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List: Waiting for Montevina MacBook Pros
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Well, you are correct, I can manage to wait one more month, but since there's no evidence it will come out for sure in October I'm reluctant to wait. But you're completely right about the one year old hardware (not to mention price).
Who cares? Just as long as it is before Thanksgiving, that way on Black Friday you can get a discount like they did last year. If they do it again that is.
This is getting ridiculous. For a while we all thought it would be August 1st or August 8th........ then September 16th... now we think it's October.
I hope they're waiting for something like a CPU boost or a Radeon 4650 to become available... or something.
Some good reason :s
I hope they're waiting for something like a CPU boost or a Radeon 4650 to become available... or something.
Some good reason :s
While well-known, how's that good news? I'd like something as powerful as Nehalem in my new MBP
do you really believe nehalem is that much better? intel always told us 40% increase in speed or something similar. but when you look at the benchmarks it ended up being 10% speed increase. nehalem won't be different. the only way that there will be a major speed increase is by using quadcore chips.
how much better the other features of nehalem are (battery life) remains to be seen. i woudn't expect too much.
When AMD moved to IMC's their benchmarks crushed their old chips. It's pretty apparent that Intel has a product that beats AMD at it's own game. In addition, the numbers that Intel is claiming are backed up by independent benchmarks on buggy hardware.
This isn't accurate. It won't be 40% faster across the board, and I'm sure they claim "up to 40." However, it will be 40% faster in a lot of things that count. The architectural changes are exciting, especially the IMC and the return of HyperThreading, both of which attack efficiency rather than an increase merely in brute force (clocks, additional cache, registers or ALU/FPU/vector units etc). The IMC will help in ways minor (or even significant) increases in memory clockspeed cannot.
Yes, I think Nehalem will be significantly faster in many ways. And no, the Montevina chipset won't change much at all (faster FSB isn't necessary, current CPUs aren't saturating it).
Hm. Given the likely change to a 32nm fabrication process, and ability to shut off multiple cores, I'd say you're wrong
anyone planning on buying the current model may as well buy it refurbed or used on ebay. ebay has some good deals going and most have included applecare and accessories for less than buying just the mbp new.
there's no point in paying that much for such a dated system
there's no point in paying that much for such a dated system
I'm guessing we'll have baseline 2.53Ghz with 2.8Ghz top end models (including 17"). On that note, I'm also hoping for the new 16:9 higher resolution screens.
I'm all for an ATI card too.
Nah, that's your guess. Not really an opinion.
And yeah..... I hope we get a 2.53 GHz baseline at least..
Same.
I'm also reluctant to wait. I've been waiting for so long!
I prefer Nvidia, not ATI.
The baseline 2.53 Ghz would be good. =)
I have to agree, it's a new product and they want to earn as much profit as possible and won't be throwing out the possibly new iPods.
Thats a given, as far as I know its only an annual back-to-school thing to get rid of the old stock.
Lol? What could make you prefer nVidia to ATI? Is it the time bomb aspect of the current chips, or their (lifelong) inferior image quality?
I think you missed my point. I was replying to the person who said that if you want a current model you should go to eBay or the refurbs for a better deal.
You guys obviously haven't been in the high-end GPU know-how for the past few years. Between the 9800 (ati) and the new 4870X2's, ATI was beaten constantly by nvidia. I'm talking flagship cards. The 8800GTX is still formidable, too.
Not really concerned about having the latest, greatest. More concerned with reliable, stable hardware and drivers. My gaming PCs (at home and with my kids and grandkids) all moved to ATI over the past year. Nvidia cards required too much power, and the DX10 drivers for our current favorite, Company of Heroes, were awful. Mostly using 4870, 3870, 2600 and 3470. Can't get the best frame rates and highest resolutions with some of those, but they all work, even with only modest CPUs and power supplies.
Additionally, on the Mac side, we are never going to get the greatest GPU so let's get one that works very well on OS X and has decent Windows performance with no hint of imminent failure. Right now that means ATI.
Cheers,
Yeah I was just saying nvidia was on the bleeding edge (on the high end, meant for gaming enthusiasts, not casual WoW players or anything) for the past few years, and ATI's drivers were worse (especially crossfire) in my experience... I just hear too many people saying ATI is better now just because of the MBP 8600M fiasco now, I guess.
Not to say that it doesnt make me angry also, Ive been waiting for a new MBP to come out for me to buy it since may, for this very reason.
PS: Company of Heroes is amazing! It pretty much reinvented the RTS genre by expanding what was already awesome from the Warhammer 40,000 games.
Not to say that it doesnt make me angry also, Ive been waiting for a new MBP to come out for me to buy it since may, for this very reason.
PS: Company of Heroes is amazing! It pretty much reinvented the RTS genre by expanding what was already awesome from the Warhammer 40,000 games.
Whatever company Apple chooses for video cards in the new machines I hope they offer a high end option.
Potential new video cards?
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I was wondering what actual potential changes might take place in the macbook pro update?
Does anyone know what potential video cards might be put in? How much of an improvement in performance would there be? (I will be using a lot of Aperture and some after effects, final cut etc). (curious to look at the comparisons to the 8600 here) There are some cards on that list that seriously outperform the 8600.
Is there a big difference going up to Montevina? (I've read that it's not much of a big deal, just FSB and HD decoding).
I will need a notebook by Oct. 3, so even if there is a new revision, I wouldn't mind buying the old refurb at an even lower price. Just wondering what kind of updates are actually possible?
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I was wondering what actual potential changes might take place in the macbook pro update?
Does anyone know what potential video cards might be put in? How much of an improvement in performance would there be? (I will be using a lot of Aperture and some after effects, final cut etc). (curious to look at the comparisons to the 8600 here) There are some cards on that list that seriously outperform the 8600.
Is there a big difference going up to Montevina? (I've read that it's not much of a big deal, just FSB and HD decoding).
I will need a notebook by Oct. 3, so even if there is a new revision, I wouldn't mind buying the old refurb at an even lower price. Just wondering what kind of updates are actually possible?