Is Google relevant in the smartphone space with their phone offerings anymore? They have fallen so far off any marketshare charts that I've seen lately.
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Is Google relevant in the smartphone space with their phone offerings anymore? They have fallen so far off any marketshare charts that I've seen lately.
Good question. Though, I'm thinking Apple's thinking on this is less about the product and more about controlling the narrative in the media for the week. Apple would be more inclined to let them have their glory for that time and concentrate on what they can do after.
And seeing that the hiccup at this point in time is software, if their trend stands of 10 betas and 2 release candidates, they are still on target to meet that by the time they hit the week of Google's event. I'd still say that they are a good month away from releasing Monterrey, which puts them being the same amount of time away from installing it on the first batch of new Macs, which would be when they would have an event.
BL.
Google Pixel has been a yawn to me for since about 2012.
Monterrey does have problems though. I am running Beta 8 and have random CPU loops. I have Beta 9 up but I haven't played around with it. I think that they're still missing Universal Control.
BTW, if Apple shipped M1X MacBook Pros with Monterey still in Beta, you can bet I'd buy one. Or two. I'm typing on a 2015 MacBook Pro. I'm feeling really chilly right now and the 2015 is doing a nice job of keeping my legs and wrists warm. It's not fun during the summer though. BTW, it's warm without really running much of anything.
If there's no ProMotion and mini LED this year I will skip and wait for the M2X generation. Outside of Apple Silicon I really need the screen to get a major upgrade, those are my two primary reasons to upgrade and I need both to really commit to buying a new MacBook Pro especially considering I don't like the latest macOS updates for the past few years.
Until then, I'm gonna use an M1 MacBook Air for whenever I need to visit offices and present stuff because the battery life is a lot better than my MBP. All my actual work gets done at home with my MBP plugged into a couple screens and some accessories (HDD, mouse, keyboard, thunderbolt hub, etc.). On the go OOO stuff is mostly presenting and writing docs so the MBA M1 will do for now.
Until then, I'm gonna use an M1 MacBook Air for whenever I need to visit offices and present stuff because the battery life is a lot better than my MBP. All my actual work gets done at home with my MBP plugged into a couple screens and some accessories (HDD, mouse, keyboard, thunderbolt hub, etc.). On the go OOO stuff is mostly presenting and writing docs so the MBA M1 will do for now.
Oh, I would as well. I mean I'm surprised is that my mid-2011 MBA is still going, and not having a single bit of service needing to be done on it. However, I do hear the fan kicking on a lot now, and like yours, it's getting warm. I'm wondering if I'm starting to suffer from what happened to my wife's 2008 15" MBP, where the battery expanded so much that it caused the chassis to expand, especially around the trackpad.
I should be able to get another month out of this without any major problems, but right now Time Machine is my best friend.
BL.
You seem to be implying that with all the MacBook Pros being built at this very moment, that they would be holding the boxes open to install the MacOS at a later date (when Monterey is releasable). Logistically this seems to be massively difficult and time consuming. I find it hard to believe that, but rather think that they would be now loading Big Sur and telling the several million new MBP M1X owners to immediately upgrade to Monterrey when it becomes available.
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This is exactly what I am saying. After all, they did that for all M1 Macs last year:
while there were no Intel Macs that came with the first release of Big Sur. They instead got 11.0.1:
Again, with any new hardware that would need support, Apple would either have to go straight Monterrey on that new hardware, or spend the time to backport the support into Big Sur, which would be even more costly than waiting.
BL.
Very interesting bradl, thanks - I didn't know this. With this information it would seem logical/realistic for Apple to do the same this year - *now* be loading a Monterrey beta into the newest MBPs and have buyers upgrade to the released version. I really could not see Apple warehousing hundreds of thousands partially completed MBPs, to go back just weeks later to install the OS and then box it up for delivery. As an aside, I wonder just how long it would take to install an OS per computer, and if they were to do that, would they be testing each unit to ensure all works well (quality control)?
With the current 16” shipping times already out 1-2 weeks and being unobtanium in stores, I do not believe that there will be another month before the event. Apple will find a way to put out invites next week… I hope.
I was thinking about that - how even the day after Google’s event and even into Thursday there will still be a lot of coverage and articles and opinions trickling into the headlines and eating up the news cycle and coverage. A tricky situation for Apple if they did initially want to launch the MBPs that week.
As far as the Friday launches, I think that’s more of a product-with-pre-order thing. When’s the last time (if ever) we got a Friday morning pre-order on a Mac with it shipping out the following Friday? (Edit: I just remembered this year’s iMacs had a Friday pre-order. Hmm) That schedule is usually reserved for the mobile products - iPhone / iPad / Watch. All three of the M1 Macs from last November’s keynote were available to order immediately after the keynote.
