.
The reason you don't see any Centrino stickers on Apple machines is because Steve would never allow it.
That and I think mbp and macbooks are not centrinos because isnt that the cpu + wifi combo name?
Managing Risk
Nope - wrong. Think about the risk. Why would Apple go with a release that is a major change on two fronts: CPU and design in one big bang. No way - too much risk.
Better to manage risk by going for a big design change on a stable chipset. Only one thing to manage risk with.
Think back to when Apple switched to Intel. They kept the case the same - the same venerable ancient one we are still bearing with now. Why - to manage the risk.
So the case refresh will be the flip side - keep the CPU of the same basic 45nm architecture but astonish us with the beauty of a new case design and the permanent banishment of that last decade looking keyboard .
Its not so much the keys I don't like its that huge yawning hard edged chasm at the bottom. Just the think to loose anything down it.
Nope - wrong. Think about the risk. Why would Apple go with a release that is a major change on two fronts: CPU and design in one big bang. No way - too much risk.
Better to manage risk by going for a big design change on a stable chipset. Only one thing to manage risk with.
Think back to when Apple switched to Intel. They kept the case the same - the same venerable ancient one we are still bearing with now. Why - to manage the risk.
So the case refresh will be the flip side - keep the CPU of the same basic 45nm architecture but astonish us with the beauty of a new case design and the permanent banishment of that last decade looking keyboard .
Its not so much the keys I don't like its that huge yawning hard edged chasm at the bottom. Just the think to loose anything down it.
Dude they changed the MacBook and iMac drastically with the Intel transition..
