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macOS 10.12.2 Fixes Time Machine Backup Crashing Issue on New MacBook Pro

jkmoses said:
I also find it amazing how many people that are complaining don't actually own one of these laptops. I have one and I actually love it. I've had no problems whatsoever. I'd say it's a pretty good shot for a major redesign. Price is pretty steep but the performance is actually really good. Don't believe everything you read.
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I have no issues with it. My reasons for waiting are for Apple to sort out issues and to optimize for the new hardware.

Since my 15" Radeon MBP is from 2015 I have a few more years before I will replace it.
 
840quadra said:
There is a reason many of us longtime Apple users avoid rev A products. Let's just say apple has a history of this.
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Ok.
Apple has a history of this.
And understandable 15 years ago when they were a struggling company on the verge of extinction.

But Apple today has 100K employees, hundreds of billions in the bank and a trillion dollar valuation.
The current state of affiars is inexcusable, imo.
 
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TMRJIJ said:
MacRumors is too big now. Looking back to 2006-10 when I went by different profile name, it took weeks and months for bugs to make the news (if they bothered to report it at all). This is making the site money now.
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Are you suggesting a link between Apple and their design/production of MBPs and macrumors? If Apple is purposely designing pieces of junk, which a lot of people will buy anyway, and simultaneously generating revenue for a Web site that revels in bad news for the MBP line...do you see where I'm going with this? *carefully arranges tinfoil hat on his head*
 
ocnitsa said:
Are you suggesting a link between Apple and their design/production of MBPs and macrumors? If Apple is purposely designing pieces of junk, which a lot of people will buy anyway, and simultaneously generating revenue for a Web site that revels in bad news for the MBP line...do you see where I'm going with this? *carefully arranges tinfoil hat on his head*
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No *carefully adjusts Fedora on his head*
 
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840quadra said:
Amazing all the outcry over something that is fixed. These systems have problems for sure, but it's really funny that in the Information Age, how short term and volatile people's memory is.

There is a reason many of us longtime Apple users avoid rev A products. Let's just say apple has a history of this.
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When everyone else is loosing their head and you're not, perhaps you don't understand the problem.

We have Mac mini, iMac, 13 and 15 MBP at our place and NONE have ever crashed with Machine Check. We've never had a machine with broken GPU and I/O subsystem, the first day.

Apple has been surprisingly good at delivering quality the first try. You say you have experience, didn't you ever own own Mac Classic, or a "Rev A" Titanium Powerbook, those were awesome machines, right out of the gate. For that matter the first iPhone was fantastic.

Flame off.
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davemiles said:
Hi Joe, I was surprised to get a response from Craig too, but he did reply to me this afternoon. I've sent the email and header across to MacRumours to verify.

Feel free to look me up below if you doubt my authenticity as a real human being:

https://www.twitter.com/miles_dave
https://www.davemiles.net
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OK Sorry about that, you're obviously better connected than I am, or just lucky. No offense.
 
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I have the 2016 MBPtb -- I've had absolutely zero problems with it. Even Time Machine works fine.

2.9/16/1TB/460
 
with that big of a file, sounds like corruption or an issue with their external media. but in noway am I apologizing for the lackluster 2016 MBP
 
TMRJIJ said:
MacRumors uses this to get views. Looking back to 2006-10 when I went by different profile name, it took weeks and months for bugs to make the news (if they bothered to report it at all).
This is making the site money now. A random person can drop his iPhone on the ground, claim the iPhone 7 are prone to screen damage, and the story will be on the front page in minutes.
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Perhaps if Apple made a quality product these kinds of things wouldn't be front page news
 
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Weird. I saw the time machine symbol and thought it was a fix for some issues I'm having with time machine on my iMac and my MacBook Pro (2013).

Here's hoping!
 
65 posts and only one person asked the question . Has anyone tried it.

Frankly that should have been the only post . The rest is just scary attitudes. What have we become

Anyway I have a 15 2.9,1Tb, 460 and not one issue. It's actually my second one without issue. Changed color

Even if I did have a issue , I know Apple would address it.
 
voyagerd said:
Apple should have waited to ship the MBP until 10.2.2...
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Guy Mancuso said:
65 posts and only one person asked the question . Has anyone tried it.

