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Mac Notebook and iPod Updates in September?

Okay, I have an extension question for Rev A problems.

When a Rev A product has glitches or something wrong with it, do we have to wait another 6 months for them to get fixed, like the next speed bump?

Or will they fix them within a few weeks/months, during the same revision?

Thanks.
 
iMacmatician said:
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  • Similar screen sizes (13", 15", 17")
  • 2.27/2.4 GHz processors for the MacBook, 2.53/2.8 GHz processors for the MacBook Pro
  • 2 GB RAM, upgradable to 8 GB
  • Similar HD sizes (120/160/250/200/250 GB), maybe one capacity bump up (160/200/250/250/300 GB)
  • MacBook Pros to have 96x0M or ATI equivalent, MacBooks to have integrated graphics
  • NO Blu-ray, DVD burners only (bye-bye Combo Drive)
  • Same display resolutions, including the 1920·1200 BTO 17" option
  • Price most likely won't decrease. Following previous trends, price may actually increase.
  • Multi-touch glass trackpad
  • Tablet Mac? I'm not so sure now that the glass trackpad rumors have come
This is a fairly moderate set of specs.
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i hope for FW800 in the MB's, FW3200 in the MBP's.

is USB 3 already available?

i hope for eSATA in MB's (unlikely) and a expresscard slot in the MB's (unlikely).

is WIMAX available and would apple use it?

what i really hope is

at least 1 pound less for all notebooks (compare to Sony Vaio),
smaller foot print by having a smaller screen becel,
much better battery life,
easily replacable HD,
better wifi reception in MBP's,
much less heat output (my 2.0GHz Lenovo is much cooler)
LED screens
better speakers in the MB
FW800 in MB (unlikely)
fingerprint reader (ok, ok a gimmick)
docking station (impossible i know)
 
Nobody gives a Rats Ass if you can't afford A MacBook Pro go ahead and enjoy your ****** Dell well anyways cant wait until Apple releases the new MacBook hopefully in early September.
 
Clayne said:
Okay, I have an extension question for Rev A problems.

When a Rev A product has glitches or something wrong with it, do we have to wait another 6 months for them to get fixed, like the next speed bump?

Or will they fix them within a few weeks/months, during the same revision?

Thanks.
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Defects (like the iPhone 3G case cracks) will be fixed immediately without a change in model no.
 
I guess this means we will see new MacBook notebooks 3 weeks from now. Circle August 19th and 26th on your calenders! :)

Apple's pretty good with there Rev.A products, if there's any major flaws they will get fixed, but minor stuff I don't think happens quite often.
 
Apple Ink said:
Defects (lie the iPhone 3G case cracks) will be fixed immediately without a change in model no.
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Don't they just send you a new model or replace that specific defected part?

In whichever case, you're still pretty much with the same product that has the same problems and there's a chance it will happen again. Although they will still keep fixing it, even a couple weeks without your laptop or iPhone, especially if it happens over and over again, can be very frustraiting I imagine.

Am I wrong?

Arley23 said:
I'm afraid USB 3 wont get released until 2010 :(
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What is this USB 3? I've never heard of this.

Instead of continuously having the same arguement over blu-ray, will someone please enlighten me and also tell me if this is expected in the new notebooks?

Ah, the article I'm reading says 2009. Got it. ;)
 
Clayne said:
Okay, I have an extension question for Rev A problems.

When a Rev A product has glitches or something wrong with it, do we have to wait another 6 months for them to get fixed, like the next speed bump?

Or will they fix them within a few weeks/months, during the same revision?

Thanks.
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obvious defects get fixed within a month or two after release.

however excessive heat or weak speakers or uneven screen brightness are often harder to fix. that may take another revision because it means some reengineering.

i would wait 4 weeks and if no major problems come up then i will buy. if tons of people say the notebook gets unbearably hot or 20% of the screens are very bad or the wifi reception is abysmal then i would wait for a few month till it gets fixed.
 
Yixian said:
Um.. no :/

Nvidia just announced 5 new mobile GPUs, compatible with the new chipset Apple is supposed to be using and with CUDA tech and integrated graphics built in for HybridPower, which would save VAST amounts of battery power.

Even before they had been announced, there's no reason Apple would choose the pathetic 9600M GT over the significantly more powerful 9650M GS.
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I really hope you are right. The 9600m doesn't seem like much of an upgrade from the 8600M. I think with a new redesign Apple really needs to make a leap from the older MBP.
 
My guess:

They'll come out BEFORE the B2S promo ends. I don't know when, but before. I'd like it to be late August - early September, but whatever. (actually, I'd REALLY like it to be this Tuesday :rolleyes:)

There'll be a keynote/event for all the new things (the things we know and the things we don't know), as long as Apple hasn't discontinued keynotes. With all the info leaking (true or not) I don't think Apple will go for the surprise element. We know something is happening, so I think they'll make it a big announcement.
 