I also don’t know about writing off the whole week of the earnings call. As one counter-example in 2018 Apple had an event on October 30 and then announced their Q4 earnings two days later on November 1. That’s a different type of news cycle. The bigger problem with the 26th is that it would lend itself to invites on the 19th…. Which might get lost in the Pixel Mix.
Eh, I would not be so sure. There are plenty of valid dates in October that dance around the rest of the mess of everything else going on. There’s a lot of smoke right now, and 16” MBPs are completely sold out in Apple Stores. I‘m not too inclined to believe they’re going to sit another full month with no 16” product on the shelves. That’s a lot of lost sales. I’m really expecting something in the next few weeks.
I don’t get your point here… If Big Sur demonstrated that they can release the RC on the same day as the announcement event then that could easily occur in another 9 days or so. There doesn’t have to be a tenth non-RC beta, and there don’t have to be two RCs either. Not all of these software builds are going to follow the same development cycle, it’ll all depend on their relative stability.
Many reports are reporting event will be in October. Gurman himself also confirmed it. No one has the real answer. Everyone is speculating at this point. You can view post #1 and MacRumors also reported the event may be in October.
Highly suggesting you to review this article please. Posted by MacRumors 1 day ago.
When Could the October Apple Event Be Held?
Update: Apple has now announced its October event for Monday, October 18. Apple is rumored to be hosting an event this month to unveil new MacBook...
www.macrumors.com
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I hope we get our event invites next week! Praying 🙏
What I am saying is that if the trend holds true, then we can roughly guestimate not only around when there could be an event to launch the new models, but also around when Monterrey could get dropped as well. There is also the aspect of trying to hit the same day as they did last year (give/take a couple of days) to give the 1-year warning of being the last Intel Macs to be sold..
I'll admit that the 1-year warning is a weak argument, but could be one they are also considering..
BL.
Oh no.. Apple - let alone any other company - would never load a beta version of hardware that will be sold to the masses to have them upgrade themselves. This would even run the risk of not even working properly to get the upgrade, leading to lawsuits from every lawyer on the planet. That would lead Apple to recall everything and handle the install themselves, at their cost... which would be more expensive than installing it on all of the Macs themselves before being sold.
They won't rush hardware out - despite user demand for it - without accompanying stable software... and hearing how Monterrey is going right now, it isn't stable enough for mass consumption.
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See post #208. Any new hardware that would require Monterrey would not have support in Big Sur, unless they try to backport that support into Big Sur. That would require a lot more time than they have right now to get ported into Big Sur, especially since they are a couple of weeks away from a Release Candidate.
BL.
However, I never go by leakers, Or the rumor mill crowd. When Apple announces the event, then I would post a pre-order section. And that is how I would do it. Never jumped the gun on rumors. 😉Many reports are reporting event will be in October. Gurman himself also confirmed it. No one has the real answer. Everyone is speculating at this point. You can view post #1 and MacRumors also reported the event may be in October.
Highly suggesting you to review this article please. Posted by MacRumors 1 day ago.
When Could the October Apple Event Be Held?
Update: Apple has now announced its October event for Monday, October 18. Apple is rumored to be hosting an event this month to unveil new MacBook...
Well, technically, no he didn't. This is Gurman's exact quote from October 2:
That means it could be anywhere from about October 19 to November 2, and that's assuming he's actually correct.Mark Gurman said:
BTW, that statement doesn't seem to bode well for the updated the M1X Mac mini this calendar year, but that's what I'm personally interested in, even though I don't need it since the 16 GB M1 Mac mini is more than powerful enough for my needs for a secondary machine. The main drawback of the M1 Mac mini is the relatively few ports. Plus it's due for a case design upgrade.
In contrast, the M1X MacBook Pro is likely going to be a much more compelling upgrade vs. the existing M1 MacBook Pro, even for people who don't need the power of M1X. The rumoured MagSafe alone is compelling enough, not to mention the other ports like HDMI and SD slot.
and will probably lead to a November event.
Anybody remember 2016 and the introduction of the crappy new 15“ MacBook Pro?
Same thing happened then…
I doubt it. This thing is going to be announced this month — by the 28th. It may not ship until the 1st week of Nov.
Just curious, why? Why not High Sierra? It's just as stable, has better features, and has better support too (unless you're running some old legacy software).
Mid-2011 13" MBA. High Sierra was never stable for me. Locked up spontaneously without any way to recover. That was from both an in-place upgrade and a barebones vanilla install. It wouldn't even stay stable enough for me to do a TM restore, so I'm stuck on Sierra.
BL.