shanmugam said:if Apple keeps the old technology keeping 3GS when iPhone HD available android market will win ...
unless of course they are selling the 3GS with out 2 year contract ($55 x 24 )= $1320.
i see this WWDC for iPhone as "Deliver now or regret later";
definitely people are keeping eye on Android regardless of it's shortcomings (only thing stopping them is iTunes and App store; app store can be created by Google, iTunes?)![]()
Spent the weekend with Android on an EVO. Wow. Night and day. Android simply blows the doors off my iPhone. The only plus for the iphone is that I have a bunch of DRM music and videos. I hope they announce a ton of changes to the OS to bring it up to the capabilities of Android, otherwise good riddance to overpriced, under functioning hardware. But also using Android shows me why its not right for a huge chunk of the iphone audience. It requires some thought to use, and the level of simplicity the iphone has is lacking. The iPhone OS is devoid of choices, but it works. For most folks that will be enough. It's also a notch in Androids favor that my EVO didn't drop a single call all weekend. ATT is awful. No news there though.
Love my Macs, but after using an EVO all weekend, Apple is going to have to have some monumental iphone announcements to keep me as a customer.
BRLawyer said:And what's SO much better on the EVO, may you enlighten us?
After my usual phone conversation with SJ, here is what is gonna happen tomorrow:
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Virtually everything is customizable. Instead of being forced to do things one way, you literally can choose multiple methods of completing tasks. Another huge plus was the choice of two free amazingly good turn by turn apps. Like I said though its not for people who just want simplicity. It's for people who love to tinker etc. I also loved that I could immediately tether it to my laptop and PS3 at no extra cost. After using it, there's really no going back for me, but I reserve the right to be blown away by iPhone changes tomorrow. And widgets are an amazing thing. The iPhone needs them and they need them now.
Another huge plus was the ability to view Flash sites at my own choosing. No more going to websites and not being able to view a video. I CHOOSE which videos and content I get to see on the EVO, the EVO doesn't choose for me.
Last edit: the ability to swap out the stock keyboard for a Swype keyboard. Every device should add the option to use something like this. You can see a similar version of it on the iphone or Touch. I believe it's called Shapewriter, but obviously Apple doesn't allow you to use it in any other apps.
So in other words, the "advantages" are as follows:
1 - Customization possibilities - nice but superfluous, especially when a controlled environment for phones is SO much better than an open (and hackable) space; next, please;
2 - Widgets are apps, apps are widgets - a simple software update could do that to make them appear in the home screen - next, please;
3 - Still Flash? No comments, I pass;
4 - Swipe keyboards? Nice and easily implementable via a software update.
So you can count one real advantage today for the EVO. The rest is irrelevant in the scheme of things, notably considering the iPhone's HUGE advantage in terms of ecosystem, security and stability.
As for AT&T, also irrelevant since the iPhone is an international device sold with dozens of different carriers. The US is just one market, and AT&T has already made great strides in terms of upgrading its network for the higher data demands of iPhone users.
BRLawyer said:So in other words, the "advantages" are as follows:
Oh I actually thought you cared about what the differences are, but you're just one of those "if the iphone doesn't have it, it's not needed" types. Carry on. Some of us enjoy the competition because it forces companies to improve or become irrelevant, and the more I use the Evo, the more irrelevant my 3GS feels. Hopefully they have enough improvements to announce tomorrow to bring iphone OS more in line with Android 2.1(I haven't even seen the improvements Froyo brings).
applemax said:I have no need for Flash, seeing as HTML5 will supersede it, without question, especially with the recent security flaws. Flash on a computer, let alone a mobile device, just doesn't work. It's highly unoptimised, takes up 95% of the CPU and is insanely buggy.
Apple shouldn't allow third-party keyboards, as it would take away from the unified user interface that its customers know and love. Instead, they should implement customisations such as key size, key colour, key font, etc...
Virtually everything is customizable.
There's no reason the "typing" method implemented in Swype couldn't be used in the unified keyboard. I guess I'm more a fan of choosing my method than having it chosen for me. For example, Im typing this on an iPad running Perfect Browser instead of Safari. I love that choice.
I agree that Flash is inefficient, but I want the option to view Flash content. And on the evo, a touch of e screen loads the video I want to see, whereas on my iPad I get to see none of it. That's a terrible user experience.
Couldn't agree more with you about widgets. The guy short selling them as merely being apps is clueless.
muskratboy said:i just want to know about the battery life. reviews say it's terrible. is it terrible? it has to be terrible, right?
that big screen + processor + 4G has GOT to mean miserable battery life. right? does it?
unless it goes all day, it's just not gonna have broad success. people on here still complain all the time about the iphone battery life sucking.
but hey... it's got a kickstand!![]()
Virtually everything is customizable. Instead of being forced to do things one way, you literally can choose multiple methods of completing tasks. Another huge plus was the choice of two free amazingly good turn by turn apps. Like I said though its not for people who just want simplicity. It's for people who love to tinker etc. I also loved that I could immediately tether it to my laptop and PS3 at no extra cost. After using it, there's really no going back for me, but I reserve the right to be blown away by iPhone changes tomorrow. And widgets are an amazing thing. The iPhone needs them and they need them now.
Another huge plus was the ability to view Flash sites at my own choosing. No more going to websites and not being able to view a video. I CHOOSE which videos and content I get to see on the EVO, the EVO doesn't choose for me.
Last edit: the ability to swap out the stock keyboard for a Swype keyboard. Every device should add the option to use something like this. You can see a similar version of it on the iphone or Touch. I believe it's called Shapewriter, but obviously Apple doesn't allow you to use it in any other apps.
applemax said:I've just watched the Swype video - looks good! I can see Apple buying those guys out some time...
Flash on an iPhone isn't a good idea, unless the hardware can support it fully without compromising the rest of the OS. However, I think it needs to be on the iPad, at least until HTML5 takes off.
PsudoPowerPoint said:Thanks for taking the time to explain why you like the EVO. All are legitimate reasons to call the EVO superior given your personal preferences, but maybe less so for some people.
My experience with AT&T dropping calls has improved substantially in the last several months. Since they made their "Mark The Spot" app available I don't think I've had a call dropped. However I do find it frustrating that a year after Apple made the iPhone tethering capable, that AT&T is just now making it available, and charge an additional $15 per month for the service.