10.3.3 Did not make my system any faster. I checked system profiler before the update and my machine was a 450mhz g4. I checked system profiler after the update and it still listed my machine as a 450mhz g4. This is bull****!
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Mac OS X 10.3.3 Released
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TorbX said:
If your CPU doesn't melt first before those updates come along.
To each his own, but I'm glad Apple made this change, I much prefer the much cooler running PowerBook as it is now. It would get VERY hot prior to 10.3.2 and now it is right where it should be temp wise. The fan does not run constantly and actually it runs no more often than it does on the HP laptop I use at work so it doesn't bother me at all. Not to mention that it has to help extend the life of the notebook now that it literally isn't hot enough to fry an egg on. But like I said, to each his own, but I must say I much prefer things the way Apple has them now...
numediaman said:
I downloaded it and attempted to install it on my 1.8 SP G5... the installation said I couldn't install it on my system... go figure.
thumbs down
apple are sad guys. this update didnt fix any of my SMB issues.
for some reason i have trouble file sharing between my mac and pcs. sometimes i cant drag and drop because of "Insufficent privillages". uh, but the privillages are "all for anyone". stupid... works if i restart. or zip the file/s on my pc.
i'm really annoyed and am thinking about going back to friggin' jaguar!
jaguars networking was teh cool
panther is teh sux0r
apple are sad guys. this update didnt fix any of my SMB issues.
for some reason i have trouble file sharing between my mac and pcs. sometimes i cant drag and drop because of "Insufficent privillages". uh, but the privillages are "all for anyone". stupid... works if i restart. or zip the file/s on my pc.
i'm really annoyed and am thinking about going back to friggin' jaguar!
jaguars networking was teh cool
panther is teh sux0r
Although I voted positive on this story, I have to say that, after a day's use, not much seems different. I couldn't give a stuff about network shares now appearing on the desktop and sidebar - it's just extra clutter. Unfortunately, the actual network sharing still appears to be the same - the Finder freezes (beachball of death) for about 30 seconds before either coming up with "original location cannot be found" gag or just stalling and requiring a relaunch. If I do connect I have to go through an additional dialogue before actually connecting.
The fan issue thing must only be to do with the rev A 12" PBs becuase I've seen no difference on my 1GHz machine prior to 10.3.2 or after or 10.3.3.
Other than that, everything seems pretty much the same. It may feel snappier, but it's hard to tell. It was pretty snappy before (except window resizing). Oddly, Word seems much faster, which is nice.
The fan issue thing must only be to do with the rev A 12" PBs becuase I've seen no difference on my 1GHz machine prior to 10.3.2 or after or 10.3.3.
Other than that, everything seems pretty much the same. It may feel snappier, but it's hard to tell. It was pretty snappy before (except window resizing). Oddly, Word seems much faster, which is nice.
Baron58 said:
So far Baron's solution is the only way I can get my SMB working now that I have 10.3.3 -- but I'll take it. My problem was not with domain name/IP, it works either way; it's more that in the Network browser it keeps giving me "original item could not be found." Even though OX X created this alias and thus it should KNOW where the original item is.
Anyway. I'm not sure why the above solved my problem -- the domain I enter is the same as the workgroup I have SMB configured for in Directory Access, but whatever. My other problem is that I thought I could be clever and create aliased from my two mounted volumes, put them in a sidebar folder, and have really quick access to my Win2k shares -- worked for a while until I left the PB asleep for a few hours, then I get the "original item could not be found" meaning I have to do the "Connect to Server..." all over again. Not a huge deal, I just added the two volumes to my favorite servers, it's just an extra step. It's unbelievable I'm so willing to settle for that though ... I'm afraid I'm starting to think like a Windows user.
Anyway, as far as I can see the reaction is pretty mixed at best as far as what Apple did to SMB in 10.3.3. Can't wait for 10.3.4 (although for all we know that won't be a networking release -- might have to wait for 10.3.5 or, heaven forbid, 10.4 before SMB works as pleasurably well as Apple users have come to expect a Mac to behave).
HHHAHAAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA. Be glad it didn't make it a 350 MHZ Yosemite.
andyduncan said:
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA. Be glad it didn't make it a 350 MHZ Yosemite.
