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MacBooks AND MacBook Pros?
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Keeping in mind that best buy has shown they are low on inventory for about a month and that could be a signal it is tomorrow but its just gotten so out of hand so quickly.
It would be an apple thing to do to make a refresh...*sigh* now even I'm turning my head inside out on this.
Well, I'll just wake up tomorrow and see what is on my plate. And hopefully relish it.
You know the GFX memory is mainly for textures dont you, the pipelines, gpu mhz, cpu mhz are far more important for gfx output
I hope they will finally improve the portability of the MBP. How many years has it been with the same dimensions&weight. How many years has it been since the Ti-Powerbook? 7! How many since the aluminum? 5! I'm begging Steve for an option without the unnecessary (I know I will get chastised for this here) optical drive, so that the thing can be at least 0.2 inches and 1 pound lighter (rough estimates).
But when games like X-Plane use over 800MB of video memory, a bump in it will help.
minor.
I have a 384MB nvidia 8800GTS in my gaming PC, I use to have a PC Laptop with a Mobile 7600 with 512MB, there is no competition the 7600 gets stomped.
your falling for the gimmick, believe me you would rather have ati's new GPU with 256MB then last years GPU with 512MB.
I highly doubt is gonna release MB and MBP updates tomorrow, and here's why:
Since the PowerBook/iBook days, the PowerBook was always released first, as Apple usually tends to their pro customers first, consumer customers second. It's no different for this generation with the MacBook and MacBook Pro, thus why they won't release at the same time.
As others have said, giving the regular MacBooks dedicated video cards and processors faster than that of the MacBook Pro wouldn't make much sense because then how would you differentiate between the two models?
I think it's more likely that the SDK could be released, or the delay will be formally announced. Also, aren't developer's tools really only available through Apple's Developer's Connection site and through an NDA-inducing contract? That's how it was with the Mac OS X Developers Tools from the days of 10.1 through 10.3 or so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In a way I agree about the MacBook Air / PowerMac G4 Cube comparison. The G4 Cube was a marvel of design, but it was overpriced and didn't appeal to everyone. Saying that the MBA is similar I agree with. It's overpriced, and it's not for everyone. I really wanted a Cube.. Oh well.
Since the PowerBook/iBook days, the PowerBook was always released first, as Apple usually tends to their pro customers first, consumer customers second. It's no different for this generation with the MacBook and MacBook Pro, thus why they won't release at the same time.
As others have said, giving the regular MacBooks dedicated video cards and processors faster than that of the MacBook Pro wouldn't make much sense because then how would you differentiate between the two models?
I think it's more likely that the SDK could be released, or the delay will be formally announced. Also, aren't developer's tools really only available through Apple's Developer's Connection site and through an NDA-inducing contract? That's how it was with the Mac OS X Developers Tools from the days of 10.1 through 10.3 or so. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In a way I agree about the MacBook Air / PowerMac G4 Cube comparison. The G4 Cube was a marvel of design, but it was overpriced and didn't appeal to everyone. Saying that the MBA is similar I agree with. It's overpriced, and it's not for everyone. I really wanted a Cube.. Oh well.
Well that's a totally different situation, that's a high end card versus a midrange, a newer generation versus an older, a desktop versus a laptop card. I'm just saying that a 512MB card would be worth paying more for than a 256MB of the same GPU. The 9500M GS has the same specs as the 8600M GT and I don't see much reference to higher end nvidia mobile cards of the GF9 generation.
This again? How small / light do you want a full-featured, professional-level laptop computer to be. Name any other full-featured laptop computer in this category that beats the Macbook Pro for dimensions and weight. Is that .2 inches really gonna help you? Are you sliding it under a door with regularity? And how much difference will 1 pound make. Are you so weak that you can't lift 5.4 pounds to set on your lap? If so, I hope you never have kids (they get bigger and heavier with time, not lighter and smaller. Or is it so heavy that it wears and tears on your legs while sitting? (again, see kid quote above)
P.S. - By the way ... That option WAS recently provided to you ... it's called "Macbook Air".
The gains would be minor but apples prices would be major, your statement is poor because it would be poor of apple to pimp last years GPU in this years Products if you like gaming, a poultry 256Mb upgrade will be a kick in your balls.
A new GPU is what you want Nvidia's new 9600GT is almost a match for last years 8800GT with a big price difference, which means the 9800 range should be very fast.
0.2 inches? You are crazy if that makes a big difference to you. Compared to other laptops equally featured, this thing is like paper! And it hasn't been years with the same weight...get your facts straight.
Wikipedia said:
Since the 0.2 inches is such a big deal to you, then the .2 pounds should have been big enough for you to remember.
Seriously work out. 5 pounds is squat.
I've heard nothing about a 9600M GT though, and I need a MacBook Pro soon, so whatever they put in this coming update, I'm getting.
Kinda mirrors my remarks 2 posts earlier. Guess I'm not the only one sick of these ridiculous posts by people like that guy.
Sorry, but I tend to believe the majority of people who buy MBP's are not professionals but regular old "consumers" as you put who want the best they can get whether it fits their needs or not. In the past I think Apple catered more to "professionals" but ever since the iPod their focus has shifted, so don't count on them favoring you just because your some sort of "professional."
Also, why would the SDK be showing up in store inventory?! lol
...The MacBook Pro originally released BEFORE the MacBook. The MacBook Pro replaced the PowerBook. 3 or so months later the MacBook came out, replacing the iBook, thus phasing out "i" in the notebook naming scheme. I'm sorry, but I know my stuff, and I'm by no means "ignorant". The MacBook Pro and MacBook both originally released in early-mid 2006. Please do your research before posting such nonsense.
You're probably right
Sorry if I'm being whiny. My point was really just that I'm surprised that there hasn't been any progress on the side of portability for over half a decade. Yet I agree that the MBP still beats other companies. Probably they were just a decade ahead of everybody else when they initially introduced the Ti/Al Powerbooks, so it naturally takes another decade to top this.Sorry, you're still suggesting Apple values its "professional" customers over the everyday "consumer." Yes, the Powerbook, then Macbook, replacing the iBook, blah, blah, I know that. That implies nothing ...but since you know what models preceded and replaced what (you really know your stuff BTW) I will just take your word for it (because, after all ...you really know your stuff.)
Look, we appear to have differing views on this, so let's both stop while we're both ahead. There's no point in arguing and insulting each other.
(Thanks Dr Q)
You're probably right
Again, I emphasize ... MACBOOK AIR!!!! How much more "portable" do you need. You can mail it to yourself in a manila envelope for Pete's sake. Watch the commercial.
TOMORROW....WE DINE IN HELL!!
WE ARE MACRUMORS!!
(Desperately waiting for an updated MBP......the blog's fury will rise tomorrow if there are no updates)
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Genius.
Does anyone else who have been checking this thread daily have a nagging voice in the back of their head saying "Get a life! Get a life!"
Well I do, and I say right back "Get a life yourself, voice!"