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Mark Gurman: Apple Exploring iPads With Larger Displays
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And yet, many people were furious about iPadOS limiting features and powers. Apple said iPad can replace laptops but it never did.
Doesn't stop them from buying them.
I assume when you brought up MS Surface doing well, you mean their sales. Same question to you: What does it have to do with sales? Unless you mean a different metric.
Laptops are a type of PC. Your chart shows ALL PC’s. Which includes things that… you know… AREN’T laptops, you see. Making the chart invalid as a response specifically to what I’m referring to.
iOS chart shows ALL iOS devices and iPadOS devices. Do you really think iPad Pro has a large market share?Laptops are a type of PC. Your chart shows ALL PC’s. Which includes things that… you know… AREN’T laptops, you see. Making the chart invalid as a response specifically to what I’m referring to.
Doesn't cover up iPadOS limitation. Surface is PC which is totally different from iPadOS. What do you even expect to say?
So...don't purchase an iPad. Simply use a laptop/desktop and find happiness.
Upset that Apple isn't acceding to your wishes despite vocalizing your personal wants? No worries mate, simply purchase a device from an Apple competitor that meets your needs. Paradise is close at hand!
Never said it covers up iPadOS limitation.
You're not explaining what you mean by MS Surface doing well. If Surface is totally different, why bring it up?
And that's what I've been saying since the beginning. Read carefully.
Surface can take all advantages from Windows OS while iPad Pro suffers from iPadOS's limitation. We are talking about OS. Clearly, you dont understand the point.
So how's that complaining working out for you? Making any progress?
If a company doesn't manufacture a product I need, I simply give my business to another company. Easy. Or purchase a Surface if I wanted a touch computer. But I don't.
I guess I could have a good moan-n-whine on a public forum, but why would I ever want to embarrass myself. That makes no sense.
And since the beginning, I've said that it's stupid to remove this limitation as it would complicate the UI just for the sake of mirroring what a Mac can do when people can just buy a Mac if they really wanted a Mac experience.
And you still haven't explained what you mean by "MS Surface doing well". "Taking all advantages from Windows" is not a detail of "doing well". I suspect you realized you brought up Surface sales, but then couldn't answer your own question of bringing up sales.
It's like talking in circles. We're done. Have a good day.
Is that how Mac Pro 2013 worked? People complained and blamed Apple. They finally changed everything after several years. Mac Pro 2013 is not the only example.
Not necessarily. When MS added touch and stylus support to Windows, did it rename the OS? At this point, to me, touch and stylus / Pencil are just features. Nothing more. They should not define the OS.
Then what's the point of making PRO version iPad while OS is limiting the power? You still can't explain why after all.
And I explained every clearly: Windows 10 unlike iPadOS limiting several things. And do you really think Surface is the only tablet laptop? Gosh. Since you never bring up some proofs, you just admiring the limitation of iPadOS after all.
The majority of folks are using devices for basic tasks are predominantly using smartphones, not even tablets.You say “once you get past those uses”, the majority of folks on the internet today NEVER get past those uses
And Windows 11 provides tablet mode and optimize for touch features. macOS isn't for touch is stupid.
Go with Windows/Surface and find happiness. Moaning about Apple's decision will not.
Oddly enough, I think I could get by with only an iPad, but only if I could manage my music library on it, like altering tags and such. For most of my other tasks, I could get by with an iPad 99% of the time.
It does feel like the hardware is outpacing the software of iOS on iPads though.
It does feel like the hardware is outpacing the software of iOS on iPads though.
Hit the nail on the head. This is the path I would love Apple to take the iPad. iPadOS represents the future of personal computing and the laptop within Apple's lineup and has the potential to rival and replace macOS (not overnight of course but over time). Problem is, it seems like Apple is going out of its way to artificially limit iPadOS' potential in order to goose Mac sales when they should be going all in and ensuring that iPadOS replaces macOS just like in the 80's when the Mac eventually replaced the Apple II.
Let me explain the sentence for you:
“All the people” is limited by the subordinate clause “who are happily buying and using these devices as they are and not as you wish they were”
In other words, I was describing all the people who are happy with iPadOS as it is, not as you wish iPadOS was. That is a subset of All People. You clearly are not included in that group, nor are that tiny minority who agree with you.
Again, I specifically was not speaking for you, despite your constantly saying I am trying to do so.
”And yet, people do” what? Apple does not think that those who share your position are a significant market. You have stated that they are wrong. If you want them to change their mind, you need to prove to them you are right that this is a significant market.
Yes, you certainly have.
Yes, Apple’s M1 is Turing complete, and so, given enough time and resources, can do most everything. Apple could develop an emulator for X86_64 instructions and then develop a Windows API compatible OS for the platform. They could also make it run Nintendo 64 ROM. That they do not do so is limiting the power of the M1 intentionally. I do not, nor have I ever denied that. What I have said is that Apple has produced a system that the vast majority of its users like as it is and that they should continue down the path they are, improving it as they have been, but not to make it run macOS.
Honestly, I don't feel a need for macOS style windowing. What I want with an iPad is the ability to connect to an external touch display and have the iPad expand its desktop, both for display and interactivity. A larger one for artistic purposes would be good too.