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why the h:apple:ll are they now fixing this issue???

-- Yeah yeah I know to make more money

my point is, there is no excuse to deny customers from features that are potentially available in products they have already purchased with their hard earned cash...

not fair. :mad:

Time Machine is backup software. Backup software cannot be hacked together, it must be one hundred percent reliable. If Apple thinks that Time Machine would work perfectly fine with 95 percent of all available hard drives, then it would be corporate suicide to make this available, because if the five percent start losing their data, then Apple is in deep ****.

If you download some shareware game, and it works fine on 95% of all Macs and crashes on 5%, then the 95% are happy, and the 5% are not much worse off. If backup software goes wrong 5% of the time, it is an absolute disaster.
 
Adding this Airport disk backup, is additional feature for Leopard. I guess Apple would charge $10 to enable it.
 
I can not speak for others.
I do not have one of those Airport Units, but if I did I would not trust my data to a hack.

If all a user had to do was give that one command to make it work perfectly, I would think Apple would have published the fix and or made it available. There has to be more to this than just applying the hack.

Also there was a post that the hack crapped out after a 2 gig backup, but I am not sure how true that is.

I rather be safe and not have a false sense of security.

Are you using the hack?
Have you tried to do a full restore after wiping your disk?



No, I ordered TC. I would never use a hack of this caliber, the most I've ever done is change my aqua scroll bars to the ones like the iLife suite. I was only suggesting that people use the hack to reduce all the annoyed people on this forum. I was unaware that it caused issues and was unreliable.
 
The real question(s) is;

Are they adressing iPhone syncing compatible with Notes ?
Are they adressing fixes for videoconferences in iChat ?
Are they adressing the total failure of Back to my mac ? (I´m paying for this dammit!)

- Mad FatMax

They never promised Notes syncing, it would be nice to have though but you can't really get angry about that. I am sure in time we will get Notes and Todos to sync.

In terms of Back to My Mac - its not a total failure - is it a failure at all? - I use it all the time and love it.

Did you set your router to support it? There is a support note about how to do it: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306672

I turned on that stuff and its been working great since.
 
calm down

Please remember that none of this stuff has shipped yet, not time capsule or 10.5.2. We don't know that even Time Capsule works at this point.

I really hope Apple allows AirDisk or Airport Extreme but there is no basis to freak out yet. I they say its working in some cases, or starting to, that is a good sign - it also suggests that this was not intentionally turned off at will.

My bet is that it is on a list of nice to haves that would not delay 10.5.0 but are some trouble to fix. But given Time Capsule, whatever issues exist may need to be fixed for both.
 
Typical Apple to want you to buy a new product, Time Capsule, in order for this to work.
 
I would never use a hack of this caliber, the most I've ever done is change my aqua scroll bars to the ones like the iLife suite. I was only suggesting that people use the hack to reduce all the annoyed people on this forum. I was unaware that it caused issues and was unreliable.

We have two laptops. One I'll continue to backup via direct USB connection and Time Machine. The other connects wirelessly through my AEBS to the same USB disk for its wireless Time Machine backups. That works very well, and if Apple won't support the AEBS-served USB drive for TM backups then I won't reward them by buying a Time Capsule. (Especially since I feel burned by trusting Apple on their word about TM backups to the AEBS+USB.)
 
We have two laptops. One I'll continue to backup via direct USB connection and Time Machine. The other connects wirelessly through my AEBS to the same USB disk for its wireless Time Machine backups. That works very well, and if Apple won't support the AEBS-served USB drive for TM backups then I won't reward them by buying a Time Capsule. (Especially since I feel burned by trusting Apple on their word about TM backups to the AEBS+USB.)

So questions here, everyone says they are burned by apple not allowing TM back-up to airdisk, but was it actually listed as a feature or just something that everyone saw prior to release in some release notes that were not technically public?
 
So questions here, everyone says they are burned by apple not allowing TM back-up to airdisk, but was it actually listed as a feature or just something that everyone saw prior to release in some release notes that were not technically public?

It was in the beta of Leopard, plus people reported that Leopard asked them if they wanted to restore from an Airdisk backup when they installed the OS (i.e. it supports recovering from an Airdisk backup - so logically you should be able to do that).
 
I just installed iTimeMachine- and it worked!

this means that there really is no bug, and that apple is blocking features from us.
 
I just installed iTimeMachine- and it worked!

this means that there really is no bug, and that apple is blocking features from us.

Keep us posted if there are any problems...instability may be the reason Apple left this out...
 
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chuckles:) said:
I just installed iTimeMachine- and it worked!

this means that there really is no bug, and that apple is blocking features from us.

Let us know after you've done a complete restore of your system after a disk crash.

"Taking" a backup doesn't mean anything - only after a full restore can you know if it worked!
 
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Let us know after you've done a complete restore of your system after a disk crash.

"Taking" a backup doesn't mean anything - only after a full restore can you know if it worked!

I doubt my system will crash any time soon, but if i did have to do a restore, i would just plug the disk right into my computer and do it locally. Apple would never make you do that though, so it would be enough of a reason for them to remove the feature. but with that remote disk feature on the MBA, booting from a remote disk shouldn't be a problem anymore.
 
Ok, so holy S***. I took the advice of a member earlier in thread and could use time machine to back-up my external drives (attached to Mini via hub). I know from what I am reading here that you cannot assign TM to run on an airdisk for back-up, but can someone confirm right now that you can add an airdisk in TM to have it back it up (for those of you have have airdisk actually working in Leopard).

Say bye bye to back-up software if TM actually backs up airdisk if you can get it working.
 
I just installed iTimeMachine- and it worked!

this means that there really is no bug, and that apple is blocking features from us.

Get a good backup, then wipe your disk and try to restore using time machine then tell us.

Assuming you have confidence on iTimeMachine.
 
Why would they come out with an update for Airport Extreme to support Time Machine? They want people to buy Time Capsule rather than just plugging in their own HD and making Time Capsule obsolete.
 
Why would they come out with an update for Airport Extreme to support Time Machine? They want people to buy Time Capsule rather than just plugging in their own HD and making Time Capsule obsolete.

I agree with this, let's just fix airdisk first and then we can worry about TM.
 
Why would they come out with an update for Airport Extreme to support Time Machine? They want people to buy Time Capsule rather than just plugging in their own HD and making Time Capsule obsolete.

Because it's a perfectly reasonable assumption that backing up to external drives over a network would work. Hell, it was a perfectly reasonable assumption that the Apple backup software (pre time machine) would work with external hard drives or with disk burners, rather than just via .mac.

Yeah, OSX is only $129 as compared to whatever MS charges for Vista Super Duper Bacon Pro deluxe, but this nickel-and-diming the customer to death is annoying as hell. Especially since it's not "oversights", but explicit strategy.
 
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