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Mac OS X Snow Leopard Build 10A432 Designated 'Golden Master'

here's the thing: would apple really put two high profile events in three weeks? i think ipod and itunes will wait until late october, perhaps to steal the spotlight on windows 7. that's just me though, that and plus, you don't have to deal with the mess of the upgrading of tons of computers in a few weeks.

on sl, i only see two dates, 9/18 and 9/25 for release.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
No. They're usually $129.
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Yeah I know that, i simply made that question to compliment and address the reasoning for that apple would always make a clean install available since perhaps it would still require for insertion of a leopard install disk for verification, then to be able to choose wether to upgrade or clean install.... yea I think we'll get a clean install option...even for the $29 but we'll see what happens.
 
I was eligible for the $9.95 upgrade so I placed my order on June 16th. My visa card shows apple just submitted the charge on August 7th. Read into that as you like, but companies usually don't charge until they are ready to ship

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that's 9.95 + 0.70 tax
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
They sit there. Then usually the company issues a new version which replaces the one that doesn't work.
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wonder if it would be very unlikely that many apps may fail for the same reason and apple would issue a software update 'fixes several bugs' in 10.6.x :p
 
September brings good stuff.

It'll either be exciting or just new versions of old stuff. Here's hoping for the tablet to be announced with other releases in September.
 
aidricksdad said:
like what software?
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Mainly 64 bit kernel incompatibilties with 32bit extensions and plugins.
1Passwd doesn't work with 64bit Safari. Little snitch doesn't work at all in 64bit kernel (requires a 64bit extension, so a simple version update might fix this).
furcalchick said:
here's the thing: would apple really put two high profile events in three weeks? i think ipod and itunes will wait until late october, perhaps to steal the spotlight on windows 7. that's just me though, that and plus, you don't have to deal with the mess of the upgrading of tons of computers in a few weeks.

on sl, i only see two dates, 9/18 and 9/25 for release.
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Yes Apple will put two high profile events in the same month, they done it many times.
 
MikhailT said:
Mainly 64 bit kernel incompatibilties with 32bit extensions and plugins.
1Passwd doesn't work with 64bit Safari. Little snitch doesn't work at all in 64bit kernel (requires a 64bit extension, so a simple version update might fix this).


Yes Apple will put two high profile events in the same month, they done it many times.
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Snow Leopard lets you choose to run either 32 or 64 bit kernel. I've found the number of show stoppers to be very minimal with 100% 64 bit. My biggest problem being Vmware Fusion. However, a simple reboot to the 32 kernel solves that in time of need. I did contact Vmware engineers about this and they simply said theyre working on their new 64bit kexts and they will be rolling it out in an update sometime shortly after Snow Leopards release.

All in all I think it will be a simple matter of time before folks get their stuff fixed, and I still think the incompatibilities are few. At the same time they can also work on taking advantage of Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as well.

One thing I have found though is that SL brings HUGE performance gains right out of the box. Using Handbrake, taking a DVD5 movie down to 1gb h.264 with AC3 passthrough takes just under 2hrs on Leopard or Windows 7 on my MBP. With SL the same exact job takes 1hr 1min. Literally cut the time in half. Kudos to Apple on a magnificent job well done.
 
pyrodex said:
How does the 29$ version work? I know you have to have a current copy of Leopard (Unibody 17") but what if I erase the machine do I have to pull the M$ route and install leopard first then SL upgrade or just use the SL upgrade disc?
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Apple could certainly undo some of the ill will they've created with the App Store over the past few weeks if they allow fresh installs with the upgrade disc. It will be interesting to see their position on this.
 
teknishn said:
Snow Leopard lets you choose to run either 32 or 64 bit kernel. I've found the number of show stoppers to be very minimal with 100% 64 bit. My biggest problem being Vmware Fusion. However, a simple reboot to the 32 kernel solves that in time of need. I did contact Vmware engineers about this and they simply said theyre working on their new 64bit kexts and they will be rolling it out in an update sometime shortly after Snow Leopards release.

All in all I think it will be a simple matter of time before folks get their stuff fixed, and I still think the incompatibilities are few. At the same time they can also work on taking advantage of Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL as well.

One thing I have found though is that SL brings HUGE performance gains right out of the box. Using Handbrake, taking a DVD5 movie down to 1gb h.264 with AC3 passthrough takes just under 2hrs on Leopard or Windows 7 on my MBP. With SL the same exact job takes 1hr 1min. Literally cut the time in half. Kudos to Apple on a magnificent job well done.
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Isn't one of the stars of the show to use the 64 bit kernel .... and another accompanying 64bit kernel extensions. curious, roughly how many third party software developers use kernel extensions, and therefore how many of those software packages will no longer function partially or completely due to what I understand to be 64 bit requirements of all kexts in order to use the 64 bit kernel. please correct me if I am mistaken but if i understand that correctly if even one kext is 32 bit then the kernel will only function in 32 bit mode compromising one of the main stars of the show?!?

By the way, how is switching of the kernel from 32 to 64 bit and vise-versa accomplished? And will it be a natural user interface option during the boot / restart process or perhaps automatic non verbose where you have to check current system config to know if your kernel is running in which mode. sigh.
 
Maybe the end of the month!!!

I'm really hoping it lives up to the hype performance wise. One of the things I could always count on with Linux was the speed up each new release from the distributors offered up. Apple has been on a roll with 10.x but this is a major leap forward for the internals.

If it works as well as suggested I could see it effectively extending the life of my early 2008 MBP. I'm not clear though on the issue of compatibility with the GPU and such. Some disappointment is likely to be expressed by those with older hardware.

As to guessing delivery I'd like to see it in a couple of weeks. On the otherhand I'm wondering if the new version of iTunes will require SL. Either way I see this coming out well before the big iPod debut.



Dave
 
aidricksdad said:
like what software?
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I have issues in 421 with all adobe products, Billings (some has been resolved in 421) Safari, Fontcase, my HP scanning software, picturesque, and defaultfolderX and in general on 421 the save dialog boxes have been giving me sporadic problems with or without defaultfolder installed with reverting back to the starting folder when I click save instead of where I navigated to save the file.
 
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