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Mark Gurman: Apple Exploring iPads With Larger Displays
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That get to the chase here what you mean is you really want is laptop, 2 in 1 laptop or convertible that has touch screen. I have answer go with windows they have that. 
Steve Jobs was very not for all this and very anti Microsoft surface. It not a tablet and it is not laptop it is nothing. He was very anti Microsoft surface tablets.
Well it is a tablet that it is running full desktop OS and full desktop apps , it lacks touch user friendly interface like the iPadOS and the mobile apps selection are worse than android. Well Windows 11 looks much more touch user friendly on paper and in the demo videos that us see how it really plays out. Most people that buy a Microsoft surface use it as laptop not a tablet. Steve Jobs was very not for all this way of going about this.
If you get screen that big it not a tablet. The tablet where a device you hold in one hand on the go or in bed. In one hand that is light like paper not book.
Well sure laptops are very mobile friendly now days and are very light weight now days like the MacBook air and Dell XPS 13 inch but it still got dam keyboard in the way and the screen is bigger. The tablets are more mobile friendly than laptops no matter how thin they make it.
Laptops you put on your lap or the table and you do your work there. Well tablets you hold with one hand sitting on the couch, laying in bed, walking and moving around.
After Steve Jobs Apple has lost its vision we have very large iPad product line trying to grab every price points now and different sizes. We have pro phones and pro this and pro that.
And Apple that sorta of going down a Microsoft path but not going all way and stuck some where in the middle.
The company has no vision where it wants to see the iPad in 5 years from now. They are just copying players of Microsoft and other companies now for more profits.
If I'm going to get 13 inch tablet with a keyboard I would just get MacBook air as it is not tablet any more no matter how good Apple makes iPadOS. Even if iPadOS is million times better now or anyone OS. If you must really have both worlds get MacBook air and $320 iPad to do 90% what you need the 10% on pro device. If $320 iPad is too much get used one two or three years old and just get MacBook air or MacBook pro to do the pro work on.
Steve Jobs was very not for all this and very anti Microsoft surface. It not a tablet and it is not laptop it is nothing. He was very anti Microsoft surface tablets.
Well it is a tablet that it is running full desktop OS and full desktop apps , it lacks touch user friendly interface like the iPadOS and the mobile apps selection are worse than android. Well Windows 11 looks much more touch user friendly on paper and in the demo videos that us see how it really plays out. Most people that buy a Microsoft surface use it as laptop not a tablet. Steve Jobs was very not for all this way of going about this.
If you get screen that big it not a tablet. The tablet where a device you hold in one hand on the go or in bed. In one hand that is light like paper not book.
Well sure laptops are very mobile friendly now days and are very light weight now days like the MacBook air and Dell XPS 13 inch but it still got dam keyboard in the way and the screen is bigger. The tablets are more mobile friendly than laptops no matter how thin they make it.
Laptops you put on your lap or the table and you do your work there. Well tablets you hold with one hand sitting on the couch, laying in bed, walking and moving around.
After Steve Jobs Apple has lost its vision we have very large iPad product line trying to grab every price points now and different sizes. We have pro phones and pro this and pro that.
And Apple that sorta of going down a Microsoft path but not going all way and stuck some where in the middle.
The company has no vision where it wants to see the iPad in 5 years from now. They are just copying players of Microsoft and other companies now for more profits.
If I'm going to get 13 inch tablet with a keyboard I would just get MacBook air as it is not tablet any more no matter how good Apple makes iPadOS. Even if iPadOS is million times better now or anyone OS. If you must really have both worlds get MacBook air and $320 iPad to do 90% what you need the 10% on pro device. If $320 iPad is too much get used one two or three years old and just get MacBook air or MacBook pro to do the pro work on.
That quote doesn't stop complainants, not a fact. Clearly, many people dont agree on that.
they can, afaik, put new GUI to it that complements the touch interface
I totally forgot about this, whatever happened to it? did it succeed or flop?
Define intended when iPadOS limit the hardware performance while OS itself is limiting iPad Pro? Apple kept claiming that iPad can replace laptop and yet it's never did. It's Apple to blame for saying that.
You seem to love moving goal posts. I have acknowledged many times that you represent a small group of people who are very loud on here and on tech YouTube. However, your original statement to which I was responding was to show that Apple did not support your position, which all those quotes and their actual market behavior demonstrates. (Again, unless you have done something about which we do not know that has made Apple so hate you that even though they know you are right, they are not going to do what you want. I am pretty sure that is not the case.)
Fortunately, the vast majority of potential customers don’t need some sort of productivity device.
Fortunately, the vast majority of potential customers don’t need anything more than YouTube.
All the people happily buying and using these devices as they are, not as you wish they were.
Apple says that iPads replace laptops for many users. It did for both me and my BF, as well as many others. Just as Apple said it would. I no longer have a MacBook Pro, and my BF no longer uses his 99% of the time.
For millions of folks, it already has. Apple sells more iPads than HP is selling laptops.
All does NOT represent all people. You are making a wrong statement.
And Apple failed to prove it.
And yet, the market share of Windows still higher than iPadOS. iPadOS is just another iOS. Nothing more.For millions of folks, it already has. Apple sells more iPads than HP is selling laptops.
Another iOS that’s currently outselling Windows laptops
. Acer, Dell and HP WISH they could sell as many laptops as Apple sells iPads.No proofs, no thanks.Another iOS that’s currently outselling Windows laptops
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Please show me anywhere that I said “all people”. You have once again moved the goal posts, as you seem to do every time.
Apple does not have to prove anything to you. You want them to change their behavior, you need to prove something to them.
That is true. It is also higher than that of macOS. Just so I am clear, is it your argument that if Apple just released macOS for the iPad, they would overtake Windows in market share? If not, can you explain your point? Microsoft tried to sell tablets for a long time and still does not have significant share. That is simply because they wanted a laptop/tablet blend and the bulk of customers do not want that (despite what you wish were the case).
"All the people happily buying and using these devices as they are, not as you wish they were." There you go. You dont speak for us.
And yet, people do.
I said the same thing over and over again. iPadOS is limiting the power of M1 intentionally. Why do you deny the fact for?
No, that’s just like saying that Windows users, another group that specifically chose AGAINST macOS, might be happier with a more Mac like experience. Mac users just can’t believe that there are people in the world that don’t prefer the Mac.
Did I say “sell more than PC?” Read carefully.No proofs, no thanks.
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What's stupid is:
"Oh let's make iPad so much like the Mac that it's almost like buying a Mac minus the keyboard and mouse. Then require the user to buy a magic keyboard to use it like a Mac!!!!!! MORE MONEY FOR APPLE!"
That is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
That's your stupid idea. MS's Surface is doing well. Why do you even think that way? Cant innovate more my ass?
But you can run fart apps at 120hz with full HDR! What more could a pro user possibly want?