HALO after 10.3.3
Graphics in the OS are alot smotther. Like they were in 10.3.2, lots less choppiness. That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update. Everything else seems a hair quicker though, and quartz extreme seems to work better again. My 0.02
Mike
OVERALL A GOOD UPGRADE, MY POWERBOOK SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPENSIVE PS2 ANYWAY
Graphics in the OS are alot smotther. Like they were in 10.3.2, lots less choppiness. That said though, the ONLY game I have loaded on my Powerbook 867 15" with 1 gig of RAM is Halo. Now whenever you hold the button to move and try to aim it sputters and seems to be very choppy, slow at time, and even unstable almost. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! Hopefully it's an issue with the game and not the update. Everything else seems a hair quicker though, and quartz extreme seems to work better again. My 0.02
Mike
OVERALL A GOOD UPGRADE, MY POWERBOOK SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPENSIVE PS2 ANYWAY
ZildjianKX said:Okay, waiting 3 months for 10.3.3 to fix some of my samba problems... still not perfect...
Waiting 5 months and counting for Apple to fix the glitchy 2.1 iPod software...
Are they always this nice to switchers?
Be glad you have OTG playlists at least...oh and if you still need SMB then you're not much of a switcher
J/KMultimedia said:
hhaha, it's nice to know you're helping the guy out, but damn could you have sounded less like ass?
Safari 1.2.1...Autofills
Could you explain your last statement how you got your autofill to work?
MacRand;
I hate to disagree with you, but Apple addressed the info about autofill with the latest release of Safari. Banks do not like autofill with their web sites. Thus there is a code in their web site link that tells autofill not to work. (I'll have to find the Apple release about this)
As far as working, it does for NON Bank account sites - so I must have autofill active for it to do so.
When you say it works with your bank, can you assess your banks accounts? Because I can if I type in the passwords - just autofill will not do this. (but it does in Safari 1.1 - not in 1.2.1)
MacRAND said:
Could you explain your last statement how you got your autofill to work?
MacRand;
I hate to disagree with you, but Apple addressed the info about autofill with the latest release of Safari. Banks do not like autofill with their web sites. Thus there is a code in their web site link that tells autofill not to work. (I'll have to find the Apple release about this)
As far as working, it does for NON Bank account sites - so I must have autofill active for it to do so.
When you say it works with your bank, can you assess your banks accounts? Because I can if I type in the passwords - just autofill will not do this. (but it does in Safari 1.1 - not in 1.2.1)
Matrix9180 said:
1. I've already said this...
2. Don't forget this greatly speeds up scrolling in other apps!
I'm going to send them a report to see if it's something they can fix and haven't noticed....my update has been going well and finally they damn function key works as expected on my PowerBook....it used to be that even when doing FN+F1 my birghtness would change...same with the rest of the F keys (they'd do their respective tasks) except for like F6, F7 and of course F11&12.....
MacRAND said:I've noticed on my iBook 700MHz (max RAM) that both the STARTUP and SHUTDOWN are faster. I agree that it appears to be more stable, and the redraws, scrolls, and such are just plain snappy, fast. I like it.
Installed it today on my iBook G3/900 with 640 MB RAM. Start up is much, much faster as is shut down.
One of the reps who works for me is in the market for a new computer. Asked me why I like Macs. Was my chance to convert another.
Booted it up and he was impressed by the speed. Plugged in an Ethernet cable and showed him how I just saw all the computers on our network without doing a thing. Proceeded to show him all the apps Apple gives you.
Fell in love with the Dock and its effects. Picked up on the concept of putting folders in it for easy access. Talked about creating users and how his wife and kids could have different access and set it up so they don't f**k things up.
Safari (was very impressed with tabs, pop up blocker and keychain access to a number of sites requiring passwords), iCal, iPhoto (had him beam me a photo via our Sony Clie s, mounted the memory stick on my Mac and imported in iPhoto, edited and cropped it and emailed it to his house), iTunes and iMovie. Funny thing was, as all these apps were open, he asked if I ever got an hourglass (beachball to us) and I didn't get one once. 10.3.3 has really improved my system performance. Showed him Office and how wasy it is to read PC Word and Excel files.
Said he wanted to spend around $600. Told him to go for $800 or so and he could have all this. Jumped over to the Apple Store and showed him a refurb eMac for $699. (now gone but I'm sure more will appear). Is seriously considering it.
Got home and had an email from him with a list of questions. I think I got him. If not, I'll just fire his ass.
No 10.3.3 problems, "muting" problem fixed
I've been using 10.3.3 for the whole day on several Macs - a dual 2GHz/1.5GB/320GB G5, an 800 MHz/512MB/80GB 17" iMac, and a 400 Mhz/320MB/6GB Lombard G3 PowerBook. Primarily, I've been using the G5 (need to enjoy it before, in a week or three, it becomes one of the "slow" G5's), but I've played around on the other two as well. I shut all three off completely to check out cold booting, and no problems.
