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macOS 10.14 Mojave Drops Support for Many Older Machines
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I wonder if they’ll figure this out like they did with the “innovative” Mac Pro of yesteryear...
Next year? What makes you think that?
Mountain Lion dropped all pre-2007 and some newer Macs up to early 2008
Mavericks dropped none.
Yosemite dropped none.
El Capitan dropped none.
Sierra dropped pre-2010 Macs (mostly)
High Sierra dropped none.
Now Mojave drops pre-2012 Macs (mostly, except earlier Mac Pro upgraded with Metal capable GPU).
2012 Macs (except Mac Pro) are pretty modern machines, with Ivy Bridge CPUs, all Metal-capable GPUs, I see no reason why Apple should drop those next year. I can very well imagine even 10.16 still supporting the same Macs that Mojave does, except for the 2010-2012 Mac Pro.
Your 2013 MBP being dropped as early as next year seems completely out of question to me.
You might be able to get away with a TB2 eGPU via some fairly easy hack, and maybe another hack to make macOS run on it since it has Metal support, but yeah, unsupported.
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This isn't true. Check the dates of the updates on this page, and you see older macOS versions supported. It seems to be the current + the past 2, and AFAIK it's all patches. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
They don't have a rule in place for this, and ofc it's subject to change.
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Exactly what I was thinking -- Who upgrades iMac CPUs??? RAM is nice to upgrade, though. And swappable GPU would be nice just cause they keep frikin dying.
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Dropped support for 4 year old MacBooks? That was back in 2012 when Mountain Lion dropped the Late 2008 plastic MacBook. That's 6 years ago, how does that now make Apple "just a standard company"?
They haven't since dropped any Mac model younger than 7 years!
As a freelancing developer and jack of all trades consultant, I've always had a bag of dongles and I've never had enough ports for the things I needed to do.
I have a 2016 MBP now. I didn't care for thin before, but now that I've experienced it, I'll never go back. I no longer have to have the conversation whether it's worth it for me to haul my laptop around with me. If I think there's a chance I'll need it, I take it with me.
Thin and light is AWESOME and I still carry about the same number of dongles. The only dongle I wish I didn't need is one for the SD card, but in a couple of years, I'll likely have upgraded to a camera that uses the much faster XD card format.
Each to his own. I never needed them, since everything just connected to it or somebody had what I needed. Rarely find that so far with the C.
Maybe it was a typo and what he meant to encourage is Back to the Hack(ingtosh)
Personally, I'm still using my iMac 2011 and it looks like Microsoft is willing to offer me plenty more lifetime than Apple do for this machine. Let's not even get into Linux distros...
I understand that there are some compromises to be made and I'm not mad about getting 7 really good years, what I am mad about that there is no real replacement that feels like a no-compromise AIO premium machine that doesn't automatically put me into the iMac Pro ballpark...
Matter of fact, I'd gladly take a good non-trashbin Mac Pro with the old price points at this point that's a current performance equivalent and bring my own display.
I'd likely use my old iMac at first and later move to something else, probably not an Apple display though, because I'm about done getting more than necessary.
But since none of this is going to happen I'll just rock this one out until I don't even get security patches anymore, get some cheap Mac to continue running my Mac-exclusive stuff in a secure way and go gung ho on the Windows and Linux side of things. I'm done waiting.
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I just had my GPU fixed in my 2011 Mackbook Pro, so it’s been running really great. Got excited to see this update until they showed the models not supported anymore. I’m surprised my MacBook wouldn’t be able to run it, the 16 gigs of RAM help keep it running smooth. There’s no way I could afford a new model. With that said I can’t blame them for not supporting seven year old tech.
My early 2012 MacBook Air isn't on the list. I could say something really nasty but I would get banned. I'm thinking it though. It's my last Apple product, no more. I've got a Dell that is 10 years old and runs Win 10 just fine. With the extreme high prices for their computers and phones, no more.
Though a little bit off topic, quite interesting. Did you make a thread about this? Maybe installing Yosemite or lower first would give you the needed firmware by initiating a High Sierra update. Or simply try downloading High Sierra from another Mac where Yosemite or lower is still installed to get the High Sierra installer stub and not the full copy.
There is no Early 2012 MacBook Air. Only Mid 2011, which is not supported, and Mid 2012, which is supported.
You don't get banned just for loving a PC instead of a Mac, but you do get banned for being a jerk.
I seem to recall some work arounds to get Sierra and High Sierra installed on older macs that were dropped by Apple. A number of features that required newer hardware obviously would not work. It might operate a little slower. You also took your chances because there was no support from Apple. However, it was possible because Intel processors were common with the same instruction set. There may be an issue with 32 bit processors, but Macs with 64 bit processors I would think would still work.
Well, in the 2011 iMac CPU and CPU are changeable.
They are not upgradeable in the true sense of the word, because a) Apple never released a BIOS update that allowed newer CPUs and b) never made a GPU-card that had anything better than an AMD 6770.
So you can swap components, but there is no way to prolong its useful life under macOS.
Time for an upgrade. If only there was something worth upgrading to...
Well, Safari and Xcode will be supported for awhile on High Sierra.
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I have a PC from 2003 and it runs Windows 10.
Also, it's possible to install Windows 10 on a MacBook (2006) and it'll run fine and it's up to date.
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Time to get a Windows machine. On Windows machines run for awhile and perfectly. As I mentioned I have a PC from 2003 and it RUNS Windows 10 quite well. It certainly isn't the fastest, but you can still do basic things. Including play games like San Andreas etc.
If you would've bought PC, you'd be fully supported still. Asus computers are great! Recently bought one for my relative's birthday for 500€ it has 16GB of RAM and 120GB SSD with Intel HD graphics and multitouch touchpad. It's also possible to install Windows 10 on a MacBook from 2006 and it'll run quite well. (Watch the video above). If Apple won't provide you the drivers that's not an issue. You can find compatible drivers by yourself. A lot of people forget that Macs are just overpriced PCs.
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I have a functional Dell computer from 2008 (running Windows 10) and a PC from 2003 running Windows 10…
Wow. Still functional.
Just don't buy HP. Asus is the best and so is Dell and Thinkpad.
The best thing of course would be building PC on your own. My custom run PC is from 2003
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Actually, I had a Windows 7 machine that worked just great for 7 years, and I gave it to a friend when I moved (and everything was working just fine). It was solid as a rock, and I'm sure it would have lasted for at least a couple more years.
Forget about all the junk MS released after Windows 7 ... and you'll be fine.
Just buy a Windows PC or build one by yourself. I have a PC from 2003 running Windows 10 and it runs it quite well actually.
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Actually Windows 10 is pretty great and Windows PCs are supported for much longer and as I already mentioned I have a PC from 2003 and it's running Windows 10 quite well.
But doesn't Windows 10 come with all kinds of bloatware and adware ? And I read that the adware can't be removed. Updates happen without your permission, restarting the PC ? It sends all your info to MS ?
I've read of only nightmares with Windows 8 and 10. Have I been misinformed or have people found a way around the $#!t-ware ?
Ideally, I'd have both a Windows desktop (gaming) and a Macbook Pro. Sigh.