Breegy said:
Don't they just send you a new model or replace that specific defected part?

In whichever case, you're still pretty much with the same product that has the same problems and there's a chance it will happen again. Although they will still keep fixing it, even a couple weeks without your laptop or iPhone, especially if it happens over and over again, can be very frustraiting I imagine.
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Clayne is talking about damage control at the production level! As for the iPhone 3G, its only a matter for Apple to use better quality plastic and its fixed!
 
FuuFuu said:
alright newbie. by productive i mean what this thread is based upon, the new production of ipods and macbooks. i simply said that talking about BR in macbooks is not helping since its not going to happen anytime soon, hence its not worth to talk about at this moment.
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Newbie to this forum...yes. This is exactly what I was referring to when I replied to you. I don't know where you got this "fact" from, even though you and I both know it surely isn't. It however IS an opinion but you stated it as fact for whatever reason. Having opinions is fine, and is what this forum is supposed to be about but saying something isn't going to happen anytime soon and isn't worth talking about seems ridiculous since it's opinion. I'm simply saying that it can happen, and that nobody knows 100% for sure about anything that will be in the next revisions until they are released. That's what speculation threads are about right? Hey man I dunno, remember I'm the macrumors newbie so you're supposed to tell me how this all works.
 
Breegy said:
I'm a little worried to buy a MB if there is case redesign. Or even a new iPod. iPhones are starting to crack worse than MacBooks already do, and in an even shorter period of time.

Anyone else worried about getting crapped out with a Rev. A if there is a redesign? Or all you just so excited to get the latest and greatest even if it's faulty?

I'll probably buy as soon as they're released if I like the design, but I'm worried I'll have a bunch of problems. I'll definitely invest in AppleCare regardless.
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No, you're not the only one. As someone who needs to update her iBook this year, I'm really excited to see the latest and greatest MB/MBP. More whistles and bells, woohoo! At the same time, I'm incredibly wary and a little frustrated. A new design means more wait time, for me anyhow.

andiwm2003 said:
obvious defects get fixed within a month or two after release.

i would wait 4 weeks and if no major problems come up then i will buy. if tons of people say the notebook gets unbearably hot or 20% of the screens are very bad or the wifi reception is abysmal then i would wait for a few month till it gets fixed.
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Ditto that. I've bumped back my purchase plan until December'ish. I'm just going to wait it out and research the new MB/MBP's within an inch of my life before I finally shell out $$$.
 
Apple Ink said:
For those who believe that the optical media is dying... well let me remind you that USA and Europe arent the only countries/continents in the World! We live in the US (and other developed nations) but conveniently forget about other countries where such bandwidth provision is nowhere to be seen!
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kinda like how S. Korea gets 100mbps LAN
 
HandleVandal said:
At the same time, I'm incredibly wary and a little frustrated. A new design means more wait time, for me anyhow.
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Do you mean you'll be waiting for another revision after the redesign? (like a Rev. B) Or are you just saying waiting the 1-2 months is already annoying?

I would consider waiting for them to fix the problems a Rev. A would have, if this is what you mean, but all of that money in my bank account and a shiny new macbook waiting at a store, would just be too tempting to let pass.
 
Breegy said:
Do you mean you'll be waiting for another revision after the redesign? (like a Rev. B) Or are you just saying waiting the 1-2 months is already annoying?

I would consider waiting for them to fix the problems a Rev. A would have, if this is what you mean, but all of that money in my bank account and a shiny new macbook waiting at a store, would just be too tempting to let pass.
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unless there is a problem with the design itself (too much heat, a critical feature missing) i would wait 4-8 weeks. that is usually how long it takes to improve production quality and implement minor fixes like thermal grease or better glue or such. then it's quite safe to buy.

my guess is that usually less than 5% have problems to begin with. and you can't do anything abouty problem that show up late like cracked cases, faulty capacitors, melting power supplys and exploding batteries.
 
superkid667 said:
Dell has excellent build quality!

Listen, i have nothing against Apple, they make excellent computers, but those blind and whipped which cherish Mr.Jobs for everything his company makes are stupid. The Macbook Pros are over-priced, and they get away with it because of idiot worshipers of Apple like you!
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Dell is known for scrounging for cheap components to create cheap computers. Apple is known for testing their components extensively with their own operating system, and optimizing the operating system specifically for those components. Therein lies the reasoning behind the "over-priced" Apple products. "Idiot worshipers", which you haven't even used the correct spelling for, have been treated to the above. As well, if Windows were as sound an OS as OS X, they would earn the right to charge more to the OEMs, which would be transferred to the consumer.
 