I've seen no problems, either during or after installing. My firewall was still up, my autofill worked as before, etc. None of the other problems reported by others was visible to me, although I've done no Samba-related testing. I'd like to say that things feel faster, but I have no hard numbers to back that up with. Certainly, nothing seems slower. Halo seems OK, but I only played with it for a few minutes, and that might not have been enough time.
My "professional" programs (OmniGraffle Pro, Office, etc.) all seem to work fine.
One thing which was fixed and not previously noted (perhaps I was the only one with the problem?) is that muting once again works for me when I'm using the optical digital out on the G5 - 10.3.2 (or was it 10.3.1?) broke it - the muting (via keyboard or GUI) had no effect on the digital out. Now, though, it has resumed working correctly.
Overall, I'm very happy with the update, at least for now (I seem to have been lucky so far, so I expect to wake up to find that my hard drives have all melted or something).
I've been using 10.3.3 for the whole day on several Macs - a dual 2GHz/1.5GB/320GB G5, an 800 MHz/512MB/80GB 17" iMac, and a 400 Mhz/320MB/6GB Lombard G3 PowerBook. Primarily, I've been using the G5 (need to enjoy it before, in a week or three, it becomes one of the "slow" G5's), but I've played around on the other two as well. I shut all three off completely to check out cold booting, and no problems.
I've seen no problems, either during or after installing. My firewall was still up, my autofill worked as before, etc. None of the other problems reported by others was visible to me, although I've done no Samba-related testing. I'd like to say that things feel faster, but I have no hard numbers to back that up with. Certainly, nothing seems slower. Halo seems OK, but I only played with it for a few minutes, and that might not have been enough time.
My "professional" programs (OmniGraffle Pro, Office, etc.) all seem to work fine.
One thing which was fixed and not previously noted (perhaps I was the only one with the problem?) is that muting once again works for me when I'm using the optical digital out on the G5 - 10.3.2 (or was it 10.3.1?) broke it - the muting (via keyboard or GUI) had no effect on the digital out. Now, though, it has resumed working correctly.
Overall, I'm very happy with the update, at least for now (I seem to have been lucky so far, so I expect to wake up to find that my hard drives have all melted or something).
Not BANK specific
Sorry, you were pretty clear about the "bank" issue.
I was simply observing that some sites (not including nor excluding banks) which will not permit Safari to AUTO-FILL, will work with MS IE; sometimes, neither are permitted.
Greg, do not interpret my post as relating to use of Auto-Fill with a BANK site, I did not intend to include banks.greg6028 said:
Sorry, you were pretty clear about the "bank" issue.
I was simply observing that some sites (not including nor excluding banks) which will not permit Safari to AUTO-FILL, will work with MS IE; sometimes, neither are permitted.
ct77 said:I've only seen one somewhat-related post on this topic... so, has anyone had success with connecting to networked drives hosted on a Windows 2003 Server that has packet signing / encryption enabled? This is the default setup for a W2K shared drive, so unless one has a benevolent network admin that disables the encryption, it is an important issue for Mac-using clients like myself.
Samba 3.0, which Panther uses, supports these types of connections.
However, connecting to W2K shares with packet signing has not worked in 10.3.0, 10.3.1, and 10.3.2... anyone know if 10.3.3 solves this particular issue?
Here's hoping!
My hope has been dashed. This does not seem to work.
I connect with:
smb://DOMAIN;username@server.mycompany.com/sharename
I am then prompted for login credentials, and then I get a dialog saying my login credentials are not correct.
Crap.
Mixed Results
Overall, I think that this update(like Panther in general is a mixed bag). I do see an overall increase in system responsiveness, and browsing networks is faster. However, I am also having the problem of a server(2000, on a home LAN) that had worked before now when I browse, the alias not being able to find the server. Because of that I hated to vote negative but back pedaling on networking is unacceptable(espescially considering how much of a backwards step Panther compared to Jag.)
Overall, I think that this update(like Panther in general is a mixed bag). I do see an overall increase in system responsiveness, and browsing networks is faster. However, I am also having the problem of a server(2000, on a home LAN) that had worked before now when I browse, the alias not being able to find the server. Because of that I hated to vote negative but back pedaling on networking is unacceptable(espescially considering how much of a backwards step Panther compared to Jag.)