Frankly that should have been the only post . The rest is just scary attitudes. What have we become

Anyway I have a 15 2.9,1Tb, 460 and not one issue. It's actually my second one without issue. Changed color

Even if I did have a issue , I know Apple would address it.
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The solution is only in test, we knew it was fixed in 10.12.2 Beta 5, plenty of people have reported that. The importance of this article was Apple acknowledging that the problem even exists, as well as addressing it. Support has been denying any knowledge until now.

So in reality, no its not fixed or available for nonBeta testers to try, when 10.12.2 is released then Apple can claim victory.
 
Time Machine backup issues also apply to my iMac (late-2012) since macOS 10.12.1.

It just force-recreate a new backup within few days. I just lost all my previous backup in case in need.

I have to buy a new NAS along with my current Time Capsule 802.11ac for all my Mac backups.

This bug have already reported to Apple, they just following up and waiting for fix.
 
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joedec said:
When everyone else is loosing their head and you're not, perhaps you don't understand the problem.

We have Mac mini, iMac, 13 and 15 MBP at our place and NONE have ever crashed with Machine Check. We've never had a machine with broken GPU and I/O subsystem, the first day.

Apple has been surprisingly good at delivering quality the first try. You say you have experience, didn't you ever own own Mac Classic, or a "Rev A" Titanium Powerbook, those were awesome machines, right out of the gate. For that matter the first iPhone was fantastic.

Flame off.
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A look back, and on shuffle as I don't have time to link / recall every issue that was posted here and other places over the years. Not all are Rev A, but many are.

Titanium Powerbook
Display hinge issues as well as Slot load drive problems

15" Aluminum Powerbook (Rev A)
White spots on display

White iBook G3,
Display hinge issues / logic board failures (this is technically a rev B, however Rev A had similar issues and I can't find the link, and I was personally impacted by this)

MacBook Pro 15" (1st Addition)
Battery failures / other early issues

MacBook Pro 15"
Vertical Stripes and Vertical stripes

The long standing video issues with 2011+ MBP

08 Unibody MacBook Pro
Trackpad issues (I personally had this problem as well and was my last RevA purchase)

iMac Intel
random freeze issue (Not revA, but it was a significant bump as it was 1st with Mini display port, faster memory and chipsets)

27" iMac
performance issues

Macbook Air
Logic Board failures

iPad
Yellow spots on screens

There are plenty more, simply searching this site's News section (and archives) under the word "issues" reveal quite a library of various hardware and software issues.

For the record, I am not saying Apple is bad, nor do I have anything against people who buy Rev A systems, I just have seen / dealt with some over the years.

Bubba Satori said:
Ok.
Apple has a history of this.
And understandable 15 years ago when they were a struggling company on the verge of extinction.

But Apple today has 100K employees, hundreds of billions in the bank and a trillion dollar valuation.
The current state of affiars is inexcusable, imo.
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I agree, the issues shouldn't exist. However, as I indicated above, the issues haven't really slowed down in the past 15 years.
 
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reden said:
My MacBook Pro is perfectly fine. No issues here. I understood what I was buying into, the lack of ports, etc. Not sure, I feel most people complaining are the ones that won't own one anyway. I waited for this upgrade, and to me it's an upgrade from my previous laptop. I do a lot of design work, and it's a great machine. Battery life is phenomenal.
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I actually really enjoy mine (pre-ordered maxed out version, started reading the first reported problems, got cold feet and cancelled order. After they started showing in  stores, I purchased a non BTO option, 2.7ghz) its been a pretty nice machine. What's weird is it basically has been sitting on my desk, I use it in the evening, but still find myself taking my Early 2011 CMBP to work with me as it has been my trusty sidekick for so long.... Love the screen on the new one but still really like my "OLD ASS MBP". Still feel this new one is a definite upgrade over my 2011.

Now to why I replied to your text. I was with you until you got to Battery life is phenomenal.... Really? C'mon now, if you own one, you know its not getting the battery life  says it is.

Its one thing to love it and yet another to lie for it......

Enjoy the ride.
 
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840quadra said:
Amazing all the outcry over something that is fixed. These systems have problems for sure, but it's really funny that in the Information Age, how short term and volatile people's memory is.

There is a reason many of us longtime Apple users avoid rev A products. Let's just say apple has a history of this.
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90% of the complainers are those that cant afford them with the new prices :)
 
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