Breegy said:
Do you mean you'll be waiting for another revision after the redesign? (like a Rev. B) Or are you just saying waiting the 1-2 months is already annoying?

I would consider waiting for them to fix the problems a Rev. A would have, if this is what you mean, but all of that money in my bank account and a shiny new macbook waiting at a store, would just be too tempting to let pass.
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Yeah, that is worded a little funky. :D Yes, I'll be waiting for another revision after the redesign and that's the frustrating part for me. I'm thrilled with the idea a new redesign (in theory) but it's kind of like "hurry up and wait!!!"

I just don't have the financial means to buy a Rev. A (no matter how badly I want one) put up with its quirks, then turn around and buy a Rev. B a few months later, even with selling the Rev. A on Ebay/Craigslist. What I *can* afford is to wait a few months, cool my jets, and let the kinks work themselves out.

The irony of this is that the much hyped aluminum MB case, if it's true, might turn out to suck eggs and I'll wind up buying the now-current model plastic MB :rolleyes: (which wouldn't be so bad, in all honesty. I get a bug-free MB and a discount for buying an slightly out of date model)

And believe you me, I know the allure of a shiny new MB staring at you from the Apple store window. I feel your pain! It's a good thing the Apple store in Greensboro hasn't opened up yet, or else my resolve might be really tested. It helps my case that the closest store is in Durham, 45 minutes away, and gas is still hovering around the $4 mark. ;)
 
Arley23 said:
Wait how do you know the new MacBooks are coming in 3 weeks?
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It's just a guess. Apple told its retailers to stock up 3 weeks worth of notebooks. So I guess that means production for current Mac notebooks will cease by 3 weeks making room for the production of new notebooks? :)
 
HandleVandal said:
Yeah, that is worded a little funky. :D Yes, I'll be waiting for another revision after the redesign and that's the frustrating part for me. I'm thrilled with the idea a new redesign (in theory) but it's kind of like "hurry up and wait!!!"

I just don't have the financial means to buy a Rev. A (no matter how badly I want one) put up with its quirks, then turn around and buy a Rev. B a few months later, even with selling the Rev. A on Ebay/Craigslist. What I *can* afford is to wait a few months, cool my jets, and let the kinks work themselves out.

The irony of this is that the much hyped aluminum MB case, if it's true, might turn out to suck eggs and I'll wind up buying the now-current model plastic MB :rolleyes: (which wouldn't be so bad, in all honesty. I get a bug-free MB and a discount for buying an slightly out of date model)

And believe you me, I know the allure of a shiny new MB staring at you from the Apple store window. I feel your pain! It's a good thing the Apple store in Greensboro hasn't opened up yet, or else my resolve might be really tested. It helps my case that the closest store is in Durham, 45 minutes away, and gas is still hovering around the $4 mark. ;)
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The nearest store for me is Orlando (a few hours away) unless you count Best Buy, which I don't think I will buy from. But it's still tempting to even order it offline and wait for it to ship in :rolleyes:

I was worried about aluminum for awhile as well. But I've heard they fixed the wifi reception problem, though I'm not sure how. Anyways, the current MacBooks are very nice, but that's why I'm still in the middle of the new one that should come out soon and the old. If there is a revision, it may or may not be better to buy the older one. Also, I was stuck between black and white and was kind of hoping aluminum would help solve my problem there. There's so many ifs and buts, that I just have to put it in the back of my mind most of the time.

As for money, about a week before they're estimated to be released is when I should have enough saved up, so waiting a until next Spring for a revision is like waiting an eternity! :p

andiwm2003 said:
unless there is a problem with the design itself (too much heat, a critical feature missing) i would wait 4-8 weeks. that is usually how long it takes to improve production quality and implement minor fixes like thermal grease or better glue or such. then it's quite safe to buy.

my guess is that usually less than 5% have problems to begin with. and you can't do anything abouty problem that show up late like cracked cases, faulty capacitors, melting power supplys and exploding batteries.
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That is a good idea. Again, waiting is really hard. If one were to take this advice, they wouldn't get their notebook until November if the release date is going to be as estimated (mid-late September).

But if those problems were to show up like you described at the end (exploding batteries and cracked cases and such), those would be replaced, correct? Like the current cracking problems with the magnet by where you open and close the case.
 
I'm waiting till the 9th of september for an update. If theres no update by then, I'll buy. I'd rather have the current MBP with the current Ipod Touch then have some small speedbump updated MBP with no touch. I really do not need the update, the current mbp is more then enough for me. The only thing thats making me wait is the rumored price drop.